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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 01:11 PM
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A Word About The Weather and Survival
Only After The Last Tree Has Been Cut Down,
Only after The Last River Has Been Poisoned,
Only after The Last Fish Has Been Caught,
Only Then Will You Find That Money Cannot Be Eaten.
- Cree Indian Prophecy

- Industrialism is always a cataclysmic process, destroying the past, roiling the present, making the future uncertain.

- "Only a people serving an apprenticeship to nature can be trusted with machines."

- Politically, resistance to industrialism must force the viability of industrial society into public consciousness and debate.

- Philosophically, resistance to industrialism must be embedded in an analysis--an ideology, perhaps--that is morally informed, carefully articulated and widely shared.

- Anthropocentrism must be opposed by the principle of biocentrism and the spiritual identification of the human with all living species and systems.

- Globalism must be opposed by the empowerment of the coherent bioregion and small community.

- Industrial capitalism must be opposed by an ecological and sustainable economy built upon accommodation and commitment to the earth.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 01:16 PM
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1. We are so behind the curve
in terms of how we operate on this planet. I surely wonder what things will look like 500 years from now .
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 01:32 PM
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2. Native American tribes would calclute enviromental impact...
... they would ask how the enviroment would be impacted for many generations ahead before they would decisions. We should follow their example, if we still have time that is.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 01:51 PM
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3. Seven generations
I believe this was the number that they used.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:24 PM
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4. Yes
Among those relict tribal peoples who seem to live at peace with their world, who feel themselves to be guests rather than masters, the ontogeny of the individual has some characteristic features. I conjecture that their ontogeny is healthier than ours (for which I will be seen as sentimental and romantic) and that it may be considered a standard from which we have deviated. Their way of life is the one to which our ontogeny has been fitted by natural selection, fostering cooperation, leadership, a calendar of mental growth, and the study of a mysterious and beautiful world where the clues to the meaning of life were embodied in natural things, where everyday life was inextricable from spiritual significance and encounter, and where the members of the group celebrated individual stages and passages as ritual participation in the first creation.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:46 PM
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10. Ho Metaquiatsun!
My husband is a pipe carrier in the Lakota tradition, and I have participated in many different ceremonies. It is a different outlook and a different mindset. All things are sacred--if the corporations believed that, and acted upon it.....
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:45 PM
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5. Yep, and my 5 mo. old baby grandson,
is the 7th generation in my family!(since his Indian Ancestor walked the earth) DC
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:33 PM
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8. Supposedly, US too:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:49 PM
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6. Is it too late already for the US. to do anything productive about global warming or
have we already reached the point of no return??
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 04:51 PM
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7. Something can always be done.
But the longer we delay, the worse the problem will become. And at some point, we may tip the climate over into either an ice age or a full-blown hothouse. I don't know if anyone knows how we would recover the climate from that, to retrieve our current climactic optimum.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:13 PM
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9. I'll take my chances with an ice age... the air is cleaner... n/t
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:50 PM
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11. Beautiful thoughts and statements... Only the Cree Indian
Prophesy and one other are in quotes... are these your statements? Curious...
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