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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:25 PM
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If we have equal justice under the law, how can they deny a ex-rep's pension
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 02:26 PM by RGBolen
due to a felony without denying a retired autoworker's or anyone's pension payments if they are convicted of a felony?


on edit: This isn't being done, but there are people calling for it to be done.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:27 PM
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1. Doesn't it have something to do with criminal activity
that has taken place during the person in question's work responsibilities? Also, the representative's job is to represent the public. Diverting taxpayer funds to enrich oneself while holding public office should be punishable by revocation of the pension.

IMHO, YMMV,
Julie
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:28 PM
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2. The rules.
Different rules apply to different situations.
For instance...a criminal offense might not hinder you from one job...but will definitely hinder you to another.
I have no problem with it.
Our Reps are supposed to be the ones making the laws, not breaking them.
If anyone, they should be intimately familiar with them.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:29 PM
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3. But they only deny it if the ex-rep is convicted of something they did in office
isn't it?

If you get your ass fired for cause and you don't have a vested retirement plan I think you are essentially cut off I think you do lose the benefits.

Anyway as it stands companies are denying pensions and benefit payments to honest people with no convictions.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:31 PM
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4. You lose non-vested funds at any termination of employer relationship
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:35 PM
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6. Yes, although you the possibility of a severance package may
exist. Hell, they exit to the tune of $231 million if you run to ruin a home and building supply company.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:31 PM
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5. The taxpayers do not pay an autoworker's pension.
If you want felony auto workers to lose their pensions then have the UAW write it into the contract language. No big deal. Denying a congresscritter his pension is a job contract issue, not a courts/criminal justice issue. IMHO.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:45 PM
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7. My guess is that IF an autoworker is convicted of a felony against
his employer, he probably wouldn't get his pension either. Remember, the congressmen we're talking about were convicted of crimes while they held office!!!!
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:50 PM
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8. Actually
if the felony against the automaker occurs post retirement they WOULD keep their pension. However, any employee who gets themselves fired (felony or not) prior to retirement would lose their retirement benefits and have to beg the UAW to help them appeal. Per the Autoworker's UAW contract.
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