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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:34 PM
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Heritage Foundation-- Social Security is an "unsustainable entitlement"
Beware any right-wing efforts to balance the budget!


January 5, 2007
Bush's Call For Fiscal Restraint: Entitlement Control is the Key
by Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D.


<snip>

While the goal of balancing the budget in five years has a popular ring to it, the real threat to the economy and families is not the deficit but the relentless projected rise in future spending—driven by entitlements—and taxes rising as a percent of the national paycheck. Today’s deficit as a percent of gross domestic product (GDP) is not especially high by historical or international standards, nor is there convincing evidence that such deficits are economically harmful.

The real problem is the tsunami of retirement spending about to engulf us as the Baby Boomers begin to retire over the next few years. The cost of Medicare and Social Security will surge from about 7 percent of GDP today to almost 10 percent by 2020 and to 14 percent of the entire economy by 2050, when today’s college students retire.

That is why the President’s call for confronting these unsustainable entitlements is so important. He and Congress must begin to take action now, before the problem gets worse.

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The President should, in any case, press members of both parties to work with him to design a plan to reform and curb entitlements. He can also draw more attention to the entitlement problem by insisting on changes in the budget process to highlight unfunded obligations and to force Congress to reduce those obligations as part of the annual budget cycle.

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http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm1298.cfm



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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:37 PM
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1. Social Security--"Hey Heritage Foundation, you can just suck it!" n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:38 PM
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2. Me: vast, inherited wealth like that which Heritage Foundation members have...
...is an unsustainable entitlement.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:38 PM
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3. Well, not if we end the inheritance of vast fortunes.
That should make it very secure, indeed.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:38 PM
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4. Let's start by trimming some other entitlements
Like the subsidies to the oil companies, and the free pass given the extraction industries for their royalty payments over the last six years. I'll bet the Treasury gets all kinds of money if the financial beneficiaries of the Iraq war and six years of the Bush administration were asked to shoulder their fair share of the tax burden.

By the way, Stuart Butler, how are your tax returns looking? Didn't overstate your deductions or understate your income in any way lately, did you?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:19 PM
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29. yes, and I'd love to trim out
the cost of war in Iraq.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:39 PM
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5. No. Half a trillion a year to the Military/Industrial complex is an unsustainable entitlement.
$40 Billion a year (not including costs of incarceration) so that the DEA can bust pot smoking cancer grannies is an "unsustainable entitlement".

Feh.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:40 PM
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6. OK -
then stop taking all that money out of my paycheck! I'll keep it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:41 PM
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7. heritage foundation credibility - clearly and totally unsustainable
a bunch of lunatic right wing morons who have no concept of anything but their own bottom line. I'm so fucking happy that the patriots at the heritage foundation are concerned with the relentless rise in spending.

"Curb entitlements?" right wing lunacy. Lets just kill everyone over the age of 65.

"Entitlement problem?" - fiction in the minds of right wing jerkoffs who care nought for our country.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:41 PM
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8. Ah yes the Nazi Heritage Foundation...
Founded by a nazis (Coors) and leading employer of nazis, and nazi sympathizers, for over 40 years now. At least they are consistent.:grr:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:43 PM
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9. Hey, the Heritage Foundation can opt out and there will be more
for the rest of us.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:45 PM
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10. The Heritage Foundation also sold us the war in Iraq.
Come on, guys. Your credibility is shot to hell and back. We all know your just a corporate whore front.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:45 PM
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11. Yes, and they also think they have a "Victory Plan for Iraq"
Unsustainable enthusiasm and delusion reigns over there ...
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:46 PM
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12. That pretty much proves it isn't. Those crackpots are completely full of shit. - n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:46 PM
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13. WHAT BULLSHIT!!! Just raise the FICA tax limit
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 03:47 PM by LSK
Just raise the FICA tax limit beyond 85k or whatever it is.

But but but we cant fucking tax rich people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:51 PM
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17. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!
First, get the overpayments out of the greedy hands of Congress. Half our payroll taxes are being ROBBED. Increasing the revenues would only boost that to 50% or beyond.

Then, after Congress has been deprived of a way to fudge their books on the backs of the poorest, either remove the cap, raise it to a reasonable level, or institute a sliding scale that would sock the rich for what they've robbed over the last 26 years.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:56 PM
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21. you can do both at the same time
But you are right, we need that "lockbox".
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:47 PM
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14. Ummm maybe the waging of war for no legally justified reason, at the whim of an unelected President
is the real "unsustainable entitlement" program? If one of these must end, then I vote for the end of klepto-petro Chimperalism.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:48 PM
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15. Try ending it, geniuses, and have your mother in law
move in with you. In fact, have both sets of parents move in. You can turn your formal dining room into one bedroom and the family room into the other. You'll get used to the crowding and balancing trays on your knees for holiday dinners.

Plus, expect the true cost of tax cuts to the billionaires to become painfully obvious when you no longer have 40% of every worker's retirement insurance premium robbed to pad the revenue stream.

Cripes, these people are so fucking stupid they never cease to amaze me.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:55 PM
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20. The people floating this BS aren't stupid... but those that listen are.
The greedy bastards at HF are just herding the idiots around to wherever they want them to go.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:51 PM
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16. The Iraq War money would have sustained it. Ironic, eh? nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:17 PM
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28. Yea, but that was needed so we could fight the A-rabs over there instead of here
Right wing morons never cease to amaze me.
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bpj1962 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:52 PM
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18. Entitlement
Social Security is insurance. It is not an entitlement. WTF is this guy talking about. Can we help it if the baby boomer generation which by the way was the first generation to truly contribute to Social Security for their entire working life wishes to draw on it. If Bush hadn't spent the budget surplus on tax cuts for the rich or if he raised the cap from $95,000.00 to $135,000.00 we wouldn't be having this conversation. Even though I have other retirement plans in place I damn well expect to be able to collect Social Security when I retire in 20 years. I have contributed to the system since I was 16. That is not a sense of entitlement it is an expectation that a promise made to me is kept.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:52 PM
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19. I'd like to see a few of the people with a huge sense of entitlement
to their wealth lose some of it. You know all these people who talk like this are comfortable.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 04:19 PM
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22. Gee, it's a shame W didn't consider this before slashing tax revenues and starting perpetual wars of
a pre-emptive nature.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 04:24 PM
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23. Entitlement program
That term just chaps my ass. I bet the use of it to refer to SS and social services was Newt's idea.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:10 PM
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24. We're "entitled" to our SS money
because we've been paying through the &%$ all these years.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:14 PM
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26. If I make it to 65
I had better have that damned money. Especially now that I am self employed. Only 19 years to go.

Entitlement grrrrrr.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:13 PM
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25. It would be perfectly sustainable if President Gore had been rightfully inaugurated
The Lockbox made a funny SNL skit but it's not all that funny anymore.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:16 PM
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27. Entitlement??? We have all been paying into it for years
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:35 PM
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30. social security is a trust...not entitlement
This isn't something that you get cause your daddy's rich and your momma's good looking. We paid into this fund our entire working lives. :grr:
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