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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:45 PM
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Could you marry or have a partner who is a creationist? This lady did.
It's kid of a silly story that I found on MSNBC..... why? because she meets the dudes family and it's never brought up. I wanted to read about a mash potato slinging food fight brought on by a debate at the dinner table.

Jan. 4, 2007 - It was only a little while after our first lunch as a married couple that my new husband got a test of faith. It came from my grandmother, who said that she didn’t know how anyone intelligent could be a creationist. Not that I could blame her. Before I met my husband, Rob, I would have laughed and agreed with her. This time, though, I glanced at my new husband, inwardly sighed, and wondered how he’d respond. With grace, as it turned out. “I’m a creationist,” he calmly said. Grandma quickly changed the topic.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16473854/site/newsweek/page/2/
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:46 PM
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1. I almost did, am glad I didn't
The problem wasn't so much our differences in beliefs. In a nutshell, the older of her two daughters is a bitch from Hell.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:48 PM
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2. Love is so unpredictable. But it's hard to see partnering w/someone so wilfully blind
Unless they're wild unhinged sex monkeys. I'd compromise my principles for great sex, I guess.
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Inkyfuzzbottom Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:51 PM
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3. NOPE...
Couldn't do it. NO WAY. I wouldn't be able to tolerate being with someone that stupid.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:54 PM
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4. MC Stephen Hawking has something to say about this (explicit lyrics)

"Fuck the Creationists" from the CD "A Brief History of Rhyme"

(In the computer voice popularized by Stephen Hawking)

Trash Talk:
Ah yeah, here we go again!
Damn! This is some funky shit that I be laying down on your ass.
This one goes out to all my homey's working in the field of
evolutionary science.
Check it!

Verse 1:
Fuck the damn creationists, those bunch of dumb-ass bitches,
every time I think of them my trigger finger itches.
They want to have their bullshit, taught in public class,
Stephen J. Gould should put his foot right up their ass.
Noah and his ark, Adam and his Eve,
straight up fairy stories even children don't believe.
I'm not saying there's no god, that's not for me to say,
all I'm saying is the Earth was not made in a day.

Chorus:
Fuck, fuck, fuck,
fuck the Creationists.

Trash Talk:
Break it down.
Ah damn, this is a funky jam!
I'm about ready to kick this bitch back in.
Check it.

Verse 2:
Fuck the damn creationists I say it with authority,
because kicking their punk asses be me paramount priority.
Them wack-ass bitches say, "evolution's just a theory",
they best step off, them brainless fools, I'll give them cause to fear me.
The cosmos is expanding every second, every day,
but their minds are shrinking as they close their eyes and pray.
They call their bullshit science like the word could give them cred,
if them bitches be scientists then cap me in the head.

Chorus

Trash Talk:
Bass!
Bring that shit in!
Ah yeah, that's right, fuck them all motherfuckers.
Fucking punk ass creationists trying to set scientific thought back 400 years.
Fuck that!
If them superstitious motherfuckers want to have that kind of party,
I'm going to put my dick in the mashed potatoes.
Fucking creationists.
Fuck them.

http://www.mchawking.com/
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:01 PM
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5. Well, my first husband's family were very conservative republicans
and accepted me like a daughter they never had. I LOVED them. When he and I parted they turned on me like rabid dogs. I was shocked and totally blown away. I was not like their son and I (as was the reality..not my husband and I) had a terrible break up .. we had no kids .. I was not seeking any type of money from him. He was cheating on me and we seperated and got a divorce. It was as if I had MURDERED him or something? Very strange!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:03 PM
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6. I read that this morning and thought, "um, sure. Until you have kids."
Then we'll see what sort of problems you have with him and his family. :rofl:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:09 PM
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7. Good point
Wait until Jr. hits his first science class.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:11 PM
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8. Nah--I believe in datign within my own species. (eom)
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:01 PM
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9. Ew, no!
I went out with this guy once.


He made me cringe when the subject came up months after we'd been going out. He actually said stupid things like, "A bear's not just gonna have a skunk baby out of the blue", and then laugh derisively.

I wanted to puke at first, but instead, wasted hours of my time trying to explain evolutionary theory to him. I ended up leaving and :banghead:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:05 PM
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10. Mel Gibson states quite clearly that his wife is Hell bound.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:07 PM
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11. While Love may be blind, surely She is not stupid, too?
Take it from this old married lady - respect is just as much an ingredient for a successful marriage as love. How can you respect someone who believes a lie about something so important in the face of facts? And that goes for his side, too - how can he respect someone who doesn't believe that God created the universe as described in (take your pick of the two stories in) Genesis?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:30 PM
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16. love is not necessarily about respect
quite often it's about passion, sex, chemistry
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:31 PM
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17. I did not say it was
I said respect in equal proportion to love is necessary to a successful long-term marriage. I apologize if my meaning was unclear.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:13 PM
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12. I couldn't be with someone who believes I'm going to hell.
No freaking way. I have enough of that in my family. It would take a really special kind of monotheist for me to be compatible with, and frankly I just don't see it happening.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:29 PM
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15. hopefully this is not one and the same. Im a "creationist" and am also
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 07:31 PM by faithnotgreed
a member of the green party
so im not all into who is going where as its not my call nor my interest or business to make that statement for anyone
its all so beside the point anyway and often incredibly hypocritical

i also certainly understand not wanting to be with someone who condemns you

just to point out that not everyone who believes in certain things (creationism) is a fundamentalist or judge
thanks for listening
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:26 PM
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13. No
I know a couple who are. We've known them for years. What I've found is that although I like and respect certain things they do (He's a pastor for mostly poor folks and she's a nurse practitioner who works in a under served population)The opinions and differences as too great.

In the name of civility, we avoid certain topics. In the name of civility, we don't socialize much. She actually was given permission during her pursuit of her nursing degree to do a biology paper from a creationist perspective.

They are "nice" people to be around. He's a great mechanic, quit working for Sears because he found they had unethical business practices.

I'm just of the opinion you have to be (I want to say crazy) deluded to believe that way. I also believe that if you are a believer in a creator God (I'm not) to limit such a being in that way is very illogical, and kind of strange really.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:28 PM
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14. NOOOOOOooooooooo!
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 07:28 PM by Oregonian
:o
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:32 PM
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18. No. They're too stupid
Irrational, closed-minded, whatever. Creationism usually goes hand in hand with religious fundamentalism, which is another deal-breaker for me.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:11 PM
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19. Hubby actually tested me on that on our first date.
We met at an evangelical college, and he was a bit worried that I was a creationist. So, for our first date, he took me to a creationist seminar downtown (Dr. Ham--total blithering idiot and quite the showman). The real date was afterwards when he took me to see a movie, but he wanted to see if I would agree with any of it. We sat in the back and ripped the whole thing apart, laughing our butts off. (It was soooo bad, much worse than I thought it would be.)

If you're concerned, you should test the person first. ;)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:53 PM
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20. Never ever, no way. I can't even really talk to creationists.
Within about 20 seconds of searching you'll find parts of the Bible which contradict each other. There is no logical way to take the thing literally whatsoever.

Not to mention carbon-dating, dinosaurs, astronomical observation, ruins of ancient civilizations and hundreds of other pieces of evidence which PROVE (yes, that's right Freepers, PROVE) that the Earth is far older than 6,000 years.

I met this creationist girl at work once. She grew up with this Christian family in Arizona in a very sheltered environment. I asked "Do you believe the Earth is really 6,000 years old?" She's like "It is." I'm like "What about dinosaurs?" She responded "No, that's all lies."

Religion can be a wonderful thing and a positive force in people's lives. But when you get to this level of devotion, where you dismiss decades of scientific studies in multiple fields as "lies", then you're getting into a cult, plain and simple. Donald Johanson didn't spend 40 years devoting his life to anthropology for lies.

One day I hope all individuals, religious and secular, will embrace open-mindedness, science and logic. Thankfully it seems that we're slowly but surely moving towards that goal.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:54 PM
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21. Good lord.
No, I couldn't.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:57 PM
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22. I reckon she'll live to regret it
although you never know- it takes all types.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:00 PM
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23. ha! my husband finds no conflict between evolution & creation...
says the one compliments the other :rofl:
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