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Egalitariat
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Sat Jan-06-07 10:39 PM Original message |
Is Cindy Sheehan attempting to become a martyr? |
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mmonk
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Sat Jan-06-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. More like victim and conscience rather than a Martyr. |
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Gregorian
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. I have thought that about Bush. |
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17yroldtwins
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Only Those Who Have Lost a Child Can Know |
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WiseButAngrySara
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. That was good. I noticed you emphasized TWICE ..and your |
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bobbolink
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Welcome to DU! |
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Stephanie
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Sun Jan-07-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Exactly right. |
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Lone_Star_Dem
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. You're onto her |
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wtmusic
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. No. |
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Gatchaman
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I don't think Casey would want her to destroy herself |
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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paulk
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
72. what? everyone who doesn't agree with your way of |
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Richard Steele
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Please consider your concerns "duly noted". |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
77. Duly noted by whom? |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. The "shrill voice of irrationality"? |
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mmonk
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. What's irrational is the Iraq war, the neocon dream of |
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leftchick
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Sun Jan-07-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. apparently you knew Casey? |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
63. But Cindy is neither of those. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Yet, she's still in the corporate news, she's still driving the Faux aireheads crazy and she's doing... |
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dogday
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. Shrill, that is a word I hear the right |
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Libby2
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Mon Jan-08-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
92. Yep, it sure is. |
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iamthebandfanman
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
98. n/t |
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Reterr
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. "She does more to paint the anti-war movement as a bunch of kooks " |
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uppityperson
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. May be actively trying, may be not actively trying & doesn't care |
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Lone_Star_Dem
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Or she could actually care that much about her message? |
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uppityperson
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That is what I meant but didn't express right in first bit |
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Jim__
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. If we were all doing what she's doing, this war would end. |
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noamnety
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. Have you ever asked that question about a man? (nt) |
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OutNow
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Wrong Question |
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Jcrowley
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Sat Jan-06-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Way to go |
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question everything
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Some of us depend on regular paychecks |
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silverojo
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Sun Jan-07-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Exactly. |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. That's a good one |
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nini
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
101. That's not an excuse.. it's reality |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. What funding? |
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nini
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #107 |
138. She's got to be getting money from somewhere |
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BleedingHeartPatriot
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Tue Jan-09-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. The Gold Star Families support her, for one. However, I hardly see her doing a four star tour. |
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OutNow
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Sun Jan-07-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
55. Oh yes, regular paychecks |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
115. Wow can I nominate a post? |
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nini
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
140. There's a difference between protesting full time and part time |
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WiseButAngrySara
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Right Answer. ....n/t |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Thank you, OutNow. |
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Stephanie
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Sun Jan-07-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Why can't we recommend a single reply to an OP? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
108. Amen!! |
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Tsiyu
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
16. No. Her son and all the others killed in this unjust war are the martyrs |
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Sun Jan-07-07 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
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CatWoman
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Sun Jan-07-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. why don't you just fire up the bonfire |
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AZBlue
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Truth hurts, huh? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. When you go after Cindy, you go after the Gold Star Families, which is the organization |
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AZBlue
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Sun Jan-07-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Is she their elected leader/representative/poster child? I wasn't aware of that. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot
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Sun Jan-07-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. . |
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BleedingHeartPatriot
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Sun Jan-07-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Here's a link to their website. All will be illuminated. |
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AZBlue
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That's not the official Gold Star website. As you well know. |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
116. What are you talking about? |
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AZBlue
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. American Gold Star Mothers, Inc was formed in 1928 - without Cindy Sheehan (imagine that) |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. That's not the organization we were talking about |
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AZBlue
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. Exactly my point |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I keep asking if a Freeper mother who'd given the same sacrifice |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
113. If she spoke out against the war, yes she would |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
111. She founded GSFP |
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nam78_two
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Truth?? |
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CatWoman
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Sun Jan-07-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. no dear; quite the contrary |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-07-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. What is she trying to "make herself out to be" |
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AZBlue
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Because she's paying more attention to her own press now than her supposed cause. |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-07-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. How the hell do you know that? |
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nam78_two
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Wow I wish I had the power to read minds too |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
118. WTF??? |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. delete |
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leftchick
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. watch it |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. My New Year resolution was to really try to 'do no harm'. |
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ScreamingMeemie
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Sun Jan-07-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Thank you, Dr. Freud. |
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JackBeck
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Sun Jan-07-07 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. Cindy is doing an excellent job at making an example of how we should be standing up to power. |
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midnight
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Sun Jan-07-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. I guess caring about others, and their futures is not acceptable. |
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earth mom
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Sun Jan-07-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. How is doing the right thing being a martyr? |
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Alamom
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. No truer words*........ Thank you & so many others for defending |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. No, she's trying to end a war. |
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dogday
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. And she won't stop until the war is over |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I get it. |
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dogday
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I didn't mean you... |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-07-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yep. |
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conscious evolution
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Sun Jan-07-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. Cindy speaks for me |
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Sun Jan-07-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. I think she's just acting without fear of becoming one. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
62. I don't think she's specifically trying to go there |
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SteveC
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Poor Cindy |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. agree and disagree |
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
102. I've thought that too |
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
121. So you don't know enough about her to know if she has other kids |
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Different point of view |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I'm not sure I get you |
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. How was the anti-war movement "war-like"? |
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Mon Jan-08-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. Are you blaming Cindy for her son's death? |
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dogday
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. As the mother of a Soldier who just recently |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
119. Oh another keyboard commando who doesn't know Cindy |
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. Cindy Sheehan is acting as if we have a participatory democracy, a right to participate |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Cindy Sheehan is acting as if we have a participatory democracy, a right to participate |
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. My reply was to the OP, not your post. (if she was "avoiding," she would not be doing what she is) |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. wrong...if she was "avoiding," she would not be doing what she is |
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omega minimo
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. I asked her. |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I asked her |
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omega minimo
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Mad spirit |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. ...and that means? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
122. Ineffective? |
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Tue Jan-09-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #122 |
134. I don't think most of us have issues with that... |
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
117. Are you a government psychologist? |
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Madspirit
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Tue Jan-09-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #117 |
137. Are you a government psychologist? |
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Tue Jan-09-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Jeezzy wheezy, I didn't accuse you of anything.... |
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Shame about what's happened to the 1st amendment. |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. The first amendment... |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
71. I was looking for an interview where I remember her saying that she revitalized the peace movement |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Unprincipled Voting...jeez |
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
78. She doesn't speak for me |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I don't think she's unstable |
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noonwitch
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Mon Jan-08-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. LOL! |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. I think so too. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
124. Do you think Daniel Ellsberg is unstable too? |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. I said I DIDN'T think she was unstable. DIDN'T. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Oops yes I guess so. |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. No worries |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. She speaks for me |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. There's nothing wrong with |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-08-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Case in point: Do you think Bill Clinton killed more Iraqis with his policies than Bush has? |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. No, I don't agree with her about this at all. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
110. Deleted message |
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #110 |
128. Why don't you say what you're implying. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. They're criminal activities, and when people want to use something against you |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Your view of the 60s/70s is simplistic. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
96. What's wrong with becoming a martyr? If you've got the nerve for it more power to you |
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Madspirit
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. What's wrong with becoming a martyr? If you've got the nerve for it more power to you |
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. "she's in Cuba (I'm assuming illegally)." |
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Cameron27
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
141. This is confusing. |
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
103. "Ilegally in Cuba". Now that has alot of meaning in itself. |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Then we should expect that she'll support the efforts of |
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happydreams
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. dissidents or seditionists? Any group of people |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. According to the news story |
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happydreams
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. research it back a little further and tell me what you find. |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. In Oct. 2005, The Ladies in White |
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. hee, hee. Now why doesn't the "humanrightistsfirst" group |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Why don't you check and see |
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happydreams
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Tue Jan-09-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #125 |
142. Looks like the righties have taken over the Sakharov |
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Cameron27
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Cuba is not the only country in their website. |
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Wed Jan-10-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #126 |
148. Pardon my asking but what branch of the Intelligence Community |
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Tue Jan-09-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #106 |
133. You may remember recently reading the "dissidents" were outed recently |
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Cameron27
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Tue Jan-09-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. I responded to this in the GDP thread. |
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Cameron27
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Tue Jan-09-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. Amnesty International |
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Judi Lynn
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Tue Jan-09-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. I responded to this in the GD.P section: |
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Cameron27
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Tue Jan-09-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I know. |
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happydreams
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Wed Jan-10-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Damned interersting stuff Judi. Thanks for all the hard work. |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-11-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. You're right: many people have commented on their strange silence |
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Thu Jan-11-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #106 |
150. There's a new letter Cindy Sheehan has written in response to the lie, and propaganda ploy |
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Rex
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
104. I think she simply doesn't care about laws when it comes to |
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. No kidding. Especially when the people charging her are the ones |
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