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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:42 AM
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Web site aims to post government secrets: wikileaks.org
This looks like something to keep an eye on. It could become very interesting. It may even warrant a DU forum or front page link if it gets off the ground.

There's an article about it here: http://federaltimes.com/index.php?S=2460843
A new Web site that aims to encourage large-scale leaking of confidential government documents by allowing anonymous disclosure could launch as early as next month.

Beneath a quotation from famed Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg, www.Wikileaks.org says it seeks to increase government transparency around the world by using “an uncensorable version of Wikipedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis.”

Founded by a group that includes technologists and Chinese dissidents, Wikileaks would promote democracy and prevent corruption, and is aimed primarily at oppressive foreign regimes, according to organizers. But the site says it also wants “to be of service to those in the West who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own government and corporations.”

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The group says it has already received more than 1 million documents. De Jong said none of those come directly from Western governments, but documents sent from the United States to other states are included. The site uses various cryptographic technologies to allow anonymity while maintaining Wikpedia’s easy use, she said.


Here's the actual site: http://www.wikileaks.org/index.html

WikiLeaks is developing an uncensorable version of WikiPedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis. Our primary targets are highly oppressive regimes in China, Russia, central eurasia, the middle east and sub-saharan Africa, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own governments and corporations. We aim for maximum political impact; this means our interface is identical to Wikipedia and usable by non-technical people. We have received over 1.1 million documents so far. We plan to numerically eclipse the content the english wikipedia with leaked documents.

Open government is strongly correlated to quality of life. Open government answers injustice rather than causing it (plans which cause injustice are revealed and opposed before implementation). Open government exposes, and so corrects, corruption. Historically, the most resilient form of open government is one where leaking and publication is easy. Public leaking, being an act of ethical defection to the majority, is by its nature a democratising force.

Hence a system enables everyone to leak safely to a ready audience is the most cost effective means of promoting good government -- in health and medicine, in food supply, in human rights, in arms controls and democratic institutions.

The world has enough food. It has enough medicine. It has enough scientific research and invention. We know how to prevent malaria --- we've known for over 50 years. We know how to halt HIV. We know how to put down our guns. It can be peaceful, just and healthy; all it needs is good governance. Politicians are not capable of it. We have to engineer it.


The FAQ is here: http://www.wikileaks.org/faq.html
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:44 AM
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1. No wonder the gubmint wants to be able to track every web page you visit! NT
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:56 AM
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2. Just use Tor.
http://tor.eff.org/

It's a little slow for most browsing but it is useful for when you feel the need to browse or post anonymously.

There's even a Firefox extension to easily turn it on and off. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2275/
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 04:41 PM
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11. thanks for the heads up on tor k&r nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 11:57 AM
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3. heh heh heh, my husband chuckles appreciatively
this may be the way to keep all governments on their toes! Truth will out!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:03 PM
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4. If you appreciate it recommend it
so more people can see this.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:14 PM
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5. just did
thanks for the reminder
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:35 PM
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8. Thanks, I will check back
curious to see what leaks will be posted there

K&R
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:16 PM
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6. K&R
This is worth watching. Thanks.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:22 PM
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7. Funny, I was just thinking the U.S. needs a tv program to talk about
Everything that our Corporate/Government Media fails and refuses to mention on their alleged news programs.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:37 PM
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9. K&R
got it bookmarked allready.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:38 PM
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10. great post. Thanks!
I've bookmarked this site and wait for the pages to fill
:popcorn:
:patriot:
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:00 PM
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12. More
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:22 AM
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13. Hmm, interesting concept but...
How would anything be verifiable? Anonymous submissions will immediately be questioned as fabricated (especially by the people implicated).

Then, of course, there will be questions of cointellpro, conspiracies, counter-conspiracies, etc. since "Anyone can post to it, anyone can edit it"

Sounds great, but I hope this doesn't just fuel CT people like Rense into orgasmic bliss.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:10 AM
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14. You're right, there are inherent problems in such a system
It is an interesting concept though...

Pity it cannot possibly work. It would be far too vulnerable to tampering
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:16 AM
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15. Read the FAQ that I linked to.
They talk about this. Statements like "cannot possibly work" are a little strong, don't you think? Sure there will be a lot of unverifiable stuff, much of it garbage. There will also be stuff that is easily disprovable and, most importantly, stuff that is provable. Millions of people will be scrutinizing these documents, someone somewhere may have the last piece that solves some puzzle.

Deliberate governmental attempts at disinformation aren't necessarily all that bullet proof. The yellowcake documents are a good example of this. There's no reason to think that some CIA forger is any smarter than the millions of people who may scrutinize the document. Documents posted by cranks and hoaxsters would probably be even more detectable.

In any case, fake or misleading documents don't require wikileak for their dissemination. That can, and has, happened without it.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:28 PM
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16. Kick
:kick:
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