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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:54 AM
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Stupid, stupid move Nancy? Not so fast
Contrary to an Internet report, Republicans in the House of Representatives appear to have asked for a day off less than one week into the 110th Congress, RAW STORY has learned. The Democratic leadership consented, and no action is scheduled on the House floor today.

Congress will not meet today to begin the official "100 hours" agenda of the Democratic Members due to a request put in to the Democratic Leadership by Rep. John Boehner, the Republican Minority Leader in the House of Representatives.

"Mr. Boehner made this request, and in the interest of comity, Democrats granted it," a senior Democratic aide told RAW STORY.

Late Sunday afternoon, news portal operator Matt Drudge displayed a large banner headline on his Website set in capital letters which claimed, "DEM VOW ALREADY BROKEN: HOUSE SETS 4-DAY WORK WEEK." Drudge accused the Democrats of shutting down the House because of the College Football National Championship being played tonight between top teams Ohio State University and the University of Florida in Arizona.



http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/GOP_seeks_gets_day_off_in_0108.html
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:57 AM
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1. All the same
In future if Republicans ask for days off, tell them they don't have to come in if they don't want, we'll just pass everything without them
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:02 AM
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5. When they ask for another day off...
tell them to go ask Matt Sludge...

Boner's team did about as good as his party is doing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:08 AM
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9. That was my thought as well
Let them go watch a football game. Congress doesn't need them.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:57 AM
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2. Please---damned if you do...damned if you don't.
John Boehner's home state team was playing in the National Championships. If she said no to his request off, she would have looked bad...if she said yes she looks bad... It's much to do about nothin.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:01 AM
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3. I agree..
.... like one day is going to matter. If she does it every week, then I'll listen to the complaints.

I would rather Pelosi make a "concession" involving a day off than see her offer a meaningful legislative or committee concession. I think Pelosi knows what she's doing.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:02 AM
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4. And right now they will do ANYTHING to make her look bad
Even if they had to sell out their mother to do it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:09 AM
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11. Why does she have to approve of his day off?
Can't he just call in sick or something?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:52 AM
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19. At night, people, at night. Who else "needed" the DAY off in Ohio/Florida?
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 08:53 AM by WinkyDink
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:03 AM
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22. "The situation in Iraq is more important than a FOOTBALL GAME"

"Raising the minimum wage is more important than a FOOTBALL GAME".

Would Nancy really have looked so bad if she had responded like that?
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EllenZ Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:03 AM
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6. I have to disagree
Nancy is showing that she is willing to work with the minority party.

The reality of this situation is that the votes are not there and another day gives each side the chance to make more deals.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:06 AM
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7. What votes are not there?
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EllenZ Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:35 AM
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54. For one
A vote to end funding for Bush's war, forcing him to bring the troops home.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:07 AM
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8. Yeah, that's what America was clamoring for...dems working WITH the 'pubs.
More compromise from the democrats! They haven't given in to the republics enough. Great strategy to ignore the message sent by the elections that put us in power.

:eyes:

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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:14 AM
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13. Oh for crying out loud. It's one day. Why not show you are agreeable right off
the bat, on SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MATTER, so that you have it in the bank for later? For when the accusations fly that you are not being nice and bipartisan?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:08 AM
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10. Yes, I'm curious too. What votes are you talking about?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:10 AM
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12. What are you disagreeing with? and Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:20 AM
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14. You Promise
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 08:22 AM by Possumpoint
a five day work week and then give a day off for a evening college football game? Give me a break. Get to Work!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:23 AM
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15. Did you read the link
The thread, anything?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:26 AM
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16. Got any Deep Woods Off?
[]<ssssSSSSSSss ~~~~~~~~~~~~~< (doink) (OUCH)
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:48 AM
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18. I
really don't understand what you are trying to imply. Care to edify or enlarge on it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:07 AM
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23. I'd like to...
But Geez, I just can't.
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:46 AM
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17. Yeah
I read the thread and all linked thoughts to it. Sports at a level above high school are a complete waste of time, effort and money. This is especially true for baseball, basketball, football and hockey. They are big business and a recruitment tool for the colleges. Their reputations are being built on how good their teams do, not how well their graduates do.

Professional sports are worst. Spoiled, over hyped, over paid thugs (not in all cases) are paid to preform for the enjoyment of the masses. I have for years maintained that the sh$t that the players and teams get away with only happens because Congress wants joe-sixpack to focus there rather then on how little they do.

I'm well aware that I'm part of a very small minority that feels this way. I feel they should have kept their promise and taken a break in work for the game if they had to. Not take the whole day off.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:59 AM
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21. Actually, I think sports play an important tribal role
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 09:15 AM by Atman
Seriously. I was thinking about this the other day watching the end of the Pats game, and all the people going nuts after the win. Team rivalries like this are a modern form of tribalism. We're a "civilized" society now, but we're still the same animals. As such, we have certain tribal instincts, and "belonging" is very, very important to most people. If there were no large organized sporting events, all those tribal mentalities would have to align themselves with something. Case in point: the Middle East, still mired in centuries-old tribal struggles. Why? Well, the reasons are long and varied, of course, and I know I am way over-simplifying it, but I posit it is because they have no other choice. No other vent. No other way to show allegiances to anything, to show that they BELONG. It is a fundamental need, if you will (need probably isn't the right term) to belong.

In any large society -- we have 300,000,000 people here, remember -- you have to keep the masses busy. That is why jobs, families, all the group structures are so important. You have to keep the minds occupied with harmless activities, productive activities, just keep 'em busy. Again, look to the ME to see what happens when you have millions of people with nothing but time on their hands.

Anyway, this wasn't meant to be a Masters thesis, so don't go all hyper-critical on me. I'm just sayin'...I may hate organized sports (and organized religion, and organization in general! LOL!) but I'm not willing to go so far as to say they're a waste of time. They serve a purpose. They allow us to stay in touch with our tribal routes, and keep our minds off of thinking about warring against the other tribes...we play "war games" instead.

- Professor Atman, PhDU
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:13 AM
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24. The Number is 300,000,000
nm
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:15 AM
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25. Yes, it is.
You haven't filed a report with the typo police yet have you? I swear, I can do better! Please don't turn me in!

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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:20 AM
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30. If
I were to turn in anyone to the typo police, I'd have to do so from behind bars.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:21 AM
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31. LOL!
Thanks for not taking it personally...I often forget how touchy many DUers can be.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:40 AM
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37. I guess you were always the last to be picked?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:54 AM
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20. The Dems allowed the day off for the THUGs then got pummeled by them in the press.
Don't Trust The Fuckers.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:31 AM
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34. We never learn.
"Oh look you fell down trying to kick me in the balls, let me help you up".
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:19 AM
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40. Never trade with the Yankees, and never trust the Repugs.
We get screwed every time. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Steny wants to be one of the boys.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:17 AM
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26. If you read the schedule for House votes
The Republicans are also asking for the 25th and the 26th for the Republican Retreat... Seems like the Republicans are the ones who can't make it to the house to vote....

http://www.c-span.org/pdf/2007calendar.pdf
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:18 AM
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27. Retreat?
And that the truth! "RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!"


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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:19 AM
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28. Think they will use that one against us
as well? It is ridiculous to take the flack from the Republicans slack...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:19 AM
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29. The 25th and 26th would be some good days to pass some good
things for the country, with the GOPers out of the way.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:23 AM
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32. Nancy should give the republics those days off, and schedule important votes
Make them choose...same old same old, or actually WORKING for their paychecks. WTF do they need a RETREAT for? They've only been working an exhausting 12 hour work week for six years. They must figure that by the 25 they'll be so spent after having had to actually show up for work that they'll some down time. Lazy fat bastards.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:35 AM
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35. First they were for surge, then they were for retreat, now they're for
surge?

Nancy should say sure...take a month if you need to, but the taxpayers want us to work and that is what we'll be doing here, on your days off.

Think of all the goodies we could nial!
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:31 AM
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33. "in the interest of comity, Democrats granted "
This is where I just give up. Comity with the party that ran 'a vote for Democrats is a vote for terror'? Comity with the party of phone jamming robocalls, stolen elections, fraudulent war? Comity with the party that locked our party out of the entire legislative process in the house and threatend to change the ancient rules of the senate if we dared to obstruct their foul and corrupt agenda? What is wrong with us?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:37 AM
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36. K&R, BTW
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:49 AM
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38. Not during the first 100 hours
I think that was a lapse in judgement on Nancy's part. These overpaid Republicons could have TiVoed the game just like the rest of us working stiffs. I think it made them look weak. The only reason the thugs requested the day off was because either way Nancy decided they would exploit the decision. No - she was being a bitch. Yes - she caved in and the 100 hours was just hype.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:51 AM
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39. Like a newspaper retracting a prominent headline on page 37 the next day.
Can't someone just discredit Drudge already? What an ass.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:00 AM
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41. Hi PelosiFan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:08 AM
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43. Hi, and thank you
:hi:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:02 AM
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42. Can't someone Discredit Drudge?
Isn't that like asking someone to "make shit stink" or "make fish swim?"

He'd have to be credible in the first place in order to discredit him. I just understand why anyone takes anything he says seriously. He's been proven wrong all most as many times as Bush and Cheney.

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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:10 AM
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44. I guess it's no different than Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh.
They've all been discredited numerous times, but idiots still choose to believe them.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:57 AM
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45. Have you read “The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion” by Will Eisner?
If not, please do.

It explains why the Coulters and Drudges and Savages of the world still have an audience.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:15 PM
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47. Will Eisner!
How I loved him. I didn't realize that book was his last published work.

Did you know The Spirit is being revived?
http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/07/features/story03.html

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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:38 PM
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50. No I haven't. I'll check it out.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:13 PM
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46. what a nonstory
Drudge flogging it should have been a clue. I truly don't give a fuck, I just can't get worked up about about things like this.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:16 PM
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48. Drudge HATES FOOTBALL???? Who woulda thought???
God got revenge on OHIO for cheatin in the last election...
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:31 PM
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49. What if Pelosi had granted time off for a NASCAR race?
Would DUers have been so supportive?

I think it sends a very irresponsible message that watching (not necessarily attending) a sporting event is more important than showing up for work. If something is important enough for congress to take the day off, then shouldn't we all have the day off?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:49 PM
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51. I've been rethinking this.
At first I was upset, but Pelosi made a comment that this gives them time to read the legislation, a complaint that the Rs were making last week regarding the rules...they didn't have time to read it. Now they have been given time to read it and if their priorities were to party around a football games, then the cannot complain. If they do complain, they deserve ridicule.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:00 PM
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52. If she plays it that way, it will prove to have been a brilliant move
But I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:08 PM
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53. just a clear-cut stupid move
talking for months about the "100 hour" agenda and 5 day work weeks and then giving Republicans some lazy time is foolish. If they wanted the day off, Pelosi should have docked their pay for a day and forced them to do an extra day's work on a weekend day.
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