On KO: Ted Kennedy calls Iraq Bush's Vietnam.

[muntrv]

LBJ said "stay the course" too.

[dflprincess]

1. I thought Ted was at his absolute best in that clip

n/t

[patrice]

4. Colbert referred to EK as a large pale tube-worm, living in the sulfurous

effluvia of deep-sea volcanic vents.

I like that. It's not an insult. He does have this toughness about him. Someone should do a caricature. And Congress as a sulfurous volcanic vent seems pretty apt too!

[patrice]

2. The only certain result of/reason for staying in Iraq IS staying in Iraq.

Anything else we might do will be offset by whatever Reality Iraq actually is - Independent from U.S.

Whatever a Surge could do will be offset by what happens when the Surge is Over.

So a surge increases volatility and thus causes US to have to stay longer. The main thing we can say for certain about a Surge is that the rate of Death and Destruction will increase. For something that will not be relevant when the Surge is over.

[LittleClarkie]

3. Bless his heart, I do love me some Teddy

He's good shit.

[patrice]

5. me too.

I have a big Family; he seems like one of us.

[provis99]

6. of course, this is George Bush's first Vietnam

since he missed it the first time around.