bush the liar lies yet again; "It's important to trust the judgment of the military "

[LynnTheDem]

Oh?

"the Joint Chiefs of Staff have long opposed the increase in troops"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16532977/

So that explains why bush is going against the advise of the US military commanders; he lied.

"I'm against nation-building."

"I mean, we’re going to have kind of a nation building core from America? Absolutely not."

"If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road."

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221003.html

75% of Americans are opposed to bush's escalation. The resulting fuck-up (and corpses) are belong to George W. bUsh. Completely.

[aquart]

1. Excluding his name, name one thing George has told the truth about.;

[LynnTheDem]

2. I can think of two......

"If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it."
-1999
http://houstonpress.com/issues/2004-11-18/news/news_print.html

"If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road."
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221003.html

[aquart]

4. Think about it. He was lying at the time.

[LynnTheDem]

6. This is true.

Doesn't count when he accidentally ends up telling the truth.

[EllenZ]

3. You see what happened

to the generals who disagreed with his "surge" idea, they were replaced.

I can only assume that Bush's vast experience in the Texas Guard makes him better prepared than a career officer to make decisions like that.

[radfringe]

5. the mission needs to be clear, and the exit strategy obvious.

from 2000 Gore-bush debate:October 3, 2000

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html

Bush: Well, if it's in our vital national interest, and that means whether our territory is threatened or people could be harmed, whether or not the alliances are -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force. Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear. Whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win. Whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy. I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place. So I would take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power. Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places. And therefore I want to rebuild the military power. It starts with a billion dollar pay raise for the men and women who wear the uniform. A billion dollars more than the president recently signed into law. It's to make sure our troops are well-housed and well-equipped. Bonus plans to keep some of our high-skilled folks in the services and a commander in chief that sets the mission to fight and win war and prevent war from happening in the first place.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/10/11/politics/main240442.shtml

BUSH: Somalia. Started off as a humanitarian mission then changed into a nation-building mission, and that's where the mission went wrong. The mission was changed. And as a result, our nation paid a price.

And so I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building.

I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war. I think our troops ought to be used to help overthrow a dictator that's in our and it's in our when it's in our best interests.

But in this case, it was a nation-building exercise. And same with Haiti, I wouldn't have supported either.

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BUSH: Well, I understand. And Africa's important, and we've got to do a lot of work in Africa to promote democracy and trade. And there's some the vice president mentioned Nigeria. It's a fledgling democracy. We've got to work with Nigeria. That's an important continent.

But there's got to be priorities. And the Middle East is a priority for a lot of reasons, as is Europe and the Far East and our own hemisphere. And those are my four top priorities should I be the president. It's not to say we won't be engaged nor trying nor should we you know, work hard to get other nations to come together to prevent atrocity.

I thought the best example of a way to handle the situation is East Timor when we provided logistical support to the Australians, support that only we can provide. I thought that was a good model.

But we can't be all things to all people in the world, Jim. And I think that's where maybe the vice president and I begin to have some differences. I am worried about overcommitting our military around the world. I want to be judicious in its use.

You mentioned Haiti. I wouldn't have sent troops to Haiti. I didn't think it was a mission worthwhile. It was a nation-building mission. And it was not very successful. It cost us billions, a couple of billions of dollars, and I'm not so sure democracy is any better off in Haiti than it was before.

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BUSH: I don't think so. I think, I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I'm missing something here. I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not.

Our military's meant to fight and win war. That's what it's meant to do. And when it gets over extended, morale drops.

And I'm not, I strongly believe we need to have a military presence in the Korea Peninsula, not only to keep the peace in peninsula, but to keep regional stability. And I strongly believe we need to keep a presence in NATO.

But I'm going to be judicious as to how to use the military. It needs to be in our vital interest, the mission needs to be clear, and the exit strategy obvious.