Source: Bush to call for Iraqis to take control by November

[radfringe]

BUSH SETS TIMETABLE FOR IRAQ!!

Source: Bush to call for Iraqis to take control by November
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's new Iraq plan will call for all Iraqi provinces to be under Iraqi control by November 2007, a U.S. official tells CNN.

Bush will also call for 20,000 additional forces to be sent to the war-torn country. Most would be sent to Baghdad, but 4,000 would be sent to the Anbar Province, the official said.

The official also said the first additional forces would go into Iraq by the end of this month.

-- CNN White House Correspondent Suzanne Malveaux

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Bush again rejects calls for timetable on pullout
President provides glimpse of plan to shift duties of U.S. troops; Democrats criticize strategy.
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_867852.php
By DAVID E. SANGER
The New York Times
Thursday, December 1, 2005

ANNAPOLIS, MD. – Two and a half years after the American invasion of Iraq, President George W. Bush laid out what he called a strategy for victory Wednesday, vowing not to pull out on "artificial timetables set by politicians" but at the same time offering the first glimpse of a plan for extricating U.S. forces.

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Bush gave no timetables, counseling "time and patience," and he repeatedly rejected the calls of many Democrats and whispered urgings of some Republicans for a schedule to begin pulling out.

"Many advocating an artificial timetable for withdrawing our troops are sincere – but I believe they're sincerely wrong," Bush said. "Pulling our troops out before they've achieved their purpose is not a plan for victory."

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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iraq_war_quotes
June 2005: "I'm confident that we'll be able to continue to take reductions over the course of this year," stated General George W. Casey, Jr., the commander of U.S.-led forces in Iraq, as he stood alongside Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at a June 22 news conference. His confidence, he said, came from improvements in "the security situation and the progress of the Iraqi security forces." Casey added, though, that he opposed setting a timetable for withdrawal of troops. "I feel it would limit my flexibility," he said. "I think it would give the enemy a fixed timetable, and I think it would send a terrible signal to a new government of national unity in Iraq that's trying to stand up and get its legs underneath it."

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George W. Bush
Iraq War Strategy: Speech at the U.S. Naval Academy
Annapolis, Maryland
November 30, 2005
http://www.presidentialrhetoric.com/speeches/11.30.05.html

Some are calling for a deadline for withdrawal. Many advocating an artificial timetable for withdrawing our troops are sincere, but I believe they're sincerely wrong.

Pulling our troops out before they've achieved their purpose is not a plan for victory. As Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman said recently, "Setting an artificial timetable would discourage our troops because it seems to be heading for the door. It will encourage the terrorists. It will confuse the Iraqi people."

Senator Lieberman is right: Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a message across the world that America is weak and an unreliable ally.

Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a signal to our enemies that if they wait long enough, America will cut and run and abandon its friends.

And setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would vindicate the terrorist tactics of beheadings and suicide bombings and mass murder and invite new attacks on America.

[salin]

1. nice compilation, Radfringe!

This is the first I have read of Bush preparing to declare a deadline. Of course he has to do *something* to try to get a few more folks to express support - and that only happens if the "surge" is tied to the idea of increasing in order to decrease. But will anyone believe it? Harder to believe, after watching this obstinant bully's act for years now - your little compilation of his own words would be great for another Daily Show Bush vs Bush snippet. (Where John has bush debating bush.)

[radfringe]

2. I'm trying to figure out what term he will use

to call it a timetable without calling it a timetable..

I thought maybe he would call it a chronological construct - but that has too many syllables

[maine_raptor]

5. Benchmark or milestone.

He's used those a lot recently, so he probably just learned them and you know how he likes to practice using them big words he just found out about.

[salin]

9. I am interested in the rhetoric he is going to use to cheapen

the word "sacrifice"... Repeatedly it is floated that he is going to ask the public to 'sacrifice'. Lots has been said about the disgusting idea that the sacrifice will be narrow and only that of members of the military and their families. As for the rest of the public the only "sacrifice" it sounds like they will be asked to make is to "sacrifice" their negative opinions of bush and this policy "in order to give it time to work." WTF is there a more selfish, superficial, cheapening of the meaning of the word?

[magellan]

3. This will be Dimson's defining "Read my lips" moment

To appease the public, this will be made to sound like the escalation will draw down in November. But I won't be shocked when November rolls around and we're straightened out on what Bush** really said -- and the new troops remain stuck in Iraq.

[radfringe]

4. as I've said in a couple other posts this morning

it's time to poop or get off the pot

all bush is doing is farting on the pot and calling it a bowel movement. he's just going to drag this out and dump the stinking mess on someone else

[Junkdrawer]

6. More of a hope than a timetable...

"Jeez guys, you think you could be ready in a year? Well, give it the college try."

[theHandpuppet]

7. Or we'll what, Herr Bush? Cut and run?

His words, not mine.

What happens when the November deadline comes and goes? Note, Iraqis "taking control" by November (highly unlikely) doesn't mean our troops will come home. What then, mein fuerhrer? Some tactical nukes? More extended deployments? After all, gotta protect that oil now that the Iraqi govt has signed those juicy contracts on the dotted line. And what a waste it would be to vacate that huge compound you just built in Baghdad, the one you call the biggest embassy in the world, where the boys from Halliburton and KBR can enjoy a dip in the pool and a char-grilled steak whilst everyday Iraqis, if they're lucky, will have the lights on long enough to see the rations they'll be having for their own dinners.

The Bush administration has NO INTENTION of withdrawing from Iraq. Not now, not in November, not EVER.

[DemReadingDU]

8. Bush is using tactics

to keep this war going, until 2008 when the next president will actually set the deadline to withdraw our troops

[Nickster]

10. Exactly right, they kick the can down the road....change the conditions....set new timelines.....

"in another 6 months"....No one is holding their feet to the fire and they realize they can't fix it, so they are leaving the mess for the next President to try and fix along with the myriad of other issues that Dubya will dump on the next White House Admin.

[Lowell]

11. Bush is just maneuvering more delays

he is doing everything he can to stall the inevitable. The longer he drags this out the more blood will be spilled and the more profit his cronies will make. It is time to stop him. Before he passes this mess on and claims that "we were winning" when the next Democratic administration takes over.

[spanone]

12. So Bush* says we can do in 10 months what we haven't done in 4 years?

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