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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:16 PM
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3 Questions before any war (or buying that another country is a threat)
1. How many times over could we nuke that country off the map if they attacked us?

If it was Russia or China, maybe only 5-7 times. If it was a smaller country, the pilots would get bored after the first 30-40 runs.

2. What would this country gain by attacking us?

3. What business interests would profit from us attacking that country, and what has that interest done for us to deserve that sacrifice of tax dollars and lives?

Those first three address the kind of truly embarrassing childish lies and ommissions have been allowed to sell the American people.

But their is a second level of lies that has some credibility in academic and even military circles related to 3 about "strategic access" to resources. Therefore, some corrallaries are necessary:


3A. If someone says we need "strategic access" to a natural resource that country has, what would that country gain economically by denying us access besides ideological bragging rights? Would withholding the product do far more economic damage to them than us?

If a country has only one product, like OIL, cutting off the customer that uses 25% of the product would create a glut for other consumers, lower prices, dry their treasury and elites bank accounts of income, and possibly cause a recession or depression for their own people even more than it hurt us.


3B. If someone says that country may jack up prices if we don't invade, would the current price of that commodity plus the cost of military action in tax dollars,lives, and international resentment be less than their hypothetical exorbitant price?

These questions or some variation of them should be asked by every reporter, congressman, senator and American whenever military action is proposed.

Even Democrats have sold some variation of these lies about Iran saying Iraq was a distraction from the "real" threat of Iran. Their threat in reality is the same as Iraq's or Venezuela's: that the country might keep a decent share of their oil income and American companies won't get all they want (or any at all). And if a country like Iran gets nuclear weapons, the political cost of going in to take that oil will be too high.

The Democrats have made some steps in the right direction in their brief time back at the wheel. Declaring something like this would plant them firmly in the center of the reality-based community instead of being nearer neighbors to it than the GOP.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:24 PM
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1. Good points. The only problem: You're using rational thought and logic
These guys don't.

It's all "faith-based", unfortunately.

And most of us have lost all faith in these pricks.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:44 PM
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2. they believe in reality, they just "create" the fake one so the rest of us will go along with them
If the Democrats stepped firmly into reality on this issue and asked those questions loudly and often, it would be tougher for someone else to "create" reality.
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