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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:41 PM
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serious kool-aid drinking mother of a dead soldier on w/tweety
i'm sorry for her loss, but she was just saying that women would suffer if we leave now, you know, i believe that, but wtf, women were in better shape under saddam. please correct me if i'm wrong. she also seems very pushy.
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:42 PM
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1. She's been mentally destroyed by Bush
He killed her child. She must believe he was a sacrifice and not Bushfodder.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:45 PM
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2. Doesn't Want Her Son To Have Died In Vain...
If she continues to think it, and say it loudly enough, she can convince herself that his death was worthwhile.

That's the only argument these right wingers have been pushing the last couple of years of this FIASCO. "We can't have let them die in vain."

Face it, this war was a SHAM, and your kids DID die in vain. That doesn't mean we're ungrateful. It doesn't mean they weren't heroes. All it means is that they died for no good reason, and did so in a conflict which was based upon lies.

But these folks are all just fine with MORE and MORE troops getting killed, just so long as their own children's deaths were not for naught.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:55 PM
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10. brave US Soldiers
But our military is.......... Not to be used so Iraqi women can get out of their burkhas...

Not to be used so they can vote with their purple thumbs

Not to be used to depose an evil dictator

Not to be used to fight for oil

Not to be used to help Halliburton


Our military is for defense of the US only.............period
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:48 PM
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3. I saw her too.....
...are the ladies out of their burkas now? I don't remember what freedoms the Iraqi women have been granted :shrug: All I know, the only ones left there want to stay in their traditional and cultural lifestyles.

Maybe that Mom needs to debate Cindy instead of Matthews.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:38 PM
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9. As an aside
I don't think women veiled (or wore Burkas) under Saddam Hussein. My understanding is that many of the women veiling there now are doing so out of fear. Just sayin' ...
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:49 PM
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4. Her body language was so telling
sitting sidewise, ready for a battle, wanting so much to attack the other mother, barging in and answering ahead of the other mother - she is a real right winger through and through - she is simploy sick
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:04 PM
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5. A 12 per center who has given the ultimate sacrifice.
I was perplexed by all her hubris after losing a child. She talked about finishing the job. God, that means more mother's losing sons and daughters.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:06 PM
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6. its quite possible she's now just filled with hate
and thinks other mothers should suffer like her.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:15 PM
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7. Women better off under Saddam:
Women were better off under bad Saddam, one-time U.S. ally.
According to Houzan Mahmoud from the Organization of Women's Freedom in Iraq, "Under the previous dictator regime, the basic rights for women were enshrined in the constitution. Women could go out to work, university, and get married or divorced in civil courts. But at the moment women have lost almost all their rights and are being pushed back into the corner of their house."

Islamists are imposing the traditional Islamic dress code on women, and the general climate of lawlessness causes many women to adopt it for self-protection. "Dalal Jabbar, 19, a resident of Sadr City, a poor Shiite Muslim neighborhood in Baghdad, said Iraqi women are more afraid today than ever before. 'There is no law to rule the country,' she said. 'I see the scarves as the best way to protect ourselves in Iraq now. When I walk in the street, I know I'll have no trouble, because men prefer to look at others without a scarf, more than me.'"

Intellectuals were better off under bad Saddam, one-time U.S. ally. The Times Higher Education Supplement noted in September 2004 "a widespread feeling among the Iraqi academics that they are witnessing a deliberate attempt to destroy intellectual life in Iraq." According to the Monitoring Net for Human Rights in Iraq, over 1,000 Iraqi academics and scientists had been shot to death between the beginning of the U.S.-led invasion and late 2005.

People in general were better off under bad Saddam, one-time U.S. ally.
According to John Pace, former director of the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission for Iraq, "Under Saddam, if you agreed to forgo your basic right to freedom of expression and thought, you were physically more or less OK. But now, no. Here, you have a primitive, chaotic situation where anybody can do anything they want to anyone." Under Saddam the scale of abuse was "daunting," but now, "It extends over a much wider section of the population than it did under Saddam."


http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp03312006.html

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:30 PM
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8. Women in Iraq are now TOAST with the Shias in charge
They are being driven back to the 14th century.

She certainly suffered a terrible loss, but that does not make her a good policy person
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