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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:31 PM
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where the bloody hell is he proposing to get more military from?
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 09:41 PM by uppityperson
They have had to cut recruitment goals to meet them. Are they going to offer more money or will the draft be needed to do Iran/Syria? Actual question from me, where? Edited to add, I am not talking about increasing tours of those already in, but he was referring to increasing the total number in the military.

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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:32 PM
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1. well, 1 outta 30 americans in currently in jail... who knows...n/t
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:33 PM
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2. Increase lengths of tours of duty, call back for extra tours,
and increase the budget for recruiters, most likely.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:36 PM
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6. He said increase the numbers IN the military
not increase time those in military have, or double employments, but increase the numbers. Period. bastard
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:38 PM
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7. Increase funding for recruiters, and raise goals.
More boots looking for more boots, I'd wager.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:40 PM
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9. they had to decrease goals to meet them already.
so they will recruit the ones that shouldn't be there, to meet the numbers? damn them all mrbushandhisevilminions
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:33 PM
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3. they are extending their war zone deployments by 120 days+
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:38 PM
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8. he said increase the numbers IN the military, not about where and when
or extending or any of that, but the numbers. How? Joining bonuses? Draft? In addition to overextending those in, he wants to increase the total number in.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:34 PM
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4. Soldiers currently serving will have their tours extended.........
......again.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:35 PM
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5. What? Does he figure that leaving them there until they're all dead is
okay as long as he can say he didn't withdraw the troops? :grr:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:17 PM
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22. I'm sure the yellow ribbon magnet on Bush's big white pick-up......
.....parked at his fake Texas ranch makes up for it.
The president supports the troops! His yellow ribbon says so.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:40 PM
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10. Can you say "reinstatement of the draft"?
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 09:42 PM by Penndems
Because I suspect that's what it's gonna boil down to.

Bush is gonna ask Congress and the American people for 20,000 more troops to be sent to Iraq, but it'll probably be more like 50,000. Since we don't have the military manpower readily available to meet that goal, he'll resort to either asking Congress to reinstate the draft or, knowing The Village Idiot, he'll completely circumvent Congress and sign an Executive Order making the draft mandatory. I'll go with the latter rather than the former and, if it does come to that, all hell would break loose.

The man has lied about everything else, the number of American military servicepeople won't be any different.








(edited for typo)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:46 PM
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12. he can extend tours, make people stay & go back again
that is not my worry. My worry is where he said he wanted to increase the total number IN the military, not overuse those already in. fuck him
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:01 PM
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15. "Increase the total number in the military" is Bush double-speak
How the hell can he increase the total number of troops already in the military? Clone them? That statement doesn't make any sense. It's totally illogical (but, then again, so is Bush). A soldier who has spent three or four tours in the Middle East ain't gonna be too happy about being called up for a fifth.

Mark my words: "Military reinforcement" is spelled D-R-A-F-T.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:04 PM
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17. exactly. Draft, or increase signing bonus, or get JDs or what?
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:09 PM
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18. Draft, and increased signing bonuses and benefits
Those would be my guesses.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:12 PM
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20. me too
damn it all, need to get skinner to restart anti-draft forum
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:14 PM
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21. Memo to Skinner: Please restart the Anti-Draft Forum!
It's sure to be a popular one.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:41 PM
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11. Maybe he'll ask the Mexican Army
He could propose they do the fighting the American soldiers don't want to do.

In all seriousness, without a draft he may be reduced to hiring mercenaries.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:49 PM
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13. Afganistan for starters.. troops are already being moved out
to be redeployed in Iraq. According to MSNBC the surge has already begun and over 2000 new troops are already in Iraq. His call for "sacrifices" was his veiled way of saying cough up your sons and daughters cause mine sure ain't goin...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:02 PM
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16. no no no, not increase # tours or move them or send them, increase NUMBERS total numbers
he said he will increase the number in the military. He will continue to overuse who is there, but where is he going to get the people to jack up the total number?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:23 PM
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23. Sorry my bad...
According to the plan, laid out here:
http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.25396,filter.all/pub_detail.asp
Bush was supposed to ask for volunteers to enlist. Guess all the balls he could muster were to ask for "sacrifices" instead of telling us to go shopping.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:50 PM
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14. Send in the twins...
there ought to be twins
well, maybe next year.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:10 PM
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19. College Republicans and Wealthy Republican Donor Families, no doubt.
Now they can donate their child's flesh and blood! I'm sure they'll be lining up to do it.
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