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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:05 PM
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Senator Clinton shows lack of leadership.
Where is Senator Clinton tonight? Sitting quietly on the fence, keeping her head down, or what? I want a Democratic Party candidate with some OVARIES, and find her silence on the current issue to be the final nail in the coffin of her presidental ambitions.

I really had hope for her for a long time, but this absence from the field of battle is an act of political cowardice that will eliminate her from contention in '08.
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:06 PM
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1. She's having tea in the oval office with Joe and George
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:17 PM
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Is Hillary being late tonight's RW talking point. ? Seems like it.
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 11:49 PM by ariellyn
:shrug:

Case in point>>>

Senator Clinton shows lack of leadership. La_Fourmi_Rou... Thu Jan-11-07 04:17 AM
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Hillary: late to the party bluewave Thu Jan-11-07 04:14 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3090504

At long last, Hillary has just issued a statement opposing the escalation. ocelot Thu Jan-11-07
03:54 AM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3090529&mesg_id=3090529

Gee Hillary is finally following the leader montanacowboy Thu Jan-11-07 04:47 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3090503
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:07 PM
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2. You can't give her until like tomorrow?
I am no fan of the senator, but I will let her think this through for a day.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:07 PM
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3. Surrre.......you had hope for her.....haha good one
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:16 PM
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17. There was a time...
Back when we were all basking in the afterglow of the WJC presidency, I really thought she would one day become the first woman president, and loved her for standing by Bill and for her dedication to healthcare reform.

She voted for the IWR and has had ample time to come up with a statement on this latest insanity, or to admit that she blew it big-time on that vote. She hasn't, while other, lesser lights have stepped out with courage and clarity.

I do hope that she can stay in the Senate a long time, but if she can't speak on the war, she hasn't the character to be President.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:07 PM
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4. If she thinks she can come down from the mountain with some tablets...
...she's mistaken. She can't wait any longer. She needs to say something now. Why wasn't she the one giving the Dem response is what I want to know?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:09 PM
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8. Durbin is a member of the Dem Senate leadership
That's why he was on.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:12 PM
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14. Thanks - but leadership doesn't always give the responses
I understand that this is a very serious situation. But I think it would have given her the moment. I want to see more from her. A late entrance may work at coctail parties. Not now. Now, we need leadership from those wanting to run for president. That's how I see it.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:10 PM
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9. Because that would implicitly give her the endorsment of senate dems
And there are other senate dems who are running.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:17 PM
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18. That makes sense
I guess I'm now chomping at the bit to have our candidates declare. We need our folks to all be out there influencing the country with sane Iraq policy proposals.
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greenissexy Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:10 PM
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10. Tablets?
Did some senator do that?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:14 PM
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16. Nope
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:08 PM
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5. I listened to Obama on MSNBC ...
Yes, I was very impressed! He comes across as *very intelligent.*

Wouldn't it be great to have another truly INTELLIGENT President again? ;)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:14 PM
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15. I think each of our hopefuls is truly intelligent
I'd feel more confident in the direction of our country with any of them. W and the Republican hopefuls are all losers in my book.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:08 PM
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6. She came out against the surge weeks ago
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:18 PM
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20. With this escalation speech by W, she needs to reiterate and expand on her position
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:09 PM
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7. Yep, she's waiting to see
what the polls say before she will committ to anything. Meanwhile Obama was out there tonight speaking freely on what he thought.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:11 PM
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11. She expressed her opposition weeks ago
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:17 PM
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19. Cite, please!
I keep up pretty well with the plitical dialogue, and would be very surprised to have missed it.
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:49 PM
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33. I must have overlooked it too.
Can't find it anywhere. You'd think it'd be news.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:12 PM
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12. Hillary is a corporate lackey IMO
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:12 PM
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13. I have no idea where that woman stands on anything..........
except video games. :eyes:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:19 PM
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21. I agree.
She never had my vote, and she never will have it even if she were to somehow win the primary, which she will not. Bill should gently slap her upside the head.

:yourock:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:21 PM
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22. She's so close to being the next great leader, but these wishy-washy
moments are cementing her into mediocrity.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:27 PM
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23. WELL OKAY!!! She just issued a statement
She can't support the surge.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:27 PM
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24. Ask and you shall receive.
Hillary Clinton just issued a statement saying she cannot support a surge in troops. Just announced on MSNBC.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:28 PM
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25. 10:30 p.m. Hillary issued a statement opposing the escalation.
Reported on Scarborough.
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:28 PM
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26. Hillary releases statement:
"I cannot support Bush's escalation of the war in Iraq." i will look around for the text.

Good for You, Senator! Now Pound the MESSAGE!
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:29 PM
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27. This just in...
"I cannot support Bush's proposed escalation of war in Iraq."

Kinda like *, she's 4 years too late.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:41 PM
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28. There's no making you Hillary haters happy, so it doesn't matter
when she denounces Boosh
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:48 PM
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32. Wow. I'm impressed. Excellent use of GOP tactics.
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 11:23 PM by countmyvote4real
I never said that I hated her, but just like people that disagree with *'s policies you have characterized me as a Hilliary hater. BTW, I phone-banked for her initial NY Senate campaign. I'm sure there's a way you could turn that into me hating her, too.

You Hillary lover, you. :-)

Edited for the Hitlery spelling nazis. (That one always pissed me off. Thanks.)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:10 PM
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37. So you "phone-banked" for her? Funny you can't spell the name
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:21 PM
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42. Her campaign did not require a spelling test. It was an open party then.
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 11:29 PM by countmyvote4real
This is really tiresome. I think there are much larger issues that we could both agree on or debate rather than the qualifications of Hillary Clinton or the spelling of her name. Then again, love is said to blind.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:50 PM
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34. She could cure cancer and AIDS ...
and still she'd still be the great Satan!

:eyes:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:17 PM
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40. She could only do that AFTER someone else did it first.
These days she is only that bold when it is proven to be safe for her career objectives. Please note that I'm not saying she's stupid or that she aspires to be the great Satan. She's become a corporate tool and no longer resembles the Hilary that championed universal healhcare. She wrongly got burned for that leadership and Bill's scandal must have scarred her pretty deeply, too, but I think she portrayed a very noble personae throughout that ordeal.

Unfortunately, I no longer see that leadership potential in her. I think she's bought and sold by the DLC.

Once again, I'm not hating her. I'm not supporting her and trying to explain why that is so.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:25 PM
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43. Um, ok.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:43 PM
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29. After this "speech" of this sick bastard, why are you slamming Hillary tonight?

:shrug:
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:44 PM
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30. Because she was instrumental in this failure by voting for it.
She lends it legitimacy. And she does not represent the views of her state/constituents.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:17 PM
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39. Then why did 80% of New York vote her back In?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:27 PM
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44. Because they are BLIND!!
Blinded by the great DLC Hillary ray!

Just like the big Gay Ray that Nancy Pelosi has fired on the whole nation from atop of Twin Peaks in San Francisco!!!
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:45 PM
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31. boy you got that one right.
There is so much Bush Bashing left to do. Thats a lot more fun!!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:52 PM
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35. Oh please ...
read "The Memo"!!

For the love of GOD!!!

Don't you know that "we" hate Hillary????

:sarcasm:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:15 PM
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38. I forgot. I'm too busy DESPISING LIEBERMAN
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:55 PM
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36. Huffington nailed it: "The test of leadership is to lead when not
every single person is with you."

This is what most primary voters are wondering.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:21 PM
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41. I usually leap in on these Hillary threads...
But this one is so mind numbingly inane I can't think of an adequate response...

Ooops...guess I just did!!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:28 PM
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45. G'on Elmer!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:21 AM
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46. So Boosh hasn't even finished his latest "Death to Americans"
speech, and there are already 10 Hillary threads here.
That phenomena is beyond inane.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

:freak: :dunce: :hangover: :hurts:
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