To STOP attack on Iran, Dems need to START investigation for impeachment.

[blm]

Democratic lawmakers saying they are not interested in going back to HOW and WHY the war on Iraq came about, are plain WRONG and it smacks of a smarmy nod to bipartisanship that has no place when so many lives are being lost and the constitution, itself, is at stake.

Forcing the trail of lies into the sunshine so the WH is put in the position of ANSWERING for their lies would be the best way to strip Bush of ANY power he has left to start his next war.

If the plan all along included a showdown with Iran, then carpetbombing the WH with subpoenas will put a spotlight where they never wanted it, their REAL AGENDA.

[skooooo]

1. We may be headed toward that....

I think it was smart for the Democrats to let things play out. And I think they will for a while, but obviously Bush is delusional. If push comes to shove, people will support impeachment, I think.

[blm]

3. I hope so, but not encouraging when Obama said no looking back at HOW Iraq

happened, even when he wasn't asked about it. He OFFERED that nugget to Larry King with no prompting.

[skooooo]

4. there are probably so many impeachable crimes...

...Bush has committed. They don't need to go through all that. What's going on now? He's facilitating war profiteering and breaking constitutional law.

[blm]

7. If the plan all along was to get a way into Iran, then that would come out through

the subpoenas on the critical players. So examining the how and why we invaded Iraq is EXACTLY what needs to happen.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

37. I think the only way we could save face as a nation

would be if we throw Bush to the wolves.

The world has to know that a couple of crazy men stole our elections and then started these wars with greed as their motive.

[Generator]

2. Blm goes nuclear!

But yes, yes, yes, how can we allow someone that deceived us on one war lead us to another and escalate the first one based on pure falsehoods? How can we let that stand? Bush and his toadies should be stripped of all claim to lead because they only deceive, and CRY WOLF is not a boy to be trusted.

[blm]

18. How can we point out pattern of lies going into Iran when Dem leaders won't expose lies

that led to Iraq?

[porphyrian]

5. You already know I agree. - n/t

[FightingIrish]

6. He has to be impeached now.

Once he starts another war he will claim additional privileges and immunity from the constitution. He threw down the gauntlet tonight. It's time to do what should have been done four years ago. I'd like to see the so called "grown-ups" in the Republican Party get behind the movement to get this deranged infant out of the place where he can do so much harm.

[David Zephyr]

8. Yes, of course, you know I agree. The House must impeach him.

He has admitted to violating the FISA law. That's enough for impeachment by the House.

[blm]

13. The actual number of impeachable offenses must be staggering by now.

I have faith Waxman and Conyers will not disappoint - just hope that the rest of the congress lets the anti-corruption, open government wing of the party lead the way instead of downplaying their efforts as they tend to do.

[sandnsea]

9. That's exactly right

They lied about WMD. They lied about their intention to go to war. They were planning war in Iraq with money allocated to Afghanistan. The Congress has to go back to the beginning and expose the lies and expose his desire to go to war in Iraq whether there was WMD or not. It's essential and anybody who doesn't know Bush lied is a full-out idiot.

[blm]

12. I think I have a good idea what you mean - the not lied to part that's being pushed

recently.

[helderheid]

10. 5th rec - may there be at least 95 more.

[Gregorian]

11. I couldn't agree more.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

14. K&R! you sum it up well when you write:

"it smacks of a smarmy nod to bipartisanship that has no place when so many lives are being lost and the constitution, itself, is at stake."

[blm]

17. I HAD to say it - every time I hear a Dem say they don't want to revisit what happened

I want to scream, because it was never VISITED in the first place, and is such a disingenuous, coverup Democrat thing to say publically.

[Uncle Joe]

15. I agree

Thanks for the post blm

Kicked and recommended

[Strawman]

16. Simultaneous impeachments of Bush and Cheney

Cheney first so the Vice Presidency is vancant and then do not approve Bush's replacement choice. Do what you gotta do to get the 17 Republicans (since I don't count Lieberman as a vote for our side) needed to sign on for removal. Have the Speaker agree to nominate a moderate, sane Republican Senator who has the clout to bring others from his party along as VP after becoming Acting President and then resign to allow that person to become president. If that's what it takes to get those votes, do it. Make a deal.

[blm]

19. President Pelosi in 2007 sounds good to me.

.

[Strawman]

21. I'm not even going to be that picky

Cut a deal with an ambitious, reasonable and sane Republican Senator who is willing to play ball. That person gets to be president for a year or two, we get the war to stop.

[lazyriver]

22. Interesting idea. Got a Rebublican Senator in mind? nt

[Strawman]

23. The one that comes to mind is Warner

[lazyriver]

24. In an ideal world, I would never suggest another Republican

for President. But as we know, we don't live in an ideal world. An impeachment of Bush/Cheney in exchange for Warner for two years is a trade I would make. It would probably be the only way impeachment would ever happen.

Now if Lincoln Chaffey was still a Senator, the idea would be even more appealing to me.

[Buck Rabbit]

27. It doesn't have to be a current office-holder or Senator.

Republicans would probably want someone like Ford was who would be unlikely to run for President in 2008. McCain and his Senate GOP buddies would try to block any current likely GOP Presidential candidate, other than McCain himself.

They also would probably not want a Senator unless that Senator was from a state with a Republican Governor in charge of appointing the replacement.

Serious horse trading would be required to get rid of Bush and Cheney but it might be possible. President Pilosi would never happen though. To get 20 Republicans (not 16, the Nelsons and Lieberman are more loyal to Bush than most of the (R) Republicans) you need to give them serious concessions. Impeachment is a political process not a judicial one.

[helderheid]

20. YES YES YES

[donkeyotay]

25. I just watched a speech postmortem on Charlie Reese (rerun)

and they discussed what a remarkable turn this speech represented - away from what the Iraqi Study Group and the generals had been discussing. It's another neocon triumph. The neocons, that brought us the Iraq war, are still running bush and still wanting war with Iran. Unbelievable, but let's not hold anyone accountable or examine what the bush administration has meant to this country.

[specimenfred1984]

26. We can only hope

Every WH employee deserves prison and nothing less. I'm sick of signing petitions and protests, I voted for a change so I can only hope that the group in power now does what I put them there to do and that is to get us the fck out of illegal "wars" and hold these repuke criminals accountable.

"Hope" isn't much to count on, our fascist country is in deep sht.

[mmonk]

28. This is the only real sure fire solution.

The president doesn't see the congress as a body that can stop him through voting and short of arrest, he is right.

[blm]

35. Bush will resign when the truth starts coming out - he has no real backbone of his own

that's why his daddy had to buy him so much protection from the corpmedia all these years.

[Senator]

29. It's True -- They Chuckle at the "Power to Hit Them with Their Purse"

A "Urinary Authoritarian Executive"** doesn't recognize purse strings. That's for sissies.

Only Impeachment moves the game. They must be Impeachment Hearings, and not open-ended "teaching" investigatory dog and pony shows.

--
**Urinary Executive or Urinary Authoritarian Executive (slang, DCspeak)

n., (en)title -- the "newly-discovered," or "inherent" (i.e., faith-based) Constitutional Authority for an appointed ruler (as opposed to elected leader) to piss down the back of the American People and tell them it's raining.

See also, Trickle-Down Economics

--

[happydreams]

30. K&R. You nailed it! During the Great Depression

FDR launched numerous investigations into the "merchants of death" that ranged all the way back to the early 1900's and especially in the lead-up to WWI. War profiteering was laid out as well as the re-arming of Germany with the help of Herbert Hoover, FDR's predecessor.

Coincidently :eyes: the Bushies hated FDR.

IMO we need to go back to the 80's when as soon as the neo-conartists headed by Reagan shitcanned the FDR era Glass Steagall act, an act BTW that pissed the Morgan banking empire off to no end...Viola! Along comes the S&L scandal.

It's time to drag all of it up and let the Public know who the real enemies of democracy are.

[focusfan]

31. i wish he could be impeached

i wish congress would put that on the table.

[blm]

34. It wouldn't reach impeachment - the investigation alone would make him resign.

Bush doesn't have the character or the spine to face impeachment or athe laying bare of all his crimes to the public he worked so hard to fool.

[Gloria]

32. I'd like to shove Bushco, along with all the enablers, both Repug and Democratic,

over a very high cliff.

This is asinine.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

33. Yes, Because Lord Knows Cheney Is Totally Against The Idea Of Attacking Iran. n/t

[blm]

36. They'll both resign when the investigation starts revealing the truth and their agenda.

You think they really have the strength of character to face impeachment? Nixon coulldn't do it, and he had a HELL OF A LOT more character than these two assholes.

[Kurovski]

38. K&R.(nt)

[Jeffersons Ghost]

39. kick...

[bigtree]

40. looking forward to it

Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), (new) chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is also.

14 months ago, then republican chairman Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), who was overseeing the investigation into prewar intelligence, said his report was near completion.

The second phase was supposed to focus on Bush and his cronies and how they used the intelligence. Part of that is supposed to deal with Feith and his 'office of special plans', so, I would say that's definitely a good place to start the unraveling and set Bush and Cheney up for impeachment.