---Senate Foreign Relations Cmte. & Condi THREAD 1 ---

[underpants]

C-Span3 link here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3093796&mesg_id=3093796

[underpants]

1. Biden lecturing Condi now

Looks like she had a long night

[LynneSin]

3. Give em hell Joe

That's my guy

:woohoo:

[cspanlovr]

2. She's looking a little down in the mouth, wouldn't you say?

I think she's in for a rough day.

[malaise]

4. Looks awful

MSNBC also has coverage

[Connie_Corleone]

5. KICK

[PCIntern]

6. "Enormousness"??

Did she just say that?

[MoonRiver]

18. Been hanging out with the master destroyer of the English language too much.

Wonder if Condi will even be able to find a community college job after her reign of incompetence.

[malaise]

7. Rice says the situation in Iraq is unacceptable

Now that took fugging long. Can anyone trust these morons who were claiming to be winning before the elections.

Sp.

[madokie]

8. Cnn is showing it now too,

all of a sudden they are paying attention, could it be the tide shifting, the wind blowing a different way maybe.

[neoblues]

9. Condo: So many words...

So little meaning.

[dogday]

11. So many lies

So little truth..... That's why I call her Condiliesalot Rice.....

[PCIntern]

10. Her diction and grammar are way off...

must be scared to death.

She's a lot of things but 'illiterate' isn't one of them.

[underpants]

13. She looks like she wants to cry

Must be hard with those horrible deamons constantly swirling around in her head.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

12. "clear, hold, and build"

good luck with that, condi

[WinkyDink]

14. She's sounding awfully shaky and wavering.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. She always sounds like she's crying when she's under pressure. eom

[onecent]

16. Was that code pink that just walked behind Condi? with the peace

sign?

[mwdem]

33. Yeah, it was. I think they escorted her out.

Someone else was flashing signs, and they got rid of him, too. I couldn't read what the signs said.

[Cocoa]

17. I hope they don't impugn her integrity

she hates that!

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. LOL!

Good one!

[underpants]

21. Yeah she prefers to do that by herself

No one and I mean NO ONE can impugn her integrity like Condi. I think that is what she has a PhD in...it is in something :shrug:

[underpants]

19. Condi admits that we are ripe for extortion from Syria and Iran

Well she didn't put it that way she is spinning it as if they want to destabilize and make us "pay a price that we can't pay"

Claims that we do TO have a regional plan-democracy.

[Oreo]

22. Dodd is staring her down

He looks disgusted. Spin Condi Spin!

This needs to be recommended so more people know it's happening.

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. Oh, so the new line is now "We take responsibility"

Too little, too late.

[underpants]

25. for the "Baghdad situation"

Well there went their supposed regional plan

[Norquist Nemesis]

29. Dems are going to have to be careful

As much as I want to see them all grilled over the coals and have to walk on broken glass, the Bushetals a playing up this beaten dog thing to try and gain sympathy. They're looking for the cameras so people will feel sorry for them. 'Those meany weanie Democwats! Be nice! They're doing their best!' :eyes:

[bdamomma]

31. 3,014 too late, oh, Condi is just a waste.

[MessiahRp]

123. Taking responsibility...

Doesn't that usually mean knowing you did something wrong, admitting to it and then correcting the situation?

They don't really think they've done anything wrong.

They just now admitted to it albeit passing the majority of the blame off onto the Iraqi Government.

Their correction is more of the same.

That's not "taking responsibility" in my eyes.

Rp

[MoonRiver]

24. I wish she would just STFU and let the grilling continue.

What a steaming pile of bull crap she's oozing. :puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. The falling on the sword stuff isn't going to sway me

They're done.

[underpants]

28. Condi is finished spinning but has to leave by 1PM everyone gets 7 minutes

I see now why they scheduled her for two meetings on the same day

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

27. Biden... telling Condi that no one has a doubt about her concern and cares

a great deal about "this"

B*llsh*t!!!! She and the Shrub have had Iraq exactly where they want it... Shrub said so in the beginning..creating chaos out of order.

[Norquist Nemesis]

30. OMG! Biden: "Do you believe the Pres has constitutional authority

to go across the border and invade Iraq(sic) and Syria?" :wow:

[bdamomma]

34. she will answer yes to that. she is a loyal lap dog to bushie.

[kentuck]

47. He said he was laying down a "marker"...

Do not think you have the authority from the Iraq Resolution to invade Syria or Iran...

[Avalux]

32. Biden just pinned Condi down on Maliki:

"are you confident Maliki will bring enough Iraqi troops - loyal Iraqi troops, who will ensure the physical safety of our marines who are embedded with them?"

She tried to dodge the question, but he kept pressing, finally she said "yes, I am confident". Good job Biden. :thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

37. she is bs'ing Biden, is she under oath???

[LSK]

35. just turned it on

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

39. Where, what channel? n/t

MKJ

[underpants]

40. C-Span3, MSNBC, CNN

C-Span Link at the top and here

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[LSK]

46. most likely will repeat tonite on CSPAN2

[Norquist Nemesis]

36. "The CORE of the Maliki plan has been preserved"

So, it's his plan but it's not his plan. :crazy:

[underpants]

44. They started this yesterday afternoon

See it isn't W's plan it is Maliki's so if it fails like all of W's plans it will be not his fault.... see PLEASE tell us that you understand it way PLEEEEEEASE

[WinkyDink]

38. She actually just used the phrase "foreign invaders" without a trace of irony.

I hate this broad so much.

[Norquist Nemesis]

41. Dodd up now

Like what he says, but I want to hear some hard Q&A. Condi's losing her focus on her acting job and she's starting to emote hate. Steam will be coming out of her ears in 10,9,8,7...

[dogday]

42. Dodd is saying what a clusterf**k this war is

The look on Condi's face is priceless.....

[underpants]

45. Dodd is very cool and under control

from his inflection it is hard to tell that he is describing such a horrible disaster and giving her a public trashing

Condi "We DID engage!"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. She looks like a cobra wanting to spring on Dodd and bite him with

her lethal venom.....

[Norquist Nemesis]

52. Yep. Now she's showing smug

Dodd slammed her about her "diplomatic" performance, rather NON-performance.

[Greeby]

48. She's speaking now

Got my protection ;)

[LSK]

49. we tried diplomacy and it didnt work

When???????????????

[LSK]

53. others engaged Syria, Dodd: what about us, Condi: umm spin spin

[goclark]

56. She is not a "diplomacy" person

She does not have the skills and she has no team that has skills either.

They are just "DECIDERS."

[annabanana]

50. What is the sign being held up behind her??

[LSK]

54. is Biden allowing protesters in there??? to give her a warm feeling!

:rofl:

[annabanana]

62. Yelling Stop the Lying, More Lying...

"he's not speaking to YOU Senator..."

[WinkyDink]

51. What, is she threatening SYRIA? Bribing them? WTH?? THEY have to

"stabilize Iraq"?

[malaise]

57. Did you jus thear her re Iran

WMD..intentions? Good fugging grief, they are repeating the same lies.

[underpants]

59. 'We DO have a way in the international compact for Iran and Syria to play

a positive role'

[Norquist Nemesis]

55. "There is a 27 year history in not engaging Iran...it's been policy,

of course we did engage with them about Afghanistan" First we didn't before we did but now we don't anymore.

[Cocoa]

58. who's the guy sitting behind her?

he has some interesting expressions and quite a big face.

[thecrow]

121. He keeps licking his lips ....disgusting! nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

60. Now Hagel and Protestors

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

65. I love how Biden told Hagel that the man was yelling about him!!!! eom

[LSK]

61. protester yelling "Stop lying, more lies, stop the war!"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. lol! Guy screaming from audience "more lies, more lies, stop the lies" Hagel was starting

to talk and Biden said to Hagel, he wasn't referring to you!!!!!!!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

68. hagel: "it was getting a little heavy in here"

[bdamomma]

99. these senators should not "play around with these protestors"

I give them credit being there.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

110. That's true. The majority of Americans protested at the ballot in November! eom

[underpants]

64. Protestor "STOP THE LIES STOP THE LIES STOP THE WAR"

Hagel jokes "he isn't from Nebraska....he took the train over from Delaware"

[WinkyDink]

70. Yeah, BIG JOKE. They LAUGHED at the notion of CITIZEN PROTEST.

PLEASE put these people in PRISON.
John Mitchell, Erlichman, Colson, et al, WENT PRISON. Nixon, Agnew DISGRACED.

How did we become so wimpy and aggressive at the same time?

[annabanana]

66. She looks like she's eating a shit sandwich....

NOT a happy camper..

[dogday]

69. And bit down on a corn kernel

sorry, but her face does look that way....

[dogday]

67. Chuck Hagel does not agree with escalation

Loved the protest STOP THE LIES.... could not of said it any better myself.....

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

71. Hagel has been outspoken against Iraq for years now. eom

[dogday]

73. Chuck is giving em hell

Saying this is most dangerous blunder since Viet Nam and recieved applause....

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

80. Yes, he is!!!! eom

[Norquist Nemesis]

78. "Bush's speech represents the most dangerous foreign policy

in the history of this country. I will resist it." (applause from the audience)

[Greeby]

72. Hagel bringing up Cambodia vis-a-vis Iran

Good one :thumbsup:

[LSK]

74. Hagel: "This speech represents the most dangerous decision..I will not support it"

[LSK]

79. people clapping

[pdxmom]

75. Boy, that's quite a schooling Hagel is delivering! n/t

[madokie]

76. Go Chuck Hagel, hes on her ass and good

[Norquist Nemesis]

81. He's not letting her spin

:applause:

[underpants]

85. Condi'The Pres. doesn't think this is an escalation" Hagel:"What do you ...

call sending in 22,000 more troops??"

[annabanana]

77. "The most dangerous Foreign Policy Blunder in American

History" - Hagel speaking about this speech and it's vagueness about attacking Iran & Syria...

Equating it with our incursion into Cambodia while insisting that we WEREN'T in Cambodia....

[dogday]

82. Chuck Hagel is nailing her

her wants an answer to his question.... More troops in not a escalation he asked condi?

[underpants]

89. 'Madame Secretary to sit that and say that is WRONG'

-Hagel

Condi is trying to say that it is just a part of Baghdad that is going wrong not all of Iraq or all of Baghdad even

REMAIN CALM ALL IS WELL!!!!!!!!!!

[Sparkly]

83. She and Chimp don't see it as an escalation?!?

:wtf:

[annabanana]

88. Oh, wait.... it's an "augmentation".. (my mistake). . . n/t

[kentuck]

84. She wouldn't call it an "escalation"...

It's an "augmentation" too permit the Iraqis to take control..

[dogday]

86. Hagel said to Condi That is just not true....

I am loving this!!!!!

[bdamomma]

117. Wow thanks you guys for the play by play

maybe Hagel should run against McCain that would be interesting. I am glad Hagel lit into her. Stupid Condi, we all know she lies for the chimp.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

122. This is where we get the 67 votes to remove chimpenstein and Dr. Evil from power

Guys like Hagel who have a little integrity and are motivated to save their political skins and their party.

[LSK]

87. Hagel "that is just not true" hes calling her a liar

:popcorn:

[annabanana]

94. (not the first time she's been called out)

[Hepburn]

97. Totally agree...

...he did all but actually use the word.

Wow!

[LSK]

90. President Kerry up

[Greeby]

91. The 44th President is up nt

[annabanana]

92. Kerry up. . .

[dogday]

93. Kerry on now!!!!

What was the joke about putting the hammer down now when they said he was up

[Gregorian]

95. Even all of America wasn't in civil war.

Hey, Idaho wasn't in civil war.

[Norquist Nemesis]

96. MSNBC/CNN not carrying this?

Shameful!!!

Kerry up!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

101. cnn came back on as kerry started

[MoonRiver]

113. CNN has it on now.

Should be continuous, but they are cutting it off from time to time. Guess when the questioning gets too hot, they cut and run. :mad:

[dogday]

98. Kerry asking where is the political approach

to this solution.. Why is there no diplomacy in play here?

[bdamomma]

120. they don't know what diplomacy is, that is what the Generals

wanted Abizaid and Casey they were against troop escalation they wanted regional diplomacy.

[Norquist Nemesis]

100. Condi firing daggers from her eyeballs, now

[Hepburn]

102. And,,,,she is doing this because he is NAILING her. n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

108. K: What if they don't (live up to it) C: You don't go to Plan B

K: What if they don't? What do WE do?
C: We stick with plan A.

[dogday]

103. Condi just said we don't have a plan B

we will just work with plan A.... That's right we have no backup plan to this escalation....

[annabanana]

104. She just admitted that, once again, there IS no "plan B"

[underpants]

105. Kerry-POTUS blew opportunity for bipartisanship and asks What about the oil revenue?

What about the federalism?

He says that the ME is much different than what Condi is representing it as

Hezbollah is stronger than ever
Hamas is stronger than ever
Iran is stronger than ever

Now he keeps asking her "But what if it doesn't?" "what if they don't"

Condi says it is not time to go to Plan B (no contengency)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

106. Kerry, to Condi..what happens if plan A doesn't work...she can't give him

an answer and starts to spin (I need dramamine) again!

[LSK]

107. Kerry is this Open-ended, Condi: it is not, Kerry: what does that mean?

Kerry: do we leave then? what happens?

Condi: spin spin spin not answering

[goclark]

115. She is speaking to the polical piece

Kerry is cut off after that because of time

[dogday]

109. They have already split up the oil pie nt

[Sparkly]

111. Kerry has her stammering...

She's making no sense!! She has no answers to his questions.

[annabanana]

112. on CNN now. . . n/t

[LSK]

114. Kerry needs to stop giving speeches and get right to questions

[annabanana]

116. (need a thread 2) ok

[annabanana]

118. thread 2

here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3094960&mesg_id=3094960

[Hepburn]

119. Coleman...

...on the issue of resolve.

He is a Repub...and he is NOT sounding pleased either. Wow...this is interesting. NO ONE sounds pleased with Bush.

IMO, this surge idea may be the beginning of the end of the Bush presidency. At least that is a happy thought.

And Condi's remarks in reply??? WTF????