Is Condi under oath?

[izzybeans]

Just wondering. I hope so.

[helderheid]

1. good question!

[Richard Steele]

2. Since she isn't "pleading the 5th", I'm guessing not. nm

[Roland99]

3. So, she said Abizaid was in favor of escalation?

[izzybeans]

6. I missed what she said but Nelson seemed to think she wasn't being forthcoming.

[bdamomma]

13. no he wasn't he was in favor of regional diplomacy, I remember

hearing that about a week or so ago, maybe on Keith Olberman.

[Bluerthanblue]

14. Yes, she said he approved of the presidents plan-

and he didn't trust her- and said he was going to find out for himself.

[babylonsister]

4. LOL! She's lying with aplomb! nt

[Nite Owl]

5. Kicking

This is really important to know.

[izzybeans]

7. Your question in the official thread sparked this particular thread.

FYI

:toast:

[originalpckelly]

8. It doesn't matter.

Whenever anyone testifies before a Congressional committee they can and will be prosecuted under 18 USC 1001, for making false statements.

The law in 18 USC 1001 carries the same penalty as the perjury statute.

[izzybeans]

9. Do you think we will see any prosecutions from past false testimony by this admin.?

No one seems to be discussing this, well widely anyway.

[madokie]

10. I'm holding out for things are only getting started with much more to come

there's them chickens again looking for their roost

[Igel]

12. "False" isn't the standard.

Willfully and knowingly false is. As with many things, the real standard is somewhat harder to enforce.

Then again, a lot of people equate lying with saying something false. There's overlap, to be sure, but they're not the same at all.

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(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

[rox63]

11. Doesn't matter - Lying to Congress is a crime as well n/t