CSPAN2: NERGROPANTE TO TELL US HOW IRAN IS A THREAT

[LSK]

Repeating now.

[michaz]

1. Oh Boy!

It is beginning!

[C_U_L8R]

2. the cadence is deafening

the war dance is in full swing

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. No it's their own death dance

this is the the last throes of the BFEE.

[LSK]

3. discussing Iran now

fucking liar

[OregonBlue]

4. I suggested on another post that they will "find" the "evidence" on one of

the computers they found in the "raid" of the Iranian consulate in Iraq and cook the info from there. Others said that it would not happen. Guess they don't believe these guys are stupid enough to try this old tactic again but, the Pres last night delivered the same old tired message, why wouldn't he try the same old tired tactic? They obviously aren't very smart or very original.

[TahitiNut]

6. Isn't it strange how Valerie Plame just happened to be a specialist on Iran?

How conveeeenient! :eyes:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Valerie+Plame+Iran&btnG=Google+Search

[LSK]

7. I will have to wait and see on that one

[Ilsa]

8. "Iran -- threat or political distraction from Iraq?"

"How to have war on three fronts when the army is worn out and the equipment is falling apart."

"Why DimSon is talking to WH portraits of past presidents at 3am."

"How to recover from a small retaliatory nuclear attack."

I'm trying to imagine all of the headlines of papers and blogs over the next few days.

[teryang]

9. Iran's new international oil bourse threatens almighty dollar

...just like Iraq did when it started accepting euros for oil.

It's about the almighty buck. This is why Goldman Sachs and the Saudi regime are now in charge of US foreign policy.

[OregonBlue]

10. You are of course right! Do Saudi's want us to go after Iran for them?

[teryang]

11. The Saudis are frightened by US created crisis in Iraq

Unconstitutional and unchecked Shia power in Iraq has removed a major check to Iranian power in the region. US aggression against Iran, the sanctions, the financial embargo, the constant threats of military attack, the drummed up nuclear issue, have created a gulf wide security crisis. And now, in the ultimate irony, Bush political failure in November causes widespread rumblings of American withdrawal.

The Saudi position is this, if you allow unchecked Shia power in Iraq and withdraw, we will go all out to restore Sunni power in Iraq. This would be accomplished by financing, arming, supplying, training whatever Sunni forces are necessary, including men commonly referred to as al quaeda who are nothing more than intelligence assets from Saudi Arabia and other islamic states. The Saudi position makes sense from several points of view, if you abandon morality, as is common in such matters. An unrestricted civil war without US interference would ultimately arrive at a political resolution at some point earlier than it will with US presence. The Saudis want to see stability. They are a status quo power. It is the US which is interested in toppling regimes to obtain control of oil fields and to defend the weakening monopoly of the petrodollar.

This crisis has resulted in increased US military commitment in return for Saudi and the other sheikdoms abandoning their OPEC commitments to shore up the failing dollar, which came perilously close to breaking support before the Saudi oil price bailout after new years.

[OregonBlue]

13. Thus a bargain between Saudis and Cheney on his last visit.

[oblivious]

12. Look at this map and tell me who is a threat to whom.

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x256073