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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:03 PM
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Joe Klein, voice shaking, says this was a dangerous speech
because we have invaded another country's consulate. And we need to know that this means we are invading another country, Iran. And although Iran did not rise to the bait, they will make us pay.

Joe Klein. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:05 PM
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1. My mouth was hanging open. He's seen the light, and it ain't pretty. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:15 PM
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9. joe klein should thank
himself for contributing to this hell hole in the abyss known as bush's war on Iraq, ad infinitum.

All the damn corporatemedia.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:19 PM
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12. Joke Line, Bite Me!
This asswipe and every sniveling phony little "liberal" who's pissed on the antiwar left need about a decade's worth of contrition before I'll ever trust another word again.

(ok, I have no idea what he's on about today, the guy just pisses me off, is all.)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:35 PM
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19. Obviously,
me, too. They gotta look in the mirror and say, "This your fault, you blithering idiot!"
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:06 PM
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2. scarsborough kicking ass.... then there is bushanan
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:06 PM
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3. I'm amazed how the country turned today
The entire political fabric has been ripped to shreds.

Bush is ALONE.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:18 PM
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11. Somebody needs to take over the "SHIP"...Now!
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:07 PM
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4. Klein is really, really upset. He said that address last night was
the worst thing he'd seen in 30 years of covering politics.

He said going after Iran is a dangerous game.

Amazing!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:25 PM
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18. Finally, the veil drops from some of these guys' eyes. Sheesh.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:07 PM
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5. I love Joe Klein. I believe him. Very reasonable and informed. n/t.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:21 PM
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13. I can't stand that fucking phoney
and I concur with others who point the finger to him as nothing more than a Bush War Enabler.

Plus, he ALWAYS, ALWAYS attacks Democrats.

tonite was no exception.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:08 PM
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6. I just thank jah
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 09:11 PM by seemslikeadream
finally they're talking about it.


Bush's Inconceivable Interest in Iran Sat Apr-01-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=819437

Senior U.S. Officials “Want to Hit Iran” Tue Apr-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=844418

Larisa Alexandrovna: CHENEY TAPS IRANIAN ARMS DEALER FOR IRAN TALKS Thu Apr-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=977234

Seymour Hersh said something startling about Rumsfeld on Democracy Now Fri Aug-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1936421

So former DLC, PNAC member Abram Shulsky feeding Cheney info on Iran?Sat Aug-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1944614

Fuck. Iran has started "war games." Escalation may only be expected.Sun Aug-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1949812

Attack on Iran is Coming Sun Aug-27-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1993284

"Grave threat". Yes, it's deja vu all over again. Thu Aug-31-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2022620

UN attacks US nuclear report on Iran erroneous misleading unsubstantiated Sun Sep-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2159951

We Are Conducting Military Operations Inside Iran Right Now Tue Sep-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2168218

Navy told: Prepare to blockade Iran by Oct 1 Mon Sep-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2161779

Pentagon Iran Office Mimics Former Iraq Office Wed Sep-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2179484

“This is the largest massing of military power in the region, and it is gathering for a reason.” Sat Nov-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2753952

Seymour Hersh: Cheney Says 'Whether Or Not Dems Win-NO STOPPING Military Option With Iran' Sun Nov-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2757350

Does anyone still believe the US will launch a full scale invasion of Iran? Mon Dec-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2856177

Saudi clerics rally support for Sunnis and Saudi ambassador Abruptly ResignsTue Dec-12-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2902643

Act III in a Tragedy of Many Parts - The US Occupation of Iraq Sun Dec-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2935498

Century Foundation Iran White Paper Series Fundamentalists, Pragmatists and the Rights of the Nation Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2948146

Oh shit Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2944423

Former CIA Officer Speculates on Folly of Attacking Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3067286

The Surge: 9,000 now, 10,000 on alert in Kuwait? WTF? (Iran bombing in the works?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3051862

Iranian missles & the US Navy in the Gulf
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3039044

CentCom Expected to Shift Focus to Threat From Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3057187

U.S. air strikes against Iran in 2007/08 as all-but-a-done deal.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3044319

Second U.S. carrier group to deploy to Gulf: sources
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3037188

Iran could bloody our nose if Bush attacks. A look at Iranian missiles
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3052957

Randi Rhodes - Cheney has sent orders to Stratcom - if terrorism, attack Iran...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3052573

George W. Bush Is Going To Bomb Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3022620

Could the surge be really oriented as a back up plan for Israel's attack on Iran?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3059883

The Time May Have Come - The Iran We Cannot Avoid - Michael Ledeen
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3047465

Any hard evidence that 'the surge' is related to an attack on Iran?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3045865

Useful maps of Iran. Please post them here for reference.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3059824
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:13 PM
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7. Even the MSM and semi-sane Repukes
now cannot deny that his chimperial highness is stark raving mad. Last night proved it for all to see. That psycho wants to start World War 3.

Chimpeach or invoke the 24th Amendment - this asshat MUST be removed.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:14 PM
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8. Klein is upset, Buchanan just said we are going to attack Iran
Jesus Christ, even the nuts are saying that we are going to attack Iran. Buchanan said there is NO REASON for us to have Patriot Missiles in Iraq, that we will go after a few networks in Iran, then they will strike back, perhaps in an undercover way, and then we will have our chance to use B-2s to bomb them, and here we go!!

These guys are freaked. Buchanan is now reverting to form. Saying we need to stay in Iraq.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:17 PM
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10. What show was this on? nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:21 PM
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14. scarborough country
on now on MSNBC.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:22 PM
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15. Scarborough Country
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:23 PM
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16. Iran's military:
Once again, I think these numbers need to be posted because a war with Iran will be nothing like invading Iraq:

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html

Iran Military

Military service age and obligation: 18 years of age for compulsory military service; 16 years of age for volunteers; soldiers as young as 9 were recruited extensively during the Iran-Iraq War; conscript service obligation - 18 months (2004)


Manpower available for military service: males age 18-49: 18,319,545
females age 18-49: 17,541,037 (2005 est.)


Manpower fit for military service: males age 18-49: 15,665,725
females age 18-49: 15,005,597 (2005 est.)


Manpower reaching military service age annually: males age 18-49: 862,056
females age 18-49: 808,044 (2005 est.)

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:24 PM
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17. Scarborough also expressed great alarm at the takeover of
the Iranian consulate in northern Iraq. He said it appears that the US is trying to provoke a military confrontation with Iran so they can justify a bombing campaign to take out Iran's nuclear sites.
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