Is This a Fascist Country?

[MoseyWalker]

I think so.

Prove me wrong.

[jgraz]

1. Yes...next question

[Rick Myers]

2. Yes. It has been codified. Friendly Fascism... n/t

[MoseyWalker]

5. friendly fascism

kinda like nazi noogies!

I like it!

[MadMaddie]

3. Yes....However, Americans will not stand by much longer

I am getting the feeling that things are going to get crazy this year...beyond anything that we can dream of...

[Jcrowley]

4. Rhetorical much?

" The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it is profitable to continue the illusion.At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain,they will pull back the curtains,they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre"---
---- Frank Zappa, Prophet.

[MoseyWalker]

6. thanks for bringing that back

to the forefront. What a smart guy!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Well, the fascists are in charge.

:shrug:

Well, of the executive branch anyway.

[TahitiNut]

8. We're frogs in a fascist pot that's been brought to a slow boil over time.

It's been 30 years of increasing temperature (after about 50 years of getting it ready) and it's about 200-205 degrees about now. While it's not quite bubbling yet, it'll take a lot more than one election, or even several, to turn down the temperature.

[MoseyWalker]

14. not to get personal here

because I rarely, if ever get or send pm's, and won't now, but I have to say......

You are an incredible poster with such a sharp mind. I admire you and your posts, as I am sure many others do.

Just wanted to get that in because I'm impressed with your posts.

Thanks for being here for me to read.

[TahitiNut]

20. (blush) Well, thank you. You're being very generous. Some, of course, would vigorously ...

... argue the opposite. From my own perspective, if I'm not pissing SOMEONE off then I'm not doing it right. :evilgrin:

[Cleita]

9. We still have a shred of the Constitution left, so I hope this

is enough for us to reclaim our democracy. The first move would be to neuter the power of big corporations. I don't know how but maybe bringing back and enforcing anti-trust laws would be a good start.

[LSK]

10. to be determined.

Lets give Congress more than 1 week please.

[rocktivity]

11. These might help

http://www.bushflash.com/14.html
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27/076.html

:headbang:
rocknation

[roamer65]

12. Yes. Very similar to fascism under Mussolini.

[Lord Byron]

13. No

Fascists don't send US jobs overseas. Fascism is about autarky.

[otherlander]

15. Was Farenheit 451 a fascist society?

Technically, they were a democracy, right? Because at one point the wife talked about who she had voted for for president, and that he had won.

[ftr23532]

16. An even scarier question...

...are the fascists running our country in league with other fascist powers across the globe and have been for decades now? I'm leaning towards http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/">yes. :hide:

[hansberrym]

17. Maybe neo-fascist in that national interest has been abandoned

for global corporate interest. But in many other ways it is becoming much like the original.

[ftr23532]

19. let's hope they skip a few things this time around

...like http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/09/ING9C2QSKB1.DTL">this stuff:

Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

Edwin Black

Sunday, November 9, 2003

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

...

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

Stanford President David Starr Jordan originated the notion of "race and blood" in his 1902 racial epistle "Blood of a Nation," in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.

In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation's social service agencies and associations.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, confinement or forced sterilization.

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

Much of the spiritual guidance and political agitation for the American eugenics movement came from California's quasi-autonomous eugenic societies, such as Pasadena's Human Betterment Foundation and the California branch of the American Eugenics Society, which coordinated much of their activity with the Eugenics Research Society in Long Island. These organizations -- which functioned as part of a closely-knit network -- published racist eugenic newsletters and pseudoscientific journals, such as Eugenical News and Eugenics, and propagandized for the Nazis.
...

Considering the folks behind the http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif99.html">rise of the New Right, though, we can't be too sure.

[MoseyWalker]

21. they won't be so obvious

now that they have lost much of their base, but they will continue, because that's just who they are.

[mmonk]

18. We're in a kind of proto fascist state right now.

One thing we are not is a liberal democracy with free citizens any longer.

[lectrobyte]

22. Yes, in the "business and government combined" definition. And

probably others.