great framing in post at bartcop

[monarch]

Subject: The Terri Schiavo war

"Iraq has now become the Terri-Schiavo war; the patient "died" a looooooooong time ago,
the patient is only technically "alive" due to artificial means. Bush's plan is to keep pumping
food and water and keep the machines running in the hope that one day the patient will
miraculously arise and walk and talk again. the dem's plan is to acknowledge reality and
pull the damn plug! No amount of intervention , at this point will save this patient who most
assuredly is already lost. Screeching about how the dems have no plan for "victory" is the
same as yelling at the doctors who had no plan to make Terri Schiavo sit up and talk again.
It is a shameful and sad thing to see how far the right-wing detachment from reality has taken
them. To them, acknowledging reality is weakness and admitting limitations within a reality
based context is "defeatism". How sad "
Cheshire11

[wakeme2008]

1. kick and nom :)

[Karmageddon]

2. K&R

[Philosoraptor]

3. Pointless life support. Let it go.

[GuvWurld]

4. These are the last throes of the Bush administration

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3109879

[IndyOp]

5. Another good frame... Republican Auto Maintenance

Republican Auto Maintenance

Democrat: You better put oil in that engine.
Republican: I’m not going to use oil. I’m going to run light and nimble.
Democrat: You’re going to wreck your engine. You better add oil.
…
Democrat: I see you burned up your engine.
Republican: I’m going to add oil now.
Democrat: You don’t need oil now. It won’t help.
Republican: Typical Democrat flip-flopper. You were for oil before you were against it.

From Excerpt of SFRC exchange between Kerry and Condi

[A Simple Game]

7. Nice analogy. n/t

[Hoping4Change]

6. I strongly disagree., in fact I find the sentiment obscene.

If Iraq was a brain dead human then the comparison might be apt, however Iraq is filled with millions of people who are not Terri Shiavos.

[bluesbassman]

8. You're right...

Iraq is not a brain dead human. It is however a brain dead war. So unless you can explain how maintaining this "war" will in any way help the people of Iraq, the comparison stands.

[tavalon]

9. You missed

It's the war that's brain dead, not the people. Bush isn't escalating to keep the Iraqi people alive, he's escalating to keep the Iraq war alive. But I don't think he's hoping it will walk and talk again, I think he's just hoping to keep the war on "life support" until he can walk and let the next CIC deal with it. It's a common thing with Bush - fuck up and let someone else clean up the mess.

[tavalon]

10. Kudos to Cheshire11

Excellent framing. He wins the Lakoff award for excellence in framing.