RawStory: Bush tells 60 Minutes 'no matter what Congress wants' surge is on

[Roland99]

Bush tells 60 Minutes 'no matter what Congress wants' surge is on
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_matter_0113.html

In an excerpt of a CBS 60 Minutes interview released Friday, Bush said he believes he has the authority to send additional troops "no matter what Congress wants."

"They could try to stop me from doing it, but I have made my decision and we are going forward," Bush said.

:mad:

[Mythsaje]

1. Did I hear someone say Impeachment?

It's beginning to look more and more likely.

[Roland99]

8. I wonder if Nancy will start changing her tune?

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. The hearings are in progress

The adults are back in charge.

That's why BushCo is in such a hurry to escalate the ME conflict. They see it has their last chance for total control, because they know they're going to jail otherwise.

[B Calm]

22. That's why they have to hurry the impeachment!

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. The wheels are coming off the bus

and the next two week will probably be the most important weeks in US history.

[Roland99]

26. Who's holding them and where are they being held?

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Waxman, rangel, on teh senate side I believe Biden

they are not called impeachment but they are the initial investigations....

Those who study history UNDERSTAND that the first hearings on watergate were NOT before the Imopeachment committee, but a plethora of comittees

Once they had enough evidence they moved to the next step

Impeachment is a political act, but those that are not seen as political revengge (Watergate) are also organic

[Roland99]

44. Biden? That's surprising. I figured Feingold would be right in the mix

Maybe Leahy and Byrd, too.

[DoYouEverWonder]

50. Leahy starts hearings this week

but he's already been very busy.


Halliburton, Your Time Has Almost Expired

In yet another sign that a change has come to Capitol Hill in the form of a Democratic Congress that actually works for a living, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), the new Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has introduced two bills to crack down on the war profiteers who have been fed so much money by the Bush administration.

Leahy wasted no time on the very first day of the 110th Congress last week in proposing both S.118, the Effective Corruption Prosecutions Act of 2007 and S. 119, the War Profiteering Prevention Act of 2007.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bob_geig_070109_halliburton_2c_your_ti.htm

[Roland99]

51. I hope he can recoup some of the wasted money...

and force the corrupt contractors to donate to a 'war on terror' victims/family fund.

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. The House and Senate

have both been having hearings all week and there are a lot more scheduled. A lot of it is run on C-Span.

Leahy, Boxer, Waxman, Conyers, and a bunch of others are all head of committees now. Things are good.

[Roland99]

49. The only thing going on this past week that I was aware of was Rice testifying

Damn, the Dems need some better PR people!

[The Backlash Cometh]

28. Armageddon version of Wag the Dog?

[lonestarnot]

31. Armadillioan.

[Maraya1969]

32. Nancy better start changing her tune. She is not the decider either.

And any member of congress can start an impeachment. They sure as Hell know the people want it.

I am getter madder every day that goes by that they do nothing. The only way I can see that they can stop this crazy bat shit idiot is to start an impeachment.

[Roland99]

33. Holding out hope for the N.M. State Legislature

[robertarctor]

2. "Unitary Executive" is a nice Orwellian euphemism for dictator

And ol' Chimpy McFuckstick certainly is filling that bill. Impeach the little tyrant already.

[Syrinx]

3. r

[Kutjara]

4. As an English Civil War buff...

...I can't help but be struck by the parallels between Bush and Charles I. Let's hope Congress today has the courage that Parliament had then and curtail the ambitions of this latter day Divine-Right monarch.

[izzie]

6. I do think you are right, Bush thinks like that. Our own autocrat.

I also think he can say this because it has all ready been done. I also do not think Congress will stop it. I do think it will go down hill before Congress will finally wake up and get the 'balls' to do anything. I think this mess will be left for the next guy.

[WinkyDink]

45. I've always seen Bush pere and fils as CI and CII, respectively, with

Clinton regarded BY THEM as the Inter-regnum Cromwell.

Of course, the religious aspects would be reversed.

[pinniped]

5. I will send the POS a set of plastic Army soldiers when he....

sits in his FN cell at the Hague.

Where the F is the justice?

[liberal renegade]

7. I heard it said the only justice

is for just us rich.

[Bluerthanblue]

29. hey, way ot- but maybe it is time for another

plastic army man campaign.

Like the last one- "Bring them Home"- but with the added or new phrase that says, something about the profound difference between playing war with toys, and the real cost in terms of actual 'girls and boys' including the Iraqi civillians.-

bush is pushing his envelope- I'd like to see this proposal be his alamo moment.

[Roland99]

30. He's not pushing the envelope. He's ripped it to shreds and set it on fire!

[Bluerthanblue]

38. you're right- n/t

[lligrd]

9. Didn't Daddy Teach The Chimp That Hubris

is deadly? Does Junior even know what Watergate was or was he too coked at the time to notice?

[ClintonTyree]

10. Bush doesn't really understand the way our government works

he's shown that time and again. He thinks the President has unlimited power and the other branches of government exist to serve him. The man REALLY IS that stupid. He has no understanding whatsoever of how our government works or what the functions of the different branches are.
I my opinion his actions constitute impeachable offenses and if the House doesn't get off it's keesters and write articles of impeachment soon, VERY soon, it will too late to prevent him from escalating an aleady un-winnable Iraq war into an un-winnable WORLD WAR.
The son-of-a-bitch works for us and does not have unlimited power to do as he sees fit. It's time to fire this asshole, vote him off the island, give him the hook but he HAS TO GO! :grr: Never have I despised a human being as much as I do that spoiled, ignorant brat that is squatting in our White House at the moment. Never!

[luckyleftyme2]

11. CONGRESS NEEDS TO ACT

THEY NEED TO DO THE DRASTIC MOVE=STOP THE FUNDING -BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!

[malaise]

12. They will when American people

take the streets

[Roland99]

39. Other than a very few of us who understand, that won't happen. At least not until...

this war starts hitting home for the majority of America.

[Bryn]

14. Yes, I completely agree

He has to GO!!! He thinks he owns the United States of America and the People when in truth he is is working FOR US. It's up to us to FIRE him.

We shouldn't be afraid of Government. Government should be afraid of us, THE PEOPLE.

[Bryn]

13. Remember, remember

from "V" for Vendetta movie

V says "You shouldn't be afraid of government. Government should be afraid of you"

[Eurobabe]

15. Yeah, because this dumb fuck wants a piece of Iran

CONGRESS OPEN YOUR EYES!!! Remove this lunatic now!!

[NewJeffCT]

16. That sounds like a challenge to me

Are you people in Congress going to back down, or will you stand up to this bully?

[JCMach1]

18. He's throwing down the gauntlet

[neoblues]

17. He may have the power...

but to do so against the opinion of so many leaders, experts and in direct conflict with the will of the people... is utterly unforgivable. Seems as though we need to make recalling a holder of the Office of the President easier and perhaps even better, a mechanism for calling for a national referendum/vote to actually "override" the decisions of our government (any Branch, any decision).

[Cooley Hurd]

19. Time to pull the plug on Scurrilous George...

Jesus Christ, I can't believe what I'm about to say, but I'd welcome a military coup against the nutty bastards on Penn Ave...:grr:

[Dinger]

21. O.K. This Is Bullshit. Either This Is America Or It Isn't!

He has got to go - NOW!!! WIll somwbodt goddamn do something??!!!

[Vinca]

24. The bottom line is the Decider is now the Dictator.

He disregarded the election results. He doesn't listen to Congress (unless they agree with him). He believes he has the power to do anything. The icing on the cake is he appears to be batshit crazy. How do you remove a president who's gone off his rocker?

[Morgana LaFey]

25. There's a Constitutional answer for that -- Article 25

I believe, BUT you have to have people in power (Congress) who actually see that he's nuts.

I said when it was clear that he was simply ignoring Jim Baker's group's recommendations that we'd now arrived in Neroland. Mad as a hatter. (Hatters, btw, used to use something with mercury in it in their profession, and they typically little by little succumbed to its harmful effects.)

[dogday]

27. He is shutting Congress out and not just Congress

Read this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3112126&mesg_id=3112126


Not only is he shutting out Congress, he is no longer trying to be transparent in his job as to not allow the press, only the one station that would kiss his ass....

Impeach and convict!!!!

[Darkhawk32]

34. Will the Dems have the courage to try to stop him? n/t

[Roland99]

40. Some do, like Murtha and probably Feingold.

[pdxmom]

35. Hmmm...I wonder what he thinks about what the American people

want. Of course, that's rhetorical, because we all know what he thinks. He spits in their faces, as well.

I was against a rush to impeachment until now, agreeing with many that we needed to go through investigations, etc., and convince the people that this was needed. I no longer feel that way. I want this administration gone....NOW.

[Roland99]

36. They're being forced into a corner and acting ever-increasingly insane

[goforit]

37. Bush out of control.

[Cleita]

41. Now I understand what democracy Bush was trying to bring

to Iraq, ours under his administration, where the will of the people and their representatives count for nothing when the dictator in the White House has decided otherwise.

[Auntie Bush]

42. How the hell can we stop a Dictator...without taking to the streets

with arms? :shrug:

Sorry Agent Mike...I'm not trying to start a revolution.
Just saying......

[candidate]

46. Sorrry, but he's not a dictator.

The constitution grants the President power over the armies of the nation, which means that Congress technically has no right to stop the surge.

However, if enough misconduct has occurred (and it has), then he can at least be impeached for all the carnage he's caused.

[Roland99]

48. Are you sure Congress doesn't have the right? Could be argued IWR is now moot.

Also, back in November 1993:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/10/mcconnell-somalia

In November 1993, McConnell supported a move by Congress to place limits on military spending for U.S. troop deployments in Somalia. Section 8151 of Public Law 103-139 “limited the use of funding in Somalia for operations of U.S. military personnel only until March 31, 1994″ and permitted “expenditure of funds for the mission thereafter only if the president sought and Congress provided specific authorization.”

The language passed the Senate as an amendment introduced by Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV). McConnell voted for it. He also spoke on the Senate floor about the legislation:

The narrow issue before us tonight is simply how do you leave? We are leaving, we all agree on that. … The only issue here tonight is how we leave and, in my judgment, the Byrd amendment better defines the proper exit for the United States in this most unfortunate experience in Somalia, at least since May.