On CSPAN2 - 12pm - Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil and Derailed the Alternatives
Edwin Black

At a recent meeting of the American Jewish Committee's Institute for Analysis of Global Security in Washington, DC, Edwin Black describes how the automotive and petroleum industries have encouraged oil dependence. Mr. Black begins by telling his audience that people have been trying to monopolize resources -- wood, water, electricity, etc. -- since the beginning of human history. He then explains that the first battery-powered car was developed in the 1890s, but its production was undermined by advocates of the internal combustion engine. Edwin Black concludes his talk by weighing in on the feasability of alternative energy sources such as corn & sugar cane ethanol, hydrogen, nuclear power, and solar power.

Edwin Black is the author of six books, including "IBM and the Holocaust" and "Banking on Baghdad." He is an investigative journalist and syndicated columnist who has been nominated for the Pulitzer Prize nine times.

[shireen]

1. thanks for the reminder!

saw that on the schedule, and made a mental note to watch it. but my mental notes are not very stable. lol

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. I saw most of it last month...

it's very good. :)

discussion thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2931700

[liberaldemocrat7]

6. Considering that I drive an electric vehicle this appears academic to me.

I have 2 small motorcycles. One of them runs on electricity and the other runs on gasoline. I haven't used the gasoline bike since 2003.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. he works his way up to current events

and the Q & A is quite informative. :)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. that nasty O'Roarke is gone...

safe to turn it on now! lol

[mod mom]

4. I was lucky enough to have dinner w Edwin Black last month when he was in town

for a lecture. Very interesting man! Harvey Wasserman & Bob Fitrakis (freepress.org) were also there and it was a very in depth conversation on the need for changing our energy usage for national security reasons.

[shireen]

5. insightful people like them never get heard

except on CSPAN!

[mod mom]

9. He was in town for a book tour. My husband (in a sustainability group) is reading

the book and says it's great. BTW this lecture is a great history lesson.

[NotGivingUp]

10. that's the shame of it all n/t

[EstimatedProphet]

7. Is it on again?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. yep.

:)

[EstimatedProphet]

15. OK...can you tell me when?

Seriously, I can't get the C-SPAN website to work.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. oh!

It played last month too. I thought you were refering to that. :blush:

repeats Monday, January 15 at 12:05 am

here's the whole schedule...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3110232#3110251

:)

[EstimatedProphet]

19. I'll DVR it

[Viva_La_Revolution]

25. the video should be posted at CSPAN...

but it's not. :(

The History video archive there is almost non-existant as compared to the other programs.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. "Green" movement started in the 1600's

in England.


Detailing the history of the first energy crisis - wood. caused the shift to coal and the increase in polution...

[StrictlyRockers]

12. Thanks! Watching.

[StrictlyRockers]

13. Edwin Black sounds like a high school teacher.

I am not impressed yet.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. perhaps... but did you learn in High School that the Greeks discovered

electricity? Or that there are 4 types of Electricity?

[StrictlyRockers]

17. No, at least he has a lot of intersting info.

I didn't know the mile a minute record was set in 1899 in France by the Red Devil train, either.

He sounds like he is very used to lecturing to students...

SR

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. and he asks questions of the audience...

good technique actually, keeps the 'students' involved and attention focused.

:)

[StrictlyRockers]

22. Oh phooey.

If he keeps me involved and my attention focused I am less able to multi-task and do seven other things at once.

Gosh darn him for being interesting and having such interesting facts.

Henry Ford's deposition...hmm...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

21. "We don't have to re-invent the wheel, Ladies and Gentleman...

We just have to excavate it from where it was buried 100 years ago."

[NotGivingUp]

34. i loved that line!

[NotGivingUp]

23. wow...this is fascinating!!

[StrictlyRockers]

24. SF still has trolleys.

We call them cable cars...

:)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

26. Portland has restored some of the old cars and tracks...

and incorporated it into the public transit system. Very cool riding in those old cars. :)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

27. "Clean Natural Gas" is an Oxymoron...

like saying "Clean Natural Hairspray"

[StrictlyRockers]

29. The lobbies are working day and night.

"Trust your instincts before you trust a lobbyist on this issue."

[mod mom]

30. He admits CNG is a temporary fix, but it is available in our hemisphere. I didn't

agree with this aspect of what he preached. CNG is also a finite fossil fuel as we all know. There are other alternatives that I believe make better sense.

[StrictlyRockers]

31. Sugarcane ethanol?

It seems to be working in Brasil.

They are 100% energy independent.

,,,must be nice...

SR

[mod mom]

28. The answer is in purchasing fleets,

he contends that if there is a mass demand (ie fleets) for alternative (not hybrid-he dissed my Prius) vehicles the corporations will mass produce the vehicles. The technology is there.

[Strelnikov_]

32. "Hydrogen is what I'm betting our future on . . ."

Electric is what I'm betting my future on.

http://www.physorg.com/news85074285.html

[Junkdrawer]

33. Yes, Virginia...There are conspiracies to kill technologies and increase profits...

Happens all the time.

http://www.lovearth.net/gmdeliberatelydestroyed.htm