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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:19 PM
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Mo. boys found, but questions remain
This is strange. It seems the boy had a lot of chances to escape or at least tell someone he was abducted? Why didn't he try to get away for 4 years?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070113/ap_on_re_us/boys_found

Neighbors in the two-story, brick apartment complex said Devlin, a burly, 300-pound man with wire-rimmed glasses and a beard, hardly appeared to be keeping secrets. He had lifelong ties to this middle-class suburb of 26,000, family in the area and apparently no criminal record beyond a pair of traffic fines. He was often seen coming and going from his jobs at a pizza parlor and a funeral home, and nothing seemed odd about a teenager seen hanging around his place.

The landlord at the apartment, Bill Romer, said he was in the apartment once to fix a plumbing problem and saw the teen, apparently Hornbeck, sleeping.

"As far as I knew, that was his son living with him," Romer said. "The kid's bedroom didn't even have curtains on the windows."

Rick Butler, 43, who lives across the street, said he saw no evidence that the boy was scared or trying to get away. He even saw Devlin and the teen pitch a tent outside in the complex, which sits near railroad tracks and Interstate 44 in a working-class section of well-to-do Kirkwood.

"I didn't see or hear anything odd or unusual from the apartment," Butler said. "I just figured them for father and son."

Last fall, Butler said he found a cell phone outside, called a number on it and the teen came outside to retrieve it.

"Thanks a lot for the phone," he recalled the boy saying.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:27 PM
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1. the guy was a registered sex offender in Utah and TX
reported yesterday. There's no telling what he told this young man about his family ect.

And it's wonderful the young man did whatever he did to survive.

Let's not analyze his behavior and wait. Hope he turns out ok..certain it will takes years to straighten life out.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:32 PM
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3. I think "they" retracted that statement
My understanding is that this guy shares a name with a registered sex offender. I don't have links ... just going by what I heard on CNN (so, I could be wrong).
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:35 PM
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5. thanks
hadn't heard any updates...makes it even stranger. The funeral parlor thing is a bit creepy.
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:59 PM
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14. I heard that on the newscasts also etherealtruth. n/t
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Ayesha Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:28 PM
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2. Stockholm Syndrome
It's a type of brainwashing where the victim comes to care about the kidnapper. Initially, they have to cooperate in order to survive, but then they sort of get used to it. It's basically the same thing that happens with women who stay in abusive relationships, etc. I agree, it makes no sense to those not in that situation, nor do I think all people are vulnerable to developing it. I believe that I would rather fight and die...but who knows, none of us can say for sure how we would react in that situation.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:32 PM
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4. At 11 years old, he could easily been fooled into believing
his family was dead or some horrible tragedy had struck his family, or that this guy was his real dad, or any number of things to keep him in line and believing this was just his new situation in life.

I'm so glad both boys were found.



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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:36 PM
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6. Remember this kid was 11 when he was abducted
That's very young, and we don't know what Devlin did to him or threatened him with to make him accept his fate.

It was mentioned that at one time during her captivity, Elizabeth Smart heard her name being called by searchers and ignored it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:37 PM
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7. Why do people ask stupid questions?
I don't know, they just do. No matter how many times the affects of abuse are explained.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:43 PM
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19. .
:spray:

:thumbsup:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:38 PM
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8. Did you see the press conference with Shawn and his family?
:cry:

Oh my god!

His step-father is one amazing man. So well spoken and you can just see the love in his eyes for his son.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:16 PM
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15. i didnt see it. i heard about the father. how did the son look standing there?
lost? relieved? out of it? sad? happy?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:36 PM
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17. He's looks so happy and he's an adorable kid.
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 07:40 PM by ronnykmarshall
Look at some of these pics.




His mom is also a very articulate lady.



Shawn and his step-dad. Does anyone know what is the story about his father?





Mom's not letting go of her son for a LONG time.



Thank God this family has a happy ending to this nightmare.



This part was so sweet. His step-dad was saying that when they were taking him from from the police station (it was around 1am), Shawn said "can we stop at McDonalds?" ..... just like a kid, huh?



One of the many times his step-dad broke down during the press conference.



Isn't he just the cutest kid? I wonder what the story is behind the other ear and lip ring? The one photo when he was 11 showed one ear ring. I'm just curious what happend. I just pray that he or Ben were not abused by that mother fucker that took him. Just some random thoughts.




Another thing .... I was watching MSNBC and this ASSHOLE was bitching about the parents holding press conferences (both of the boys) .... I wanted to slap the fucking shit out of that asshole. Shawn's parents said that is was their SON'S choice to appear. PLUS he didn't want to speak and the press was very kind and respected that.



Mom and her son. Praise God for bringing them back together.




Ben Ownby, the other boy that was kidnapped



Ben w/ his family. His sister rocks with her black hair, huh?











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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:42 PM
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18. Thanks for all those pics ronnyk.
This is just an amazing story, isn't it? It's hard to look at these without crying tears of joy, isn't it?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:54 PM
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20. Thank god for a happy story, huh?
I mean we are all concerned with Iraq and fuckhead in the White House.

But to see this happen .... it just warms my heart and keeps my faith that things will be better.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:48 PM
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21. i really appreciate the picture. he makes good eye contact. pictures are important
he is allowing closeness, he seems relaxed in the touch of both parents. he is able to smile. the pictures feel good. thank you. i havent been able to turn on the news and watch. just feels like feeding the animal that our media has become, but i wanted to see the kids face so i really appreciate. good pictures.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:53 PM
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22. Thanks so much
Those are terrific pictures. I am so incredibly happy for these families. Child kidnappings has to be the worst thing in the world to endure, for everyone involved. I truly think I'd rather be in a war zone with my children, than in a mansion with them simply disappeared.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:39 PM
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9. parents say son's life was threatened
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:41 PM
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10. the boy needs a good psychologist at this time. NOT SPECULATION
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:19 PM
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16. Yes.
Why are kids who "could get away" constantly questioned? Probably the same reason kids as young as ten or eleven are treated as adults in the courts.

Kids are NOT the same as adults. They are POWERLESS and manipulable. Period.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:59 PM
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23. ya... but it could simply be curiosity of what will allow this situation
to create itself. i could sit and listen to the boy tell his experience and what he felt from beginning to end. not out of speculation, or place blame, or need for gorey detail, but because human behavior for me is fascinating and the more one hears the more understanding that can be had.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:45 PM
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11. pedophiles are expert manipulators
There's no telling what that boy has been through. This kind of speculation always strikes me as being similar to people asking what a woman might have done to avoid rape. Until you're in the shark's mouth, you can't know what you'd do.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:53 PM
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12. 100% correct n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:57 PM
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13. Thank you for making that excellent point!
We need to repeat the facts about sexual abuse (which always includes of emotional and psychological abuse)over and over again.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:33 PM
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24. I can never understand why the "news reports" seem to relish
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 10:34 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
putting little salacious spins on these stories. "No evidence the boy was scared or trying to get away." Yeah, an eleven year old secretly dreams about being torn away from his safe home by a three hundred pound greasy haired pervert who abuses him physically and mentally and threatens him daily with his life and/or the lives of his family.

I honestly wonder sometimes if the biggest sicko isn't the one writing the story.
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