Would you accept a Republican on a Democratic ticket? (WAPO Obama-Hagel)

[bluewave]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/12/AR2007011201956.html

In this article, Lanny Davis proposes a McCain-Hillary (yeah, right) or an Obama-Hagel ticket. Seems extremely unlikely. I wanted to see what DU thought about it.

Would you accept an Obama-Hagel ticket (or a Republican at all) under any circumstances?

Personally, I would if it gave us a better chance of winning, especially if a true-believer type like McCain were on the Repub ticket.

[smoogatz]

1. Fuck no.

Bipartisanship is bullshit. The Republicans are the Party of Bad Ideas. The sooner we're rid of them, the better.

[bullimiami]

2. not hagel. this man is deep in the whole voting machine rigging scheme

and he has supported immoral and criminal behavior by bushco.

[originalpckelly]

7. Oh yeah, those voting machines were really rigged...

:eyes:

If they were rigged, why did we win the election?

[helderheid]

15. Overwhelming turnout n/t

[vanboggie]

18. Rove screwed up

He "misunderestimated" the huge turnout on our side and we overwhelmed his programmed small margin of victory.

[mod mom]

26. Rove underestimated the margins they needed. They didn't want it to be soooo

obvious. Some estimate we should have won 50 seats.

[bullimiami]

50. do a little research into Hagels history and get back to me.

[blue cat]

3. Not no

but Hell No!

[bluewave]

9. Don't get me wrong, I hate the NeoThugs, but

what if the alternative was an insane man like McCain polling higher than us? I'll admit, I'm not a Constitutional expert when I say this, but I don't think Hagel could do much damage as a mere VP. (Unless the Senate is 50-50, then no.)

[tomp]

4. insanity.

pathological naivete.

[DURHAM D]

5. Not only no but hell no.

What in the world has happened to Lanny Davis?

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. NO!

[Mass]

8. NO - While Hagel is a lot better than McCain or Romney, he is still

a conservative. He is no Chafee or Snowe.

Read his voting record and ask yourself if you think this person would support an increase of the minimum wage, universal healthcare, ... and remember that a vice-president will become president should something happen.

[bluewave]

10. Do you think anyone on the other side is acceptable?

I'm mostly familiar with what Hagel says on TV. I don't know what's underneath so forgive my ignorance.

[Bucky]

23. The party of Lincoln Chafee is no more.

He's about all I'd accept. It's not that I think all Republicans are reprehensible. But I don't see the advantage to telling our entire party that we lack the talent to produce a complete ticket.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

11. A liberal Republican yes

but there are not many of those around. Party of Lincoln indeed.

[mvd]

12. No

Just think of what would happen if Hagel had to break ties. And there would be no chance of a unified message. Hagel has a bit of a conscience, but he's no Chafee.

[bluewave]

Would anyone accept Chafee?

Although he generates little buzz since he's from a state we'll win anyhow.

[mvd]

20. That would be interesting

He seems more liberal than say Shuler, who's a Democrat.

[Dirty Hippie]

13. I would consider it.

I would not rule anyone out on party affiliation alone.

[Sapphire Blue]

14. What does one win when one gives up one's beliefs, one's convictions, one's soul in the bargain?

[aquart]

21. Precisely.

Who is Lanny Davis and when did he get to be so stupid?

[bluewave]

22. I agree. But I truly think McCain would begin a nuclear holocaust

He makes Bush look sane by comparison. He obviously suffers from mental illness. If it's a choice of a Hagel VP or McCain with his finger on the Red Button...

[Sapphire Blue]

28. Why are you advocating for a repub VP on a DEMOCRATIC ticket?

A Democratic ticket would not have such a ridiculous choice as mccain or hagel. I can't imagine one looking to the repub party for a candidate... unless one were a repub... attempting, possibly to sabotage the Democratic Party.

[bluewave]

34. Just to win. That's it.

I'll do anything to get an anti-war Dem Prez in the WH. If he polls significantly higher than say, Edwards as VP (who gave Kerry nothing.) Any alternative is acceptable to McCain.

And the poorly veiled accusation is really immature. If you want to say something, then say it.

[Sapphire Blue]

36. That would be a very hollow, meaningless victory, one that I could not, would not support...

... or even consider. We will have numerous excellent Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election. I am a Democrat and will continue to vote as one.

That was no "poorly veiled accusation"; that was my honest opinion. "Immature"? Think what you will.

Perhaps you're campaigning for a repub VP on the wrong board.

[bluewave]

39. If we had numerous, excellent Democratic VP choices

I wouldn't even consider it. I'm anti-war before anything else.

I really don't care whether I'm welcome here by you.

[Rosemary2205]

16. NO

at one time I might have, but the Republicans can no longer be trusted with any power whatsoever. And quite frankly I'm not all that sure about the Democrats.

[doc03]

17. How about a LIEberman /McInsane ticket

:nuke:

[bluewave]

24. Never.

No matter what.

[aquart]

19. No. It's an obscenity.

[bullwinkle428]

25. We already tried that in 2000 - it just drove some of the most liberal of us

to vote for Nader (not me personally) throwing this country into the situation in which it finds itself now...

[koopie57]

27. Absolutely not

I have said repeatedly that there are too many strong, hard working and good democrats who deserve the chance to lead. They have hung it throughtout the bad times and I will support them. I'm not saying that cuz a person is a republican I won't support him/her, but I admire a strong democrat and I will always give them an opportunity.

[B Calm]

29. NO DAMN WAY I could never trust a republican

[CatholicEdHead]

30. Kucinich - Paul ticket?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

31. If The Person Running For Pres Who Wins The Primary Is A Dem, They Have My Vote.

Would I like them to choose a republican running mate? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no.

IF it happened, would I vote for the Dem anyway? Of course. The only alternative would be to vote for two republicans or even worse, a greeeeeen candidate :puke:

[Faryn Balyncd]

32. Cheney/Lieberman?? Now THAT'S the ticket.........

[BattyDem]

33. ABSOLUTELY NOT!

There are plenty of wonderful Democrats and if the party can't find TWO worthy people to fill a ticket, then why should I bother supporting that party? :shrug:

Besides ... I'd constantly be worried that the Democratic Prez would have one of those tragic "accidents" that always seem to happen to GOP opponents and the Repug VP would take charge. :scared:

[DawgHouse]

35. Oh hell no.

[Warren Stupidity]

37. Nope. nt.

[Hippo_Tron]

38. A bit of history, William Henry Harrison and Abraham Lincoln both chose Democratic running mates

That said, I don't see any point in putting a Republican in the #2 slot.

[AtomicKitten]

40. No thanks.

[stevedeshazer]

41. Lanny Fucking Davis can kiss my outside-the-beltway ass

I'm sick of these DC insiders trying to put together some construct that keeps them in power.

Guess what? I want progressive Democrats heading up the ticket, minus political opportunists from the DLC.

[ikojo]

42. There has been a Republican on a

Democratic ticket...his name was Joe Lieberman.

[qnr]

43. No, I wouldn't. However, I'm not against Republicans holding top Administration posts n/t

[WinkyDink]

44. HELL, NO X Avogadro's Number.

[geomon666]

45. We already tried that.

Gore/Lieberman. You saw how well that worked out.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

46. This is just nuts!!

After all that the Republicans have done for the last 50 years or so their "party" should be outlawed, not fawned over for the sake of "winning".

[Crunchy Frog]

47. Oh no, not this again.

I remember all the threads on here in '04 advocating a Kerry/McCain ticket. I can't believe this shit is starting again already.

Why do people think we need a Republican on the ticket to win?

[Crunchy Frog]

48. dupe.

[ellisonz]

49. Absolutely not.

:grr:

[in_cog_ni_to]

51. NO! We went through this same shit with Kerry McCain. NO! NO! NO! A repuke is a repuke

is a repuke is a repuke and will always be a repuke! NO!

[Raksha]

52. Hell no! n/t

[SmokingJacket]

53. No.

No, no, no and no.

[MAX 1]

54. We tried that already...

Gore/LIEberman...

But LIEberman was still in the closet.

[MODemocrat]

55. No, I would not accept a split ticket

We have enough democrats in the mill without reaching out to the republicans. I'll stay home on election day if that should happen.

[LeftishBrit]

56. Speaking as an outsider, so you can ignore me...

I'd be uneasy about that, unless the Republican had explicitly switched parties. Not because I hate all Republicans; there are some whom I respect quite a bit (I can't comment on Hagel, as I didn't even know who he was till a couple of weeks ago). But I just think that bipartisan tickets before an election seem undemocratic - as though the voters' choice is being pre-empted. To me, such coalitions are for dealing with the results AFTER a close election where no one has a clear majority; and forming a coalition between opposition parties BEFORE an election is like jumping to the result before the election, and not allowing the voters a proper choice. I may feel this way because I'm used to a different system; but that is my opinion.

Another concern: supposing such a ticket won, wouldn't that put the president at greater-than-normal risk of assassination by people who wanted to get the opposition party in?