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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:06 AM
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What can happen to YOU as a result of Bush's terrorist stuff
Interesting commentary in THE HARTFORD COURANT today by the lawyer for the photographer who was arrested while trying to take a photograph of governor Rell during her inaugural parade.

I tried to post snips but I keep losing my message when I try to navigate back and forth for cutting and pasting. Figured that the link was more important.

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/commentary/hc-commentarypattis0114.artjan14,0,4339460.story?coll=hc-headlines-commentary
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:22 AM
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1. Suggestion for posting clips
when I post snips from a news article or editorial, I generally grab the whole thing and paste it. Before I post, I go through and cut sections, putting ****snip**** or something like that in its place. That way I don't have to go back and forth and I can make sure that what I leave in is really the important stuff. Then I just go back for the link.

Hope this makes posting clips easier. :)
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:55 AM
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4. Thanks for the suggestion.
I try to do it that way too. I lost my post (after doing all the snips) when I went back to cut and paste the link. I'm also on a hotel wireless and I lose stuff when they make me sign in again when I'm in the middle of writing something.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:28 AM
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2. From the article (scary stuff)
Edited on Sun Jan-14-07 09:29 AM by annabanana
The era of "preventative detention" is upon us. . .

The officer takes your license and registration to his car. He enters your name into a database linked to his car by computer. A message flashes across his screen:

WARNING - APPROACH WITH CAUTION

THIS INDIVIDUAL IS ASSOCIATED WITH TERRORISM ...

USE CAUTION AND IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE TERRORIST SCREENING CENTER AT (866) 872-9001 FOR ADDITIONAL DIRECTION.

How did your name get on the list? You don't know. You may never know. Perhaps you were seen at an antiwar rally. Or perhaps you contributed money to a candidate or cause that some anonymous soul views as suspect. Like it or not, however, every law enforcement officer in the country now need only log onto his computer to learn that you are a suspect.

We saw how innocent acts become crimes at the inaugural parade for Gov. M. Jodi Rell this month. Ken Krayeske, a free-lance journalist, law student and former campaign director for Green Party gubernatorial candidate Cliff Thornton, was arrested there and charged with breach of peace and interfering with a police officer. Why? He was taking pictures of the parade.


on Edit: Recommended
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:37 AM
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3. Great Commentary thx for the link
I especially like this closing paragraph.

"I did not pledge allegiance to a national-security state. We proclaim in the federal Constitution's preamble that "we the people" created government for limited ends, to assure our life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

"Live free or die," read license plates in New Hampshire. These are words to live by. When did we yield the freedom to be let alone to bureaucrats who decide without meaningful review who is and is not a threat? More important, who regulates the men and women sitting up nights deciding who among us to include on lists that can transform innocent conduct into crimes?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:45 AM
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5. very frightening when placed next to yesterdays news that the pentagon was expanding it's
surveillance of american citizens....

k&r
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:43 AM
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6. crux of the story
"We saw how innocent acts become crimes at the inaugural parade for Gov. M. Jodi Rell this month. Ken Krayeske, a free-lance journalist, law student and former campaign director for Green Party gubernatorial candidate Cliff Thornton, was arrested there and charged with breach of peace and interfering with a police officer. Why? He was taking pictures of the parade.

Of course, that is no crime. But before the parade began, Hartford police officers were told by the Connecticut Intelligence Center and the Connecticut State Police Central Intelligence Unit that a number of political activists posed a threat to the governor.

These intelligence groups are part of the new state-federal security network that is sharing information about all manner of things that can go bump in the night. The state police had photographs of the activists listed as threats. Krayeske's picture was among them.

<b>Ken Krayeske was not arrested for taking pictures. He was arrested because he was on a list of potential threats</b>. His innocent conduct took on a sinister cast when viewed through the secret lens of suspicion."


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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:49 AM
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7. More on Krayeske
Check out this clip of Norm Pattis TV appearance with Rep. Lawler. http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=52EE4F6EE6CB6CCD9C11C504C6CC9DE0?diaryId=5347

Myleftnutmeg is a great source of info on CT politics.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 02:01 PM
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8. When you run around the world with neocon diplomacy
They expect retaliation, enter homeland security, but just like everything else they attempt they screw it up and besides they got one hell of a nerve putting us in this position to start with.

This neocon agenda got to go.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:00 PM
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9. kick
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:06 PM
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10. a happy post election story: I'm not on the list any more
For the past several years, whenever I've flown, I couldn't check in online or at the kiosk in the airport because I (or someone with my name) was on the watch list. So when I gave the woman at the counter my reservation number and she put it in the computer she would frown and have to go in back to call somebody, sometimes stopping to whisper to her supervisor and point at me. Then she'd come back and say I could get on.

This Christmas when I went to fly NOTHING happened (apart from having to strip to a thong like everyone else).

Is this a coincidence or related to Democrats win in November? I prefer to hope it's the latter.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 03:11 PM
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11. Get used to this.
This is your America now. I'm trying to but I'm having great difficulty. I don't think I can but I have no choice and none for my sons for I don't have any power as a citizen of the United States. I firmly believe a permanent shift has occurred.
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