"I loathe Lieberman with the power of a thousand white hot suns."

[Bluebear]

by Cenk Uygur


We we right. The people of Connecticut should have never trusted Joe Lieberman. One third of Democratic voters in Connecticut voted for Lieberman in the general election against Ned Lamont. And they screwed the whole country. We could have had a real Democrat in that seat. Or at least someone who isn't madly in love with George Bush. I wish Joe knew how to quit him.

First, Senator Lieberman pretended to be a concerned moderate on Iraq during the election and then immediately showed how extreme he is right after the election. There was no more talk about finding the best possible way out of Iraq. Instead, Lieberman immediately embraced escalation.

How many Democratic votes do you think Lieberman would have gotten in Connecticut if he had been honest and told the voters that he planned to support an escalation of the Iraq War as soon as he was elected? Not very many. That's why he had to lie, like he always does.

If you think that's too harsh, you haven't seen the latest news. During the 2006 election, Lieberman promised to hold hearings on how the Bush administration handled Hurricane Katrina if he was elected. He would be the head of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. He would be the one that would make the decision on what hearings to hold and what documents to demand from the White House. He promised he would hold them accountable. Of course, as always he was lying. Instead, he has just announced that he will hold no such hearings and that he will ask for none of the documents that could show how the administration mishandled the crisis. Heaven forbid that he should do his job....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/we-were-right-about-joe-l_b_38615.html

[Stephanie]

1. Why can't a Senator be impeached for lying about his position on the issues?

There should a lemon law for politicians.

[halobeam]

11. Can the voters that voted for him SUE him for outright lying????

Something needs to give here. If there isn't a law, can we fight for the right law that this doesn't happen again?

[jeff30997]

2. "thousand white hot suns"?

:shrug: ?

[Kagemusha]

3. Sounds like a comic book reference.

Or a passing attempt at one.

[jeff30997]

4. Yeah,like Superman or something!

[Kagemusha]

8. More like The Sentry

Wiki it if you care.

[Bluebear]

6. Read: searing

[Crunchy Frog]

25. It's a "Cheers" reference.

Something that Diane Chambers said to Sam Malone.

[Babel_17]

44. Dr. Cox from Scrubs .....

coined the term "mega-loathe" for people and things that go beyond regular loathing. :)

Figured you might appreciate the trivia.

[rudy23]

46. I remember that, I was just about to type it! : ) nt

[Crunchy Frog]

48. I found the exact line.

DIANE: "I hate you with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns!!"
SAM: "somebody's cranky.."

:)

[rodeodance]

5. gee, do you think the Minority will hold Katrina hearings in the

basement?????????????????

Seriously, what Can be done?

[Nite Owl]

7. The CT GOP paid dearly

to get him elected, it was obvious during the election who was supporting him so how can they be shocked now that he is doing what he is? The dem leaders who did not support Lamont, who figured that we won no matter who won that race sold us all out and I would like to know why they did that. I'm not buying the 'if only we knew then what we know now' argument again from them.

[CTyankee]

50. I would love to ask those "I'm stickin' with Joe" sign displayers during

the general campaign if they're happy now. They can't be happy with his cheerleading Bush on the war and the Katrina deal. I'm sure they thought that Joe was at least ethical and honorable. Now they must know the awful truth and it's got to hurt. I'm just sorry that their bad karma is everybody's now. And it's their fault for enabling him.

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[Skidmore]

12. My poor husband sees that freak on teevee and sez

everytime, "I can't believe I voted for that SOB once." This morning he added, "I would have been better off if I had just shot myself in the head."

Lieberman is not well thought of in our home.

[Behind the Aegis]

19. More bullshit!

How is that some here can't simply hate Lieberman without making it into some false bullshit about "dual loyalties?" Get a fucking a grip!

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. Lieberman has turned out to be a low-life scumbag.

How can he use so many people for his own personal benefit, and still call himself an orthodox anything? Or do you think that has something to do with it?

[tavalon]

37. Turned out to be?

His party was called Connecticut for Lieberman, not Lieberman for Connecticut. Consider that a clue by four.

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[bpeale]

14. Recall

can't he be recalled by the citizens of connecticut?

[fooie]

16. Hey Las Cruces

Greetings from Tularosa, and contrats on Nate's election.

[hippiechick]

18. I wonder the same thing ...

:shrug: Any CT election/constitutional wonks here tonight?

[mcscajun]

26. Nope. CT has no recall provision.

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legismgt/elect/recallprovision.htm

[stevedeshazer]

15. I must confess,

I too loathe Joe Lieberman, extra-especially positively after he gave Bush a pass on letting New Orleans drown. Watching him on Meet The Press today was like sitting buck naked on a nest of fire ants. My contempt for Joe approaches that of the Decider's contempt for people like you and me. Every time I see that he's gone on Sean Hannity's little hatefest, every time I see him step in front of a camera, every time I hear him whine on some phony news outlet, I break out in a rash of horrifying little blisters that seem to pop up with Joe-pus.

Okay, I feel slightly better now. But I'm still pissed off after seeing his smiling mug on my television catapulting the revolting Bush propaganda. Ugh.

[annabanana]

17. What we know of Lieberman should be filtered through

our knowledge of this organization (The new PNAC)
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

[stevedeshazer]

20. Great link

Thanks. Now I won't be able to sleep for weeks.

:scared:

[Golden Raisin]

21. What the hell is Chuck Schumer

doing with these folks? There are some genuine skunks in there (Zell Miller, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Newt Gingrich).

[IndyOp]

23. And Donna Brazile? WTF?

Donna Brazile
Campaign Manager, Democratic strategist
Gore 2000

:puke:

[Zhade]

27. Remember, she's a self-admitted "close friend" of Rove.

NT!

[Straight Shooter]

29. Yes. Donna Brazile, stealth saboteur extraordinaire. n/t

[blm]

35. Is it all starting to make sense to people, now? They had no intention of a lefty Dem winning

the oval office in 2004 or Connecticut senate in 2006. They NEED to keep the left Dems pushed aside so they have no say while the coverup Dems are tapped to advance.

In 2008 the only Dems the establishment powerbase will support fully is another coverup Dem like Clinton. Protecting secrecy and privilege is a Bush-Clinton game.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[Skidmore]

36. I think you are correct and we need to get out ahead on this one.

We've done it before. It is even now more evident that Hillary is not to be trusted.

[blm]

54. Doesn't help when 'some senate staffers' jump on the pile attacking our left leaders.

Those anonymous Dems always have something to say that boosts the BULLSHIT from the RW lie machine.

[Skidmore]

22. A veritalble rogues gallery,,,,and note that

it's board has Donna Brazile and Chuck Schumer on it too besides the usual full complement PNAC suspects.

Board of Directors


Steve Forbes
Dr. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Jack Kemp


Distinguished Advisors


Judge Louis J. Freeh
Fmr. Director of the FBI
Sen. Joseph Lieberman
(D-CT)
U.S. Senate


Newt Gingrich
R. James Woolsey


Board of Advisors

Gary Bauer
Bill Kristol
Donna Brazile
Hon. Richard D. Lamm
Rep. Eric Cantor
Rep. Jim Marshall
Rep. Eliot Engel
Sen. Zell Miller
Frank Gaffney
Richard Perle
Amb. Marc Ginsberg
Steven Pomerantz
Charles Jacobs
Sen. Charles E. Schumer
Charles Krauthammer

Senior Fellows


Khairi Abaza
Andrew C. McCarthy
Avi Jorisch
Barbara Newman
Samer Libdeh
Dr. Walid Phares
Mario Loyola
Victoria Toensing

Adjunct Fellows


Dr. Jonathan Adelman
Agota Kuperman
Richard Z. Chesnoff
Dr. J. Peter Pham
Paul Crespo
Jess Sadick
Tanya Gilly
Dr. Frederic Smoler
Orde Kittrie
Jan Ting
Michael I. Krauss

Staff

Tony Badran
Claudia Rosett
Amb. Richard W. Carlson
David Silverstein
Mark Dubowitz
Jonathan L. Snow
Eleana Gordon
Senior Vice-President
Jean Thurman
Clifford D. May
Alykhan Velshi
Bill McCarthy
Caitlyn Walters
Coordinator, Campus Programs
Cara Rosenthal
Senior Manager, Development
Dan Wilson

[malaise]

31. Well the good news is that

they have one dead Board member.

[PassingFair]

34. OMG Donna Brazile!

THATS where that viper ended up.

And the COMPANY she's keeping!

Thanks for that link, it's bookmarked!

[DemBones DemBones]

56. There are four "Distinguished Advisors" listed.

They are Louis J. Freeh (former FBI Director), Newt Gingrich (former Speaker of the House, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) -- shouldn't that be I-CT??? -- and R. James Woolsey, Fmr. Director of CIA. Great group!

Bill Kristol, Richard Perle, and Frank Gaffney were all PNAC signatories, IIRC.

Sen. Charles Schumer???? Interesting. . .

Donna Brazile? I knew she was not really a Democrat. She and Holy Joe really did a job on President Gore.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

24. Having Hannity shill for your campaign should be Sign #1

That you are NOT to be trusted.

I am sure there are plenty of others, but none that scream in Neon quite like this.

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[fooie]

32. Delete my membership

Please.


The role of the Israeli right wing in lobbying for the US invasion of Iraq is a legitimate topic. Iraq was never a threat to the US. Only to Israel.


This is my last post.

[mvd]

49. I know you're not here anymore

But I'll defend the admins here a bit. Yes, AIPAC has too much influence on both Republicans and Democrats. As do other lobbies like the NRA. It affects getting a truly neutral policy in the Middle East, as I think there's wrong on both sides. But it seems a bit much to me to say that the whole Congress is controlled or that people have duel-loyalties.

[Bluebear]

33. Well, you're addressing me, not the administrators

You should definitely make your complaint known to the board owners, not within a thread like this. good luck.

[Olney Blue]

30. If this is what a "centrist" looks like, God help us.

[ourbluenation]

38. We have a little thing in Cali called a Recall...can you CT'rs do the same?

Please?

[CTyankee]

51. I don't know if we can, altho I bet lots of people would like to.

New England states don't seem to have the Recall "functionality."

Can you really recall a U.S. Senator from your state? Has it ever been done?

[WillyT]

39. Yep... K & R !!!

:puke:

[EFerrari]

40. Yeah. Me, too.

:rofl:

[indepat]

41. I loathe Liberman even more

[Leopolds Ghost]

42. Lieberman HAD to keep his seat or the INSURANCE Cos. would abandon the Dem party.

That's just the reality of the situation, and people in power know it.

That's why New Orleans has been abandoned.

Any deal to help the people of New Orleans must bail out the Insurance Cos and insure that premiums for poor black people go up, or else they will not be allowed to return to their homes.

That's why we have laws in this country designed to prevent people from buying a house or car without mandated private insurance coverage - and in some states, mandated private health insurance.

Mandated premiums, mandated profits for a chosen few firms.

Masscare, Hillarycare, all opponents of single-payer, all in opposition to reining in insurance cos.

That's why Andres Duany, the famous urban theorist,
was hired by Haley Barbour to restore the Gulf Coast.

He promptly declared that "in the future, only rich people
will be allowed to live south of the RR tracks."

I kid you not. He elaborated: The insurance premiums on their environment-destroying, "neotraditional" beachfront condos will be too high. It would be positively cruel to ask the previous owners and renters to return, only to be hit with the new, higher premiums and code
requirements mandated by law -- laws written by insurance cos in Louisiana and Mississippi -- they will be forced to sell.

To rich people who can afford the premiums, of course.

Nothing we can do about THAT -- right?

[tnlefty]

43. Ah, yes the 1/3 of CT democrat voters who voted for this loathsome

POS. I never forget those voters when I'm despising Joe. That's when I'm breathing, mopping my kitchen floor, doing laundry, attending meetings. etc.

Added to that list are a few democrats (supposed) who wrote op-eds that appeared in the right side of the local rag above a piece that Novak wrote about supporting LIEberman. I refuse to be in the same room at local gatherings with these people.

[JanusAscending]

45. I think the Democratic Senate ought to take his

"Chair" away and give it to a real Democrat! However many committees he serves on, kick his ass off!! Hell, he's just a # who is going to blackmail us sooner or later anyhow. I say SOONER, and for us to do it! Take away his power, and he becomes "just 1 vote" Right???

[rudy23]

47. I'm telling you, the emails that Joe is hiding, are holding the keys to impeachment nt

[mvd]

52. If Lieberman leaves the party, there go his election chances IMO

Connecticut Republicans and right-leaning Independents will gravitate to the real Republican. So I'm not so worried about treating him with kid gloves.

[raysr]

53. Lieberman=protector of Israel

[Arugula Latte]

55. I can't post what I want to say about Joe Lieberman.

Suffice it to say, it ain't kindly toward Traitor Joe.

[DemBones DemBones]

57. Neither can I.

But not because it's too flattering!