I was watching Thomas Ricks interviewed this weekend and he said something disturbing..

[LSK]

He was being interview on CNBC Sat night by Russert and near the end of the interview he said that if we dont get Iraq right now, what will happen is Iraq in 10 years will be a terrorist haven state with WMD - exactly what Bush painted it as in 2002 when it was no such thing.

The way things are going, I think he might be right.

The Bush admin has NO FUCKING CLUE how to deal with this situation and if we leave I fear there will be massive genocide committed by al-Sadr and his militia against the Sunnis. To make matters worse, we are supporting the Maliki Government which will do nothing about al-Sadr. I just dont see how that could be stopped and it is happening even right now as we speak.

With Genocide being committed on the Sunnis, what will Sunni countries such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia and even Syria do??? Then what would Iran do in retaliation?? This could erupt into a massive regional war.

And who would be blamed on this massive war and genocide when all is said and done? The Bush admin and the United States. Now Al Queda can step in and have a recruitment field day.

What I find equally disturbing is that there is a large segment of the population who has no clue that this is a civil war and this is still a fight versus terrorists. You try talking to them about it and they get lost when you start saying words like Sunni and Shiite. On the other side, we have people wanting out of Iraq and damn the consequences. I tend to side with these people only because we are currently doing NOTHING productive in Iraq at the moment.

I am starting to think that the Iraq Study Group had it right by emphasizing a massive regional diplomatic effort involving talking to ALL NATIONS in the region. Unfortunately, this is NOT POSSIBLE with the Bush administration. They flatly refuse to talk to Iran and Syria.

This leads me to conclude that Impeachment is the best course of action. We need a President and State Department that will TALK TO Iran and Syria and we need them now. We also need the best minds in the world working on this and instead we have the 3 Stooges.

[Buzz Clik]

1. This is why daddy left Saddam in power.

[brazos121200]

2. You hit the nail on the head. If we get out now the shiites will massacre the sunnis,

if we stay more Americans will die along with the Iraquis. If we leave the Saudis have told Cheyney they will invade Iraq to save their fellow sunnis. No matter what we do now, it is unacceptable, and whatever we do now, more Iraquis will die. The administration has created a Pandora's box of unacceptable alternatives.
In the meantime, Iraqui women are losing the freedoms thay had under Saddam. The new shiite government is likely to require fundamentalist reforms in the near future regarding women, like requiring the burka for all women, and withdrawing women's right to engage in business and politics. Bush has brought a muslim fundamentalist nightmare to Iraq just like he would like to bring a Christian fundamentalist nightmare to this country.

[azurnoir]

3. I think * or those surrounding him

know exactly what they are doing the destabilization of the region is the goal, as it allow a permanent military presence.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/08/iraq-oil.html

[MissWaverly]

4. Not to mention a new "Cold War"

to fatten the purses of the war lobby (excuse me: defense contractors)

[LSK]

5. then there is that disturbing train of thought that they like this violence

That the people who should be solving this violence and war in the middle east actually like it and need it to feed their war machine.

[brazos121200]

7. But the war is now hurting the Republican party and the Bush

administration politically. The public has grown weary of the war and a clear majority now support a quick pullout. Witness the 2006 election results. I don't think Rove and company would do ANYTHING to hurt their party, no matter what. That is what has kept them in power for so long. I don't see how they are going to be able to turn this around win the 2008 elections if we are still there.

[LSK]

8. at this point, he doesnt care, he has no more elections to win

Also, I dont see this as ending by 2008.

[brazos121200]

10. That's why you are starting to see so many Repubs who are facing

elections in '08 becoming more and more critical of the president's stance on the war. They know they will face dismal re-election chances if the war is still raging. There is a chance that Repubs in the Senate and in the House (who are ALL facing re-election races) my turn against the administration en masse. If this happens, when the investigations start turning up malfeasance in office by Bush and his henchmen, they may be more amenable to considering the dreaded word 'Impeachment'.

[azurnoir]

9. I truly don't think *

gives a rats heine about the GOP, his use for them is done it was done after the '04 election.

[NewJeffCT]

6. well, the RW meme on not negotiating

is because Syria & Iran don't have our best intersts at heart.

WAHH!

What a bunch of crybabies.

Did the Soviets have our best interests at heart when Reagan negotiated with them? And, Carter, Ford and Nixon before him? What about during the Cuban Missile Crisis?