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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:03 PM
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The statement that pisses me off most from the 60 Minutes interview
"Everybody was wrong on WMDs".

No, sir, I was not wrong; Scott Ritter was not wrong; Dennis Kucinich was not wrong; my mother's priest was not wrong; Keith Olberman was not wrong. Millions upon millions of people all around the world were not wrong and many of them told you who WAS wrong, but you chose to not listen to reason or facts and you invaded anyway.

You, sir, are the one who was wrong.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:04 PM
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1. Exactly why I can't watch him
I would have wrecked several tv's by now.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:14 PM
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7. My sister and I used to shoot pop guns at him on TV.
It made two little old ladies feel so much better. Our children got them for us.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:36 PM
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12. I like your kids.
:toast:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:09 PM
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21. I have a dart gun....
ready at all times. I try not to view the son of a bitch at all but sometimes he creeps through my defense shields and I have to pop him. It leaves little circles on the TV screen so I can tell how good my aim is. :)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:22 PM
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25. I was going to get a Bush bean bag to throw against the screen
But after my last attempt to watch one of his speeches with a Bingo card, I realized nothing could make watching him worth the grief.

It's not as if I need to know what he says. None of it is true, and the corporate media will repeat it ad nauseam, anyway.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:24 AM
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32. Even if he does not talk truth you sort of have to know.
He is just taking over like an autocrat so one has to know what he is doing in our name. Did you read about the Fed. judge he just put into Ak. He is still going right around Congress and all these new guys are real far right nut cases.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:07 AM
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37. Speechless
How'd he get the judge past Congress? Leahy says that kind appointment isn't going to get out of committee.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:00 AM
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35. Sounds like a great opportunity for an entrepreneur.
Or does someone already make something to throw at the TV when the Twerp is on? I usually just throw magazines or change the channel, but if I had a little basket of Bush-Blasters next to my couch, I could fire them at the screen whenever Smirky Decider reared his ugly head!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:06 AM
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36. I bought a Bush voodoo doll from a caller on AAR
Unfortunately, it was cheap plastic. You couldn't get pins into it, and the head came off after I smashed it a couple of times against a table top.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM
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39. Just count it as the "Two-Minutes Hate".
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:06 PM
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2. And Scott let him slide no doubt
I didn't watch except a few minutes. I can't stomach Bush** or the continuous stream of lies the corporate media whores fail to challenge him on.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:22 AM
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43. our media just sucks, they should be impeached also
they are no better than this regime.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:06 PM
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3. Hans Blix was right as well
He knew what Saddam did have left was degraded and useless by that point.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:08 PM
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4. Yes, I see that statement all over, in newspaper columns, LTTEs and so forth. PROPAGANDA.
Very effective when people see it over and over like this without it being challenged.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:08 PM
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5. Everyone in his "bubble"...
was wrong... but they knew at the time they were wrong and trying with all their might to deceive Congress, all Americans and as much of the world as they could.

So yes, they were "wrong", intentionally wrong!
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:21 PM
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8. BINGO
It never mattered to any of them whether the intel was right or wrong.
They lied their way to power and riches beyond our wildest imaginings. *THAT * is all that matters to them.

Impeachment wouldn't even matter. They have what they wanted; oil and water rights for generations to come.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:04 PM
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19. Intentionally. Wrong. Gosh...
:wow: But that means it...it was a LIE!!! :sarcasm:

:banghead: :wishes there was a scream icon:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:10 PM
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22. Yes, exactly
"Everyone" to Shrub is that small group of toadies, sycophants and yes-men who nod (bob?) vigorously at every pronouncement he makes, then cheer wildly.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:08 PM
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6. K + R
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:27 PM
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9. If they had real evidence, what they should have had
they would have showed it to the American people and not wrung their hands about it, we
were fooled, that's an unbelievable excuse for a leader of a superpower, he's is
supposed to have accurate information, we went into an unprovoked war which we are
now losing based on a lie.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:31 PM
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10. Everyone wanted to continue inspections - except for Chimp
If every nation on the Security Council thought inspections should proceed, it would suggest they weren't positive that Saddam had WMD at all.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:36 PM
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11. "al-Zarqawi was in Iraq. But rather than debating the past, let me get back to the question. "
who cares about the past, what's done is done :mad:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/14/60minutes/main2359119_page5.shtml

<snip>

PELLEY: I wonder if you feel like you've been ill-served by your Cabinet members, Mr. Rumsfeld, perhaps even Vice-President Cheney. Wrong on WMD. Wrong on the connection between 9/11 and Iraq. And now you're in a fix. And I wonder if you look back and wonder who let you down.

BUSH: Let me correct something on this connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. That was never the case in this administration. You know, I always said we never had evidence that Saddam Hussein ordered the attacks on 9/11. And so I don't know who continues to say that.

PELLEY: The vice-president suggested there was a connection, not necessarily 9/11, but certainly to al-Qaeda.

BUSH: al-Zarqawi was in Iraq. But rather than debating the past, let me get back to the question.

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:38 PM
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13. Is that why our long-time allies, France and Germany, refused to go?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:45 PM
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16. BUSH: "al-Zarqawi was in Iraq."
The Asshole fails to mention that the US Forces could have killed him before the Illegal Invasion but decided to allow him to build up his group in order to have an al Q. presence within Iraq to point to.

Bushlini is a War Criminal. He needs to be Impeached ASAP!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:54 PM
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18. He always also fails to mention Zarqawi was in KURDISTAN...
under US PROTECTION.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:38 PM
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14. the UN was not wrong France was not wrong IAEA was not wrong MOST of Europe was not wrong
Rewriting history as we go, eh?
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:41 PM
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15. Anybody but myself notice
how much he looked like Pat Robertson, spooky.:crazy:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:52 PM
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17. 52% of the AMERICAN public; "Bush has NOT made his case"
Even the US MAJORITY knew it was bullshit, bush.

December 17, 2002

Poll: Bush hasn't made case for Iraq war


More than two-thirds of Americans believe the Bush administration has failed to make its case that a war against Iraq is justified...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-12-17-iraq-poll_x.htm



http://www.americans-world.org/digest/regional_issues/Conflict_Iraq/multilat_support.cfm

Poll: Majority of Americans oppose unilateral action against Iraq

...without U.N. approval and allies, only about a third of the public would support a war with Iraq.
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/001415.html



US Public Want to Give UN Inspectors More Time

Seven in 10 Americans would give U.N. weapons inspectors months more to pursue their arms search in Iraq, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll that found growing doubts about an attack on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

Fifty-eight percent said they would like to see more evidence, and 71 percent said the United States should make public its own evidence if the U.N. inspectors can't find hard evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

In one clear sign of public caution on Iraq, 43 percent of respondents said the U.N. inspectors should have as much time as they like to scour Iraq. A quarter said the inspectors should have "a few months" or more. Another quarter supported a deadline of a few weeks or less for the inspections.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A23564-2003Jan21


Just beause freepingly ignorant rightwingnut Republics were stupid enough to fall for the bushit doesn't mean the US majority ever were.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:35 PM
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46. Lynn...Thanks for this info !! I had ever seen some of this -
the chart. "Good Evidence Needed" (no weapons - 62% no military action)...This should have told them (Bush and Cheney)right then - that they had better damn well find something or they would lose all support. That was why they tried so hard to manufacture evidence. And then, when they couldn't do that, they kept coming up with new reasons.

Hell, they probably knew all along and had a decision tree already established. Plan A, Plan B, etc.

One thing they did have going for them was a disinterested public. It has taken until know for the groundswell - BUT the ignorance lasted through 2004 election which was all they needed.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:04 PM
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20. His job is to find the truth. He did not and is not doing his job. FIRE HIM!
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 05:06 PM by The Wielding Truth
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 AM
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44. he just does not care about the truth, he was playing us then
and he is playing us now with Iran.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:18 PM
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23. A pre-emptive war launched ostensibly because of WMDs would surely be unlaunched
when known not to be the case if WMDs were the real reason: could the real reason then be the oil, the several trillions dollars worth of oil?
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:19 PM
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24. "Iraqis Should Be Grateful"
... that, I thought, was the most sickening line in the presentation.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:22 PM
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26. He had to say "Everybody"
because that means "we".

He can not admit he is ever wrong.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:23 PM
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27. it's what I have always said about the WMD thing though
It's hard to prove he is lying. However, most of his statements about tax cuts and tax revenues are clearly lies. So yeah, we KNOW Bush is not honest. We do not think it. We KNOW it.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:25 PM
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28. Lie #1 NOBODY was wrong on WMDs.
Rummy/Cheney knew there were no WMDs back in 1996. We here at DU knew it back in 2002. Everyone, even the 13% droolcup artists, NOW know that there were none. Continue to flap about a little bit more George. No one will ever vote for a Republican president again.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:30 PM
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29. Right. I also resented this statement
"the parents (of the dead soldiers) tell me not to let their son's death be in vain."
Really. ALL the parents say that....doubtful.
I do know that rightwing radio has been spouting that line for months.
But Bush just had to make sure and get that talking point in during his 60 Minutes interview.
I imagine at least a good portion of that group says "you lied us into a war that cost my son's life. Yes, he volunteered. But you abused your authority on how our troops have been deployed. You have continually ignored the advise of more experienced statesmen, generals, and the American public. You have been negligent and careless with our military."
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:32 PM
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30. That pisses me off too
because I for one KNEW there was NO WMD! :mad:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:38 PM
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31. It's on par with "nobody predicted the levees would fail" and, my personal favorite,....
"nobody predicted they would fly airplanes into buildings"
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:43 AM
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33. bush wasn't "wrong" about WMDs. HE *LIED* about WMDs.
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:52 AM
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34. Hmmm...would that "everybody" be the same "nobody" who thought the levees would break?
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 08:53 AM by WritersBlock

This is *your* doing, Dumbya.

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM
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38. Michael Moore wasn't wrong either.
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM by Beelzebud
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:14 AM
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40. Mohammed El-Baradei was not wrong, either
El-Baradei is the head of the IAEA and eventually won a little thing called the Nobel Prize. I'd think that grants him at least a bit of credibility...

(and, even a bit of credibility is way more than all of Team Bush, combined)
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:14 AM
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41. That Pissed Me Off, Too.
When I heard that * had said that, I got really really pissed off.

Because there were several people (like me, for instance) who were not wrong on WMD's.

HE was the one who was wrong.

HE was the one who tried -- very hard -- to mislead millions of people into believing what was not true.

HE was the one who, because of his nasty little fantasy, has caused the deaths of millions of people.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:16 AM
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42. he will never admit his mistakes, he always blames someone
else.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:20 PM
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45. The sad thing is that in america the more you repeat the lie
the sooner it becomes true. Let me guess, no objections for the fair and balanced 60 minutes when Bush said this? Didn't think so.
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