Richard Wolfe says the GOP is near telling Chimpy "it's over"

[CatWoman]

:scared:

on edit: On Scarborough Country

the GOP is near revolt.

story in Newsweek.com.

I'll find it.

here it is: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16610773/site/newsweek/

[H2O Man]

1. Yep.

Things are coming to a head.

[aquart]

17. Wait till they find out George intends to ignore them.

I will bet money that George treats them exactly like he did Baker.

[H2O Man]

19. I think they know

that Bush has rejected the Baker Commission's recommendations outright. That's why they are beginning to put pressure on.

[Kahuna]

30. That's right. There is only one way they can stop the chimp. That

one way is to impeach chimp and cheney.

[H2O Man]

32. The only way

to revive our democracy is to exercise the muscles of the Constitution. It's time.

[IndyOp]

47. Your personal assessment of the likelihood that he could be forced to resign -

by the GOP - in some sort of deal in which the whole administration steps down and Hagel steps in?

I am asking because, as much as anything, Nixon stepped down not because of impeachment, but because behind-the-scenes wrangling in the GOP forced him to accept the inevitable.

My fantasy is that we can get him out of there before going on to investigate every single person below him who should never, never serve in government again. I made a point of complementing Hagel's harsh statements about escalation when I called the Foreign Affairs Committee last week.

What do you think H20 Man?

Peace.

[H2O Man]

50. Good question.

I think that at this point, the republicans in question are pressuring Bush to not take the path that the Office of the Vice President and the neoconservatives are advocating. I believe that there may be a growing number of republicans who are likely to support Congressional investigations that put real pressure on the administration in that area. But I am under the impression that a growing number in the House and Senate are concluding that Bush is increasingly out of touch with reality, and unstable. It strikes me that he exhibits some of the strange behaviors that LBJ did in '67 and early '68.

Strange times.

[janx]

57. By strange behaviors, are you referring to his vacant expression,

his snapping replies to media, and his overall demeanor? His inability or refusal to listen to Congress? I ask because I was too young to remember what LBJ exhibited in the 60s.

[H2O Man]

61. When LBJ was under

the extreme pressures in mid-1967 up until he decided not to run in '68, he became extremely paranoid. In his RFK book, Schlesinger tells of a ride with Bill Moyers, where the WH aide explains how LBJ has become isolated. He believed that everyone who disagreed with him either was out for political gain, or held a personal grudge (two very LBJ behaviors!). He began to see huge conspiracies led by RFK and MLK, and believed that people around him who agreed with them on anything had betrayed him.

[janx]

71. Wow.

It's not impossible to surmise that the Chimp might be paranoid at this point. He looks awful. The upcoming Libby trial isn't going to help his state of mind, either.

[H2O Man]

104. Right.

The Libby trial will not be a benefit to the administration.

One thing that should be remembered in this discussion: I see a number of posts on this thread that are about the possibility that he will resign. None of the republicans are suggesting Bush should resign. They are opposed to his escalation of troops in Iraq, for a number of reasons. But they are not speaking to Bush in the same sense that Goldwater & Co spoke to Nixon. Rather, they are speaking to him in the way that some democrats spoke to LBJ in '67.

[godless]

123. Bush's odd behavior

The Voice Of The White House claims that the master chimp was sedated during his Surge speech. He has never been connected to reality in any real sense and chose to surround himself with "yesmen" from the get-go, but even he has got to be rattled by the way his applecart is totally self-destructing now. Impeachment is a given for him and all of his loser pals, but more appropriate still are criminal investigations into everything this colossally corrupt creep has been up to since he cheated his way into the Oval Office. The man belongs in either a padded prison cell or swinging by the neck alongside his former ally, Saddam.

[bobbolink]

75. I'm not sure what you are saying--*not* investigating them all?

Is that what you are saying?

Cuz I want to see investigations of the whole herd!

Scrubbing and cleaning like it's perpetual spring! :hi:

[IndyOp]

81. Start the investigations and continue them to completion. At the same time...

Get the whole administration to step down so that they can do no more harm.

So long as all of the people involved in this nightmare are prosecuted so that the whole truth comes out and they can never serve in office again, I do not need revenge of seeing * and Cheney going to jail.

[bobbolink]

82. OK, gotcha. They must be prosecuted, so that JUSTICE becomes

a "value" once again!

The only way our Constitution can be protected and preserved is for them all to have to face the music!

Thanks for clarifying--I wasn't sure what you meant. Now I see we both are thinking much the same.

Except... that I want them in the Hague! :hi:

[frogcycle]

87. but

the mob behind them will go nowhere. the REAL culprits are the wheelers and dealers of halliburton, kbr, blackwater, ge, raytheon, etc. They are the ones who feed the pols and manipulate them to do shit like this. Sure the admin gang is despicable and the big money folks latched on to the neocons as idealogues who would further their interests. whether bush/cheney resign or are impeached is immaterial, whether they go to jail is immaterial, if business-as-usual prevails and the cabal just selects another lackey to do their bidding. Thats what they did when nixon screwed the pooch - they found smilin ronnie and got themselves "Star Wars". When Clinton came along and upset their plans, they started grooming shrub - dried him out, got him elected governator - and the rest is history.

[IndyOp]

116. 100 Points for frogcycle!! Woo-hoo!!

We must always remember, and never forget, the words of frogcycle: "the REAL culprits are the wheelers and dealers of halliburton, kbr, blackwater, ge, raytheon, etc."

And, I think we work this in a number of ways:

1. Prosecuting any and all business execs who've broken existing laws.

2. Writing laws to make criminal all of the areas currently considered "ethics gray areas" - those having to do with interactions of business & government and those having to do with immoral accumulations of wealth.

3. Changing the consciousness of the nation - turning away from "things" to "people" - so that people who are much less motivated to get rich by any means necessary.

IT CAN BE DONE. And we start now!

:hi:

[frogcycle]

124. That and more

for more of my ranting:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3130028&mesg_id=3130296

IF - and this is a big "if" - the fundamental "all about me" philosophy of much of of the country can change, then there may be a chance. The Time choice made me sick. The so-called "me generation" of the 80/90s was a rejection of the optimism and altruism of the 60s (I know, I know, lots of stuff sucked in the 60s - but how popular do you think "The Age of Aquarius" would have been if released in, say 1987? 1993? 1998?)

We have an entire generation now in middle management raised to look at this month's "numbers" to see what their bonus will be so they can buy that beamer. Hoardes of "soccer moms" voted for bush not based on any thinking assessment of his capabilities, but on an elitist country-club mentality wherein they fancied themselves one day ascending to the Kennebunkport social circles. Their whole attitude toward ANY question is "what's in it for me?"

If they think big business getting richer and poor people getting poorer means maybe some day they'll be rich, they will vote AGAINST SELF-INTEREST.

There is a big movement among evangelicals (read: christian shamans) to tell people "god wants you to be rich". All of a sudden people are stumbling over each other to donate and buy their god-lottery ticket.

Folks, this obscene trend over the past couple of decades is NO ACCIDENT!

The MACHINE studies human nature. It read 1984. It knows how to manipulate the masses. The stepford wives are their puppets, programmed to punch "R". The republican party is nothing but an artifact of Lincoln's and Eisenhower's party. It was taken over by the Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

The war we have on our hands is for the most fundamental values upon which this nation was founded. by the people and FOR the people

[aquart]

85. Hagel? You mean, Cheney, don't you?

Never in the history of our nation, have both president and vice president stepped down at once.

[IndyOp]

103. I mean Hagel. I mean that we ought do something dramatic and new

BEFORE the idiot son and his puppeteers decide to drop nuclear weapons anywhere in this world.

The nation pressures the entire administration to step down. The GOP decides that the best thing they can do to save face is to push the administration out with the offer that a Republican, such as Hagel, will step in. This dramatically increases their chances of winning in 2008 - they will have motivation to put Hagel in instead of letting Pelosi get hold of the joystick.

If we were in the UK - a parliamentary system - the Bush administration would have been pressured to step down last week.

'Tis my fantasy. Join me or not - as you wish.

[Morgana LaFey]

110. Be very careful what you wish for

Hagel may make some sense, but he's in office thanks to some of the earliest electronic voting machine machinations from the company for which he was CEO (ES&S) until he stepped down to run for Senate. He had African Americans voting for him -- a Republican! -- at something like 80+% and other demographics way up there too. Truth to tell I like him about best too, but that's only until I remember how he got into office twice now.

[BearSquirrel2]

89. incument ...

Democrats would be ill advised to place a strong presidential candidate in the incumbent's seat. They would have to find some obscure congressman that is poorly spoken and clearly only keeping the seat warm while a strong new democratic defense secretary (like Wesley Clark) manages an orderly pullout in Iraq.

[IndyOp]

117. if we can put a poorly spoken Rethug in there (and there are lots of them)...

that's fine. Otherwise my priorities are to (1.) Prevent nuclear armageddon. (2.) Get a Dem in the WH in 2008.

First Bush out - no nukes!

Then Dem in in 2008.

:hi:

[ktlyon]

112. Nixon stepped down because GOP representatives told him

he would be impeached if he didn't. If the Bush can just walk away like Nixon, our country will be badly served because justice will not be served. If Nixon had been impeached and prosecuted criminally we would have raised the bar instead of lowering it. The Republic Party would be well served if they ask this administration to step down but the country won't.

[rosesaylavee]

94. If he resigns,

the investigations could still continue and he (and many others) could still stand trial for his crimes, right? Barring someone pardoning him?

[fooj]

106. It's past time...

BUT I'LL TAKE IT!!!!!:bounce:

[wordpix]

122. I agree, we must stand up for the Constitution & not let BushCo twist it into shreds!

[Clark2008]

54. That sounds like a really good name for a rock band:

The Chimp and Cheney.

[CatWoman]

56. goddamn you

I just spit water all over my monitor :rofl:

[hatrack]

72. Or maybe a TV show

Like "Chimpy And The Brain."

:evilgrin:

[wordpix]

121. "the party is no longer with him and the war must end." Yep, Dimson, the party's over

:wow:

snip: "All the talking points aren't going to make the difference."

snip: former senior Bush aide who is still close to the White House says if things don't improve, a delegation of Republican senators could one day show up in the Oval Office to tell Bush that the party is no longer with him and the war must end—much like Sen. William Fulbright's forcefully urging Lyndon Johnson to bring the Vietnam War to a close. (Last week Warner told NEWSWEEK he "wouldn't hesitate" to tell Bush if he came to believe Bush's policy was failing.) Bush's challenge isn't just to take control of Baghdad, but to win back control of his party. "Before this, the president's credibility was hanging by a thread," says the former aide. "After this, I don't know. It may be lost."

[aquart]

31. It won't work.

Nothing will work until they join hands across the aisle with us and impeach his criminal ass. George does NOT take criticism well.

[Tansy_Gold]

102. Intervention

We've got a destructive -- but not yet self-destructive -- addict on our hands and nothing short of forcible intervention is going to solve the problem.

I'm not enough into :tinfoilhat: conspiracy theories to think that the GOP engineered the Clinton impeachment circus to preempt any potential scenario against a potential nominee/candidate/president three or four or nine years later. That's all very convenient hindsight; as far as I'm concerned, one might as well speculate that the Nixon impeachment over lying about a "third-rate burglary" was a prelude to Clinton and arguments over "is."

Taken individually, which of those three cases -- Nixon, Clinton, booosh -- more merited the strong intervention of impeachment? Seems to me that the Constitution includes the impeachment provision as a way to peaceably avoid violent revolution when the individual occupying the presidency has corrupted the principles of the republic.

If I were Pelosi, and of course I'm not, I'd get the urgent business out of the way by the end of January, preferably before the State of the Union, and then clear the tables to go all out for impeachment. Make the threat real. Drag it out and snarl the government and tie up the funding and the hell with everything else. Put it all out there for the public to see. Let Limbaugh and O'Really and Hannity and Malkin and all the other rightwing liars have massive strokes.

Drag in the investigations of Halliburton and Bechtel and all the other profiteers; make them part of the impeachment. Charge Cheney with exerting inappropriate influence over booooosh; diagnose booosh in public as delusional and sociopathic. In other words, PROSECUTE a crime.

I've been reading Woodward's "State of Denial," and though I haven't finished it yet, I've been struck throughout by the unholy alliance between Cheney and Rumsfeld. Apparently there were many people within the machinery that conducted/conducts the "war" who saw the disaster before it unfolded, who warned of the inevitability of what we are seeing on the nightly news. I'm not talking about all us wise folks who "knew" what was going to happen; I'm talking about people in the administration, people who had face-to-face meetings with boooosh (and Cheney and Rice) and who were unable to get their points across.

I watched the History Channel's documentary on the 1978 Jonestown mass suicide/murder last night, primarily because I wanted to see how they handled the issue of Jones convincing 900+ people to take their own lives. My own personal perspective was that Jonestown was a microcosm of the U.S. under boooosh; though the producers of this particular program did not make that suggestion overtly, neither did they offer anything that contradicted my original impression. Jones exercised his megalomania to transfer his paranoia to his "subjects" in almost exactly the same way booosh/Cheney/Rumsfeld have done with the U.S. One of the most striking portraits was that of Jones' wife, who came across as a basically good and intelligent person who had, unfortunately, bought into the whole ugly mess. Talk about drinking the Flavor-Aid. . . . . .

One wonders how many of the 600 or so adults at Jonestown would have risen up against their tyrant had a leader among them appeared. But then again, Jones probably would have quashed any kind of rebellion, and most of his followers knew it.

The U.S. isn't yet Jonestown, but it will be if someone doesn't intervene, and do it quickly and decisively. Speaker Pelosi?


Tansy Gold

[The Backlash Cometh]

105. I think they're freaking out since Clark mentioned the nasty "M" word.

Follow the MONEY. Nothing will strike fear in the hearts of the GOP more than this country's masses insisting on a scrutiny of Wall Street's behind-the-scene machinations before giving up our sons and daughters.

[wordpix]

119. that seemed clear around 1/1: ignore Baker Commission & escalate

[DURHAM D]

2. On what program ? n/t

[H2O Man]

4. MSNBC n/t

[SeattleGirl]

3. He'd better tell Buchanan too.

Back away from the Kool Aide!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

14. very funny

:rofl: Buchanan is definitely losing it...

[JerseygirlCT]

20. This has been the longest "losing it" process in history

the man has been certifiable for decades.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

49. too true

I saw him a few months back and actually agreed with whatever he said. Surprised the crap outta me. But, it seems that the true Pat must have just been asleep on that day. C'est la poop -- will be of little loss when the "losing it" is complete.

[mwb970]

96. I've agreed with Pat a lot lately.

That should tell you how bad it is. Actually, he seems to have his head on straight about Bush's War, at least.

[JerseygirlCT]

100. He does, but for some pretty suspect reasons

it's his America First stuff coming through. He's an isolationist, not to mention a bigot. He doesn't think we ought to be messing around with *those* people out there.

[JerseygirlCT]

99. Broken clock syndrome

Don't worry, you're not losing it. Just like a broken clock, Pat's occasionally correct.

[Kahuna]

5. That's right. It's time for the gop to take out their own rotting trash..

:popcorn:

[Olney Blue]

6. I just heard this on Scarborough's show. Sign across screen says

"Will Republican revolt end war?"

[aquart]

7. Not near enough. And define "over."

Because there's no point in getting rid of George without dumping Dickie.

But, if they only mean the war needs to be over, they may be in for a grim surprise.

[SeattleGirl]

11. Well, Buchanan just said that Bush is going to do what he wants.

Which is exactly what Bush himself said, as well as Cheney. WHEN IN THE FUCK DID THIS BECOME AN IMPERIALISTIC COUNTRY??? :banghead:

[enigmatic]

46. there's going to come to a point

when the bodies start coming home in an even faster pace than before where somebody in the GOP is going to go to W to tell him to resign or be impeached, w/ no other option. And there's going to be nothing W can do about it short of a coup, and as cynical as I am, I still don't see this happening.

[Morgana LaFey]

111. Well, you need to look a little closer then

He's got all the pieces in place to declare martial law. All that's necessary is to have another 9-11, or better yet a much easier "dirty bomb" or biological attack in a couple of major cities, and he could probably get away with it. He already HAS all the powers a dictator needs, including 50 little armies under his direct control (if he wants that), so it's not impossible to envision a scenario in which he and Cheney simply don't go. Suspend elections and carry on.

[aquart]

55. Somewhere around the time we acquired Hawaii?

The Virgin Islands? The Marianas? Bikini? American Samoa? What did I leave out?

[janx]

8. Does Scarborough Country repeat?

I'd like to catch it if it does.

[SeattleGirl]

12. I'm not sure it does.

:shrug:

[H2O Man]

13. 4 am est (n/t)

[janx]

TNX!

:hi:

[H2O Man]

29. It's worth watching.

I think that while the republican opposition to Bush is distinct from progressive democrats', it is important for people to be aware of the extent of that opposition. I remember when I began posting my threads saying it was time to begin to push for hearings to impeach Cheney after the 11-06 elections, and some people said that the republicans would never come out against the administration. We need to have confidence in the process.

[janx]

38. I did catch the end of it, but I'd like to see the whole thing.

Crawford's take is interesting.

[H2O Man]

40. Crawford is

a smart man.

[mwb970]

97. Crawford is one of my favorite commentators.

Along with Dana Milbank and Mo Rocca.

[donco6]

9. So, what are they to do with him?

He's been a puppet all along, IMO. If they're down on him, they have to be down on the real power behind the throne, Evil Dicky.

[MoonRiver]

10. This makes me happy! GOP in revolt means * may soon be removed.

Impeachment or resignation is our friend! :kick:

[SeattleGirl]

16. Resignation would be much quicker.

One can only hope, but I'm not holding my breath.

[MoonRiver]

21. Who'd a thunk it?

But this seems to be the direction the * lunatics are forcing Congress toward. :crazy:

[bobbolink]

78. I want it quick, but I also want it thorough!

Investigations of the whole clown brigade, and impeachments galore.

No more Iran/Contra crap!

The Dems can't afford to be the party of "soft on crime".

[spanone]

15. Those poor bastards have to go home and get the shit kicked out of them by constituents.

Bush* is at home and no one will tell him the truth.

[CatWoman]

22. there you go, Spanone

it's my understanding that there are several seats up for grab in the GOP in the next election, like a 2 to 1 ratio.

I expect the Dems to hold onto their's, and more losses for the GOP.

[spanone]

33. Music to my ears....the voters will not go away.

[Lex]

26. Yes, Bush is *destroying them* with their home constituency.

They deserve it though, and they should've spoken up to shut him down long ago.


_______________________

[Kahuna]

28. True that. They have no legitimate cause to blame chimpy for their

woes. Nobody made them to parrot rove's daily blast faxes. Nobody made them refuse to provide oversight. Nobody made them go along with delay's K Street project. They brought it all upon themselves. But in typical repuke fashion they have to find someone else to blame.

[Javaman]

18. Yeah and I'm holding my breath. I somehow doubt they are going to bite the

hand that feeds them.

[Kahuna]

23. "The hand that feeds them?????" Or do you mean the hand that delivered

them a stinging rebuke in November and the hand that is threatening to make the republican party obsolete?

[AspenRose]

24. News Flash: The time for trying to talk to Bush is "over"

Past time for talk and way overdue for some serious action.

[MN ChimpH8R]

25. The chimp really shit in the punchbowl

last Wednesday night. Matthews has consistently showed something like a spine since then. The fence sitters have finally decided that Chimpy is, in fact, as nuts as we left-wingers have been saying for years. They just didn't want to admit it to themselves, but the Iran talk was the last straw and snapped them out of their state of denial.

The only reason the Repigs will lean on him is to prevent the utter decimation of the party in the next election.

[babylonsister]

27. Big NOM! Resign or be impeached? I certainly hope so. nt

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

37. My take~ Bush Resigns ~Cheney the President

V.P. will go to McCain or Lieberman. Who ever sells the Kagen Keane institute plan of Iran attack the best, gets it.

[frogcycle]

88. sonafabitch would have to be confirmed...

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Why is that scary?

Perhaps you meant :party:

[CatWoman]

51. no

It's scary to me because there's no telling what Chimpolini will do when backed against the wall and told he's an irrelevant idiot.

I mean, look at his actions after the American electorate thoroughly rejected his ass this past November.

[Warren DeMontague]

76. Yeah, but he'd act like a crazy kook if he thought he had a "mandate", too.

Bottom line, he's determined to be a downright shitty president no matter what. The best we can hope for is that others in our government try to put the brakes on him.

[PaDem]

35. Not happening,,,,,,,,,,,,

they might distance themselves from him, but they won't stop him.

[Kahuna]

41. They can stop him. A chimp-peachment would put an end to his

shenanigans. They know that right now it's either him or them. If they don't put him in check the republican party could cease to exist.

[Robson]

64. GOP will initiate impeachment

Survival will usurp party loyalty and many Repubs will collaborate to bring him down.

[PaDem]

101. I disagree..........

in fact if I had a gun to my head now I'd say the '08 winner will be a Republican.

[Generator]

36. What the fuck are they watiing for??????????

I want to scream it! There are lives in the balance everywhere. STOP him, please for the sake of humanity.

[regnaD kciN]

39. "The GOP is near revolt..."

Oh, come on! They've been revolting for years. :evilgrin:

[Kahuna]

43. rimshot..

:applause:

[IndyOp]

48. Score! :-) (n/t)

:applause:

[CatWoman]

52. LOLOLOLOLOL

:rofl:

[MrSlayer]

42. They've manipulated so much power to themselves it may not matter.

By they I mean the Executive branch. All this Unitary Executive, signing statement and extreme parsing of the Constitution could tie them up in courts for decades and in the meantime, without a quick impeachment, they go about bombing whomever they want. If the Republicans start talking about immediate impeachment then we have something.

[Kahuna]

45. Exactly. A quick impeachment spearheaded by the repukes is

the only way. They have to decide whether they will let chimp take down the whole party. It will be very interesting to watch.

[enigmatic]

44. I prefer resignation to impeachment

W/ impeachment, the true believers and W can "argue" the the Dems in Congress railroaded him; w/ resignation, especially if this is a repeat of the GOP telling Nixon the same. And if anything, in W's alcohol-soaked mind, resigning might be preferable to him in order to "decide" until the end.

[Cleita]

58. Too Nixonian for me. I'm tired of the recycled minions of

former Presidents arriving on the scene Presidential terms later. I want him in an orange jumpsuit in the Graybar Hotel for life. The same goes for Dick, Condi, Karen, Richard et al. And I'm not letting Rummy off the hook just because he bailed out early. He needs to be brought up on charges as well.

[bobbolink]

83. It's about JUSTICE, and about RULE OF LAW!

No, resignation, while important, does NOT take the place of impeachement!

REview the laws, and look again at the consequences of Iran/Contra.

We can't afford more of this in another 10, 15 years!!

Seriously, think on that!

[WinkyDink]

53. HA! Cheney clearly doesn't want to be president, as the office is of too

high visibility, travel, speechifyin', and in general too much daylight.

[janx]

59. True. There is no rabbit hole

in the oval office.

[symbolman]

60. For the first time I just want to thank the big lug

Yessiree, THANKS Mr Bush for DESTROYING the Republican party before our very eyes. Once again, everything you touch turns to shit, and those who never did their homework are finding that out. You are a DISEASE, and you've infected your own party, and THANKS FOR THAT!

I've been saying this for Months. The REPIGS are in severe danger of losing it ALL and they WILL cross over to take this idiot out, AND CHENEY.

Watch them go, as Mark Twain said, "History Doesn't neccessarily Repeat itself, But it RHYMES."

I LOVE IT, MORE POPCORN!

Mr Bush, just leave a Pyramid of Republican Skulls on the way out, before they turn off the lights :)

[CatWoman]

66. lol

give Symbolbaby a hug for me :hi:

:hug:

[symbolman]

68. Hugged AND Kissed

Gonna have to PM you some pics, he's the cutest kid in the WORLD, just as long as that Binka doesn't show up with her little cutie pies :)

Maybe I should make a bumper sticker "THANKS Mr BUSH, For Killing the Republican Party!"

Hugs back atcha, and to all the kitty kats everywhere :)

[DemReadingDU]

62. Bush is the Decider (and Educator!)

I doubt Bush will decide to resign.
And Cheney loves Power. He won't resign either.

If the Repubs revolt, it will go to an impeachment to have them removed.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

63. If the Al Maliki government falls - that might be the final straw for the Chimp

Unfortunately, they are pushing Al Maliki into an untenable position.

[bdamomma]

98. that's if Maliki is able to get through this

if anything happens to him that is it for Iraq, it will fall into another dictator's hands or Religious sect.

[liberal renegade]

65. The hell with impeachment

arrest their sorry asses!

[Bobbie Jo]

67. Scarborough went on to speculate....

Iran provokes a strike. US takes out their nuke factories, and chimpy comes out the big hero.

[magellan]

79. Maybe while the shock & awe are happening

...but Dimson won't survive the fallout. IOW things won't end with blowing up Iran's "nuke" sites. That'll just be the beginning of the REALLY bad stuff. Scarborough, like most Repugs, fails to predict the dire repercussions of warmongering.

[Cosmocat]

107. BINGO ...

these buttwhipes are so shortsighted it is just STUNNING ...

The can of worms opened up by a strike on Iran will make Iraq look like chick fight in a bar ... Iraq is just contained to Iraq ... We strike Iran and they will put their network of terrorists to work all across the world ... AND, it will COMPLETELY turn the entire middle east on the US ...

[fooj]

109. Iran won't provoke a strike. WE WILL.

Take that one to the bank.

[Oilwellian]

69. It's over alright

I guess the 60 Minutes interview proved it once and for all. Bush is certifiably insane. Malloy is talking right now about a transcript on the CBS website that proves they cut some of Bush's interview. Apparently, the part they cut was very damning of Bush...he's certifiable.

Here's the transcript...happy reading. (get comfy, it's long.)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/14/60minutes/main2359119.shtml

[Blue_In_AK]

84. I hate that word "suiciders." Who made that up? n/t

[pecwae]

93. Thanks for the link!

This is one of those times I wish we could rec a single post.

[mmonk]

70. I don't care who gets him and the VP out of office

as long as someone acts in the best interest of this country.

[havocmom]

73. DUer Kadie posted some pics - chimp's early return from Camp David with GOP leaders

Thinkin they may have made the point that his ass is grass after seeing the Ashen Man

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3114655

[CatWoman]

90. gotta agree with you, Havocmom

he looks scared, pissed and completely out of his depth.

[jwirr]

74. I want to see *ss and the vp out but I do not want to let them pick

their own replacements. Hagel is a good guy but the constitution is clear about the succession for the presidency. NANCY FOR PRESIDENT 2007.

[jazzjunkysue]

77. "The Republican Revolt."

Sorta like "The Iceberg Crunch." A little too late to save everyone, but inevitable, when you put a chimpanzee in the oval office.

But he'll never resign. He'll make it an up and down vote and then we'll usher him out at the end of a rifle.

He's too afraid of the secrets the next pres will discover.

[Pastiche423]

80. Deadeye knows by now

what many repukes are saying. I wonder what he thinks. More importantly, I wonder what he will do.

They BOTH have to go!

[Wapsie B]

86. Cool.

I'll start icing up the beer and champagne.

:toast:

About damn time I'd say. The death of the gop. Not a moment too soon. Mitch McConnell, god what a puke. Give it up asshole.

[DemReadingDU]

91. morning kick

[rosesaylavee]

92. Here's hoping.

K & R

[Name removed]

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[specimenfred1984]

108. Fascist traitors can't "revolt", they already betrayed America

They already supported torture, treason and high crimes, it's a little late to be changing their minds now.

They betrayed America, they are traitors. They only reason they all aren't in jail is our fascist system of justice.

[WI_DEM]

113. why don't they just join us and impeach him?

[in_cog_ni_to]

114. "It's Over" as in..... They're ready to IMPEACH???

Please say yes.

[tom_paine]

115. How would a cornered Bushler strike back at America for disloyalty?

Honestly, the sky is the limit on what Little Boots Bushler would do in his madness.

Arrange another 9/11 on us?

Start an unwinnable nuclear conflict?

Arrange an NBC 9/11?

Get those Halliburton Concentration Camps open for business (if they aren't open already?)

[Rex]

118. They can see their end with Bush in charge.

The GOP has been damaged in a huge way over the last 6 years because of Bush and Cheney. I'm hoping the BFEE completely destroys the Grand Old Party. Could happen to a nicer bunch of assholes IMO.

[wordpix]

120. "the party is no longer with him and the war must end." Yep, Dimson, the party's over

snip: "All the talking points aren't going to make the difference."

snip: former senior Bush aide who is still close to the White House says if things don't improve, a delegation of Republican senators could one day show up in the Oval Office to tell Bush that the party is no longer with him and the war must end—much like Sen. William Fulbright's forcefully urging Lyndon Johnson to bring the Vietnam War to a close. (Last week Warner told NEWSWEEK he "wouldn't hesitate" to tell Bush if he came to believe Bush's policy was failing.) Bush's challenge isn't just to take control of Baghdad, but to win back control of his party. "Before this, the president's credibility was hanging by a thread," says the former aide. "After this, I don't know. It may be lost."