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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:26 PM
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Global warming: the value of a Gore presidency
There is a meme which has emerged arguing against a Gore candidacy in 2008, namely that Gore would be more effective in his current role as a private citizen. Because I have encountered variations of that statement several times in the past few months, I want to address it. While I disagree with it, I don't discount it out of hand. Rather, I would like to present the rationales for it, as best I understand them, along with the arguments in the other direction.

Case for Gore as private citizen to combat global warming:

1. As a citizen, Gore can say what he wants. He can swing freely at the interests (big oil, right-wing think tanks, etc.) which continue to spread disinformation about the climate crisis. As president, he would have to be more circumspect in his advocacy.

2. As a citizen, Gore's efforts are untarnished by the appearance of partisanship. As president, many elements on the right would (and corporate media elements might) make ad hominem attacks, saying his advocacy was politically motivated.

3. As a citizen, Gore can focus entirely on climate crisis. As president, he would be distracted with other important issues.

Rebuttal to that case:

1. It is true that being president does place limitations on what one can and should say. However, the presidency is the "bulliest" (no Colbert copyright!) pulpit on the planet. Whether it is JFK on the Apollo project, LBJ talking about the need for a Great Society initiative, or Dubya talking about the need to confront an "Axis of Evil," when a president speaks, he can set the agenda in the US, or even internationally. Presidential pronouncements almost always have larger real-world consequences than that of any private citizen. We need a president who will be DEDICATED to setting the agenda on climate crisis. I believe Gore more likely than any other Dem to promulgate the presidential rhetoric needed in 2009. As president, his bullhorn will simply be much, much bigger.

2. The Dems are historically likely to take back the White House in 2008. No matter who that president is, the right wing will attack initiatives on climate crisis. In other words they will attack whomever we elect. Since that is by far the most important issue, why not have the one who is head-and-shoulders above the crowd in his qualifications to deal with the issue?

3. As president, Gore will certainly have other important issues to address. But so would any other Dem. Who is most likely to keep the necessary focus, Gore or somebody else? Gore has already proven that he can "walk and chew gum" at the same time as VP. When he held national office he was able to succeed at various initiatives in parallel. As examples, he was able to head the highly successful REGO plan (which reduced federal employee headcount to its lowest level in decades), be a strong advocate for US intervention against genocide in the Balkans, etc., and yet still save the Kyoto Accord in 1997. In other words, Gore is personally responsible (see below) for our current global framework for fighting global warming, despite his other impressive roles as Vice President.

MOST IMPORTANTLY...

It is day-and-night critical who occupies the White House, as to whether the world advances on climate change.

Example 1: The UN initiative to combat global warming, UNFCCC, is launched in 1992 at Rio de Janeiro. Bush 41 sabotages the meeting and no agreement is reached.

Example 2: At Kyoto in 1997, the talks break down and no deal is expected. On the next-to-last day, Gore flies to Japan (against the unanimous advice of his advisors: see The Prince of Tennessee by David Maraniss, pp. 287-288) and addresses the assembly, lobbies privately with key countries and gets the negotiations back on track. The result is the Kyoto Accord, implemented in 2005 and our current global framework for dealing with global warming.

Example 3: Bush 43* sabotages all efforts to combat global warming.

In other words, who is in the White House is historically VITAL to whether the world does or doesn't make progress in treaty efforts to combat climate crisis. No American politician, Democratic or Republican, has produced a major international treaty concerning global warming... except Al Gore.

We are all experiencing the frustration of having the wrong person in the White House. Private citizens are so far unable to stop the insane escalation in Iraq. Gore, although effective to a certain degree with what he is doing on global warming, is still largely held in check by the moron currently living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, especially with respect to international treaties.

Here is my question: in 2009, would you rather that Gore be a private citizen or The Decider?
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:28 PM
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1. I was sad to see he definitly was not running. He is the ideal candidate for 08
I wonder if we can persuade him at all if it looks like Hillary will get the nomination?? Then it'd be like republican vs. republican.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:46 PM
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3. Hi IP,
I think I know the Reuters story to which you refer. The headline is, I'm sure, highly misleading. I can say with certainty that he reserves his option to run. In an effort to keep this thread from becoming an "is he/isn't he?" thread, I would just refer you to my post #73 on that Reuters thread, linked below.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2689865&mesg_id=2690107

BTW, is there any way to make your avatar eyebrows wiggle?
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Shadrach Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:15 AM
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9. I hope he does run!
He would be perfect for 08 and the strongest candidate in my opinion! :-)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:45 AM
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11. That was incorrect reporting
He is continuing to keep his horse out of the race, but that horse can still run.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:35 PM
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2. I don't feel Gore is the only option, but the candidate better be ready to act like him on this.
The next two years are a trial, and only someone who gets things done will be called President. Addressing global warming effectively is their least (yet, arguably, most important) expectation, and they stand no chance without doing so.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:53 PM
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4. kick
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:26 PM
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5. "The Decider," to be sure.
:kick:
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:30 PM
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6. Please forward this to Al. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:39 PM
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7. I want Gore. Why can't I have Gore?
Why are my wishes not being obeyed?
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:22 AM
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10. That's frustrating. I hate when that happens ....
Anyway, I agree. Gore is my number one choice.

When does he need to decide? October 07?
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:37 PM
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13. The filing date for New Hampshire is
traditionally mid-November, but haven't seen that date yet. Practically, I'm guessing September to October, depending on how the the Clinton/Obama/Edwards race shapes up.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:49 AM
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12. You can. Relax
Rewatch An Inconvenient Truth. I think you will see another truth sitting right beside the inconvenient one if you watch carefully. He will run. I think he is savoring his last little time as a private citizen and as well, he is a very savvy politician. Nonetheless, he will run.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:44 PM
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14. Does he have a million dollars in his kitty?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:56 PM
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15. Gore is not a poor man
As well, he has a handle on the internet and he'll be able to raise 10 million grassroots dollars in a week. Easy. Hell, I bet he would raise half a million right from this website.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:10 AM
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8. Gore for Decider
He would have my vote if he ran again and campaign for him as well. That Reuter's "story" yesterday was over the top annoying. Just saying.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:06 PM
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16. And a big kicksy for you. One rec coming up!
Addressing the climate change issues that confront us is perhaps the most important undertaking EVER. The consequences of failure are too horrible to contemplate.
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