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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:35 AM
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American Idol starts tonight--will the Libby trial be overshadowed?
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:44 AM
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1. Is the Libby trial being reported live? If so where?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:22 AM
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8. There's live blogging going on right now at firedoglake
www.firedoglake.com

Their coverage will be live blogged during court hours, which are 9:30 - 5:00, Monday-Thursday for the duration of the trial.

Julie
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:04 AM
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2. What's wrong with Paula? Drugs, MS or Parkinsons?




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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:08 AM
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4. Booze and pills.
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JacksonWest Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:14 AM
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6. You could show a goat eating a tin can and it would still over shadow the libby trial.

"To thine own self be true." No one cares-and Libby's going to get off. It's a shame, but don't blame American Idol for the apathy. There's been a number one show on tv every week in the history of television. It doesn't matter-We've been apathetic for even longer.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:07 AM
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3. The average American doesn't know what the Libby trial is.
They won't know or care until, they actually convict him of something.

I have yet to talk to one person, that I didn't know to be a political junky, that even knew what the Plame scandal is.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:12 AM
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5. Which is exactly WHY the GOPs spent the 80s and 90s buying up control of the
broadcast and print media. Best way to control what the public actually LEARNS about their government - that protects those who benefit from government secrecy and privilege.
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JacksonWest Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:19 AM
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7. That's why?
It could me that the libby case is about a non-material fact in Plame Gate. He's going on trial for lying to the investigators, not for exposing a CIA agent.

Or, as you said, it could be the tail end of a twenty year conspiracy of the GOP-who apparently control all of the media- to cover up a crime made by a staff member in the white house.

Critical thinking. Don't leave home without it. The media sucks because it is a business, not because of a GOP conspiracy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:28 AM
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9. This was just ONE event - an event that PROTECTED Bush for 2004.
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 11:30 AM by blm
The point is that they constructed a powerful way to manipulate public opinion. They were able to impeach a Dem president, defeat a capable sitting VP, protect Bush on 9-11 and turn him into a heroic figure, push us INTO a war of choice, push out Dan Rather, downplay voting machine manipulations, steal another election.

It took UNSPINNABLE events like the debates, Schiavo and Katrina to allow peeks behind the wall of protection the corpmedia had built for Bush.

The post in no way was meant to imply they bought control of media all to deal with Plame - it was about protecting the powers that be who put covert criminal plans LIKE Plame attack into action.
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JacksonWest Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:59 AM
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10. Sorry-I'm feeling snarky.
COnspiracy theories usually annoy me. It seems like a great way to feel good about losing and/or doing nothing. For the record, I don't hold the media responsible for the impeachment of CLinton-I'd blame the Republican congress or Senate. If you recall, Clinton was elevated to record popularity during the impeachment. And the GOP blamed the same media for that. Gore defeated himself by not embracing Clinton during the campaign. I like Gore, and want him to run(although Obama is my number one seed)- but if he had used Clinton he would have been President. Yes, the media did turn Bush into a heroic figure on 9/11. So did I. That was a traumatic day, and I wanted to like the President. So I don't really fault them on that. I don't think the media pushed the war. My impression was that no one wanted this war-but the GOP pushed it through. Dan Rather did himself in by standing behind a story that used false documents. We all know Bush skipped out on his service. However, if you do a story on that, and you use fake documents(even unintentionally), you've got to pay the piper. And Rather never did that. I wouldn't have fired him-but I love the guy. I'm not surprised he's gone though.

As far as vote machine manipulation and stolen elections-I don't buy that. The Supreme court gave it away in 2000, and Kerry gave it away in 2004.

We won the last election in the middle of a war. I don't think the system is rigged-although it has flaws.

Anyways, have a great day. Sorry for being harsh earlier. I'm going to grab some lunch.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:09 PM
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11. Do you honestly think if AI wasn't on that people would pay attention to the Libby trial?
Most people who care about the Libby trial will probably watch the news or buy a paper to read up on it.

I stay informed on a number of issues but I'm not going to necessarily watch a program that deals with those issues if I can find the information through other avenues.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:32 PM
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12. this is when American Idol always starts its season so I doubt
even Fox planned it to take attention away from the Scooter trial.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:35 PM
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13. No overshadowing here
The trial will be followed. :)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:38 PM
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14. Since They Are Completely Unrelated And One Has Not An Iota To Do With The Other, I'd Say No. n/t
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