SO I'm guessing some are worried about "24" cause a couple of freepers think it's real?

[trumad]

Is that what I'm understanding here?

LOL-- come on.... It sounds like the same crowd who's against violent video games. oh my... Violent video games will turn us all into murderers... Oh my... Jack torturing some dude's gonna turn right thinking citizens into a bunch of freeper idiots who applaud torture.

It's funny but I use to think it was the repubs that wanted to take away shit that I love...

Not anymore.

[DemoGuy23]

1. I can't believe that!

OMG, seriously!? HAHA! This is my first post/reply on here and
I wanted it to be on a worthwhile subject! HAHA! Unbelievable!
Those Repugs are soo dumb! It's just entertainment! Unless you
count what Arnold did in the Terminators as real too! STUPID!

[AtomicKitten]

4. the sheep in America are vulnerable

At first I thought 24 was going to provide the scare tactics this administration love so much, but it is also hitting hard civil liberties.
I hope at the very least it is a wash because the sheep in America are vulnerable to such propaganda.

[trumad]

9. "vulnerable to such propaganda"

That's my point...they always will be. But I'm not...

[Seen the light]

20. Did you watch last year?

The president on the show was behind a plot to set off WMDs in the US to start a war under false pretenses. Definitely sounds like pro-Bush propaganda to me....

[AtomicKitten]

22. that was definitely a great story line last year

What I'm saying is that I was a bit tense when I realize this year was capitalizing on the fear factor but was assuaged somewhat to see them talking about the importance of civil liberties. It's hard to know for sure where they're going this year until it plays out.

[Seen the light]

23. Sorry, I misunderstood you then nt

[BattyDem]

26. They really are getting into the civil liberties thing ...

I wanted to smack Wayne Palmer when he basically sided with the "gestapo" against his sister. True, he had her released ... but he also reprimanded her for not giving them the "evidence" they wanted and he let the FBI hold the Muslim leader without cause. I wish the ghost of David Palmer would come back and kick his little brother's ass!

[AtomicKitten]

33. Olbermann was talking about this today -- anybody see it?

Terror, terror, terror, terror, terror !!!!

[Bluebear]

7. Hmmm.

[Kerry fan]

15. "It's just entertainment! "

I agree. Unfortunately, the CONs do take it seriously.

I have not seen it but a friend of mine says, in his opinion, that it portrays a myth that we have been trying to debunk, that torture gets good, usable results and information.

His neoCON acquaintances have said such things as see, torture works and doesn't it feel good to watch the "good guys" kick ass.

Since they live in a fantasy world under Bush's tutelage, this show could be bad for their health, their mental health.

[trumad]

18. But if not this show, then something else

and really---who cares what these asswipes think anyway.

[EstimatedProphet]

30. Good point, but...

We should care what those asswipes think, because wht they think has fucked this country seven ways from Sunday so far. I'd love to ignore the idiots, but they keep doing things to get my attention, like starting and escalating wars...

[newyawker99]

34. Hi DemoGuy23!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[fishnfla]

2. You love that show, how sweet

a fucking TV show, good for you

The deal is: who is trying to take it away from you? Show me who

[trumad]

5. Believe me---some would if they could.

[fishnfla]

14. I dont know what is more foolish

People who think the show is real, or people who think it is so important.

Perfect illustration of the American brain pool.

"Some would if they could" give me a break. Your little program is a huge check in the bank for Fox Network, it aint going nowhere. Not as long as Jack Bauer's on the case!

[trumad]

17. I think what is more foolish is hopping in a thread

and acting like the arbitrator of what is foolish and what is not. Who died and made you the king of DU.

[fishnfla]

24. The same people who are trying to take your show away

thats who!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

12. I don't think you understand something about GD...

If you disagree with some of these people, you are automatically a ditto head, a rethuglican...You're not allowed to have a dissenting opinion.
Duckie

[BattyDem]

3. I've watched 24 since the very first episode

I always thought it was brilliantly written. B-)

[Mojambo]

6. It really is silly.

It's a rightwing fantasy. So what? The key word here is FANTASY.

We all saw Lord of the Rings. Doesn't mean people turned into Orcs and roamed the countryside.

[trumad]

8. I guess I like right wing fantasy

[Mojambo]

10. It's the only thing I like about the right wing! n/t

[BattyDem]

16. Very often, the RWers are not portrayed favorably on 24

That's why I don't understand why so many people think it's pure propaganda. 24's latest RW weasel, Tom Lennox, obviously has no respect for democracy, civil rights or the Constitution. The end justifies the means with this guy. He's already doing things behind the president's back and he's in favor of internment camps. How can any rational American think he's a hero? Sure, the RW viewers probably agree with him ... but I'm sure he'll get what's coming to him before the season's over. :evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

25. Exactly.

24 has had two African-American presidents: both of them decent, honorable men. The worst and slimiest president resembled the Bush Administration. Women have held prominent roles in all areas of government and national security. In other words, it's a very forward-thinking piece of "propaganda". The terrorists (because it is, after all, a show about terrorism) have been from all different backgrounds.

Also, on no other show (except the West Wing) has their been such a discussion of the Constitution and civil rights. The secondary story this season is about detainees held illegally at a Gitmo type place.

Maybe it's the fact that it's about terrorism at all? Is this one of those things which some at DU have as deemed "unacceptable"? All shows which include terrorism in the plot are immediately tools of the administration? I don't understand the bru-ha-ha.

[Seen the light]

27. There's only been ONE positive role model for the Freepers

James Heller was portrayed positively and he was obviously a Republican. However, David Palmer, arguably the best character that's ever been on the show and the one portrayed the most positively, was a DEMOCRATIC president.

And how can we forget the REPUBLICAN president Charles Logan...portrayed more negatively than possibly anyone else on the show.

[sweetheart]

11. 24 / 4 = 6

24 / 6 = 4
24 / 8 = 3
24 / 12 = 2
24 / 24 = 1

There are no prime thoughts in 24, its a rerun in consciousness.

[Bryn]

13. Whoever hasn't watched 24 can't make judgment unless you see 24 for yourself

I am a huge fan of 24 and have been since it started. I don't understand all the fuss is about except for last night where arabic terrorists are bombing all over USA. 24 covers everything, all nationalities, both republican and democratic people...just a damn good show. That's all it is. I can almost understand why FREEPERS like Rush is sooooo excited about it ... it's because of that nuclear bomb going off last night on the show which would be a sign of Jebuz's Second Coming in their own fantasy. But wait and see how it turns out.

It is like those Freepers and some medias twisting words of Barbara Boxer and made it out that Barbara was calling Condi childless which she NEVER did.

[Seen the light]

19. I've been laughing at the hysteria here

OH MY GOD A SHOW HAD A MUSLIM TERRORIST SET OFF A NUCLEAR BOMB! THIS MUST BE ROVE'S DOING!!!!

Ridiculous...

[zbdent]

21. Too bad we can't hijack the airwaves with a "Sean Hannity sound-alike"

and pull a "War of the Worlds" scenario ... can you imagine the paradise (well, once the bodies are cleared up) after all the freepturds freak out and start committing suicide?

[ck4829]

28. I hear Muslims all over the US get put into internment camps this season

Maybe that's why they are all ecstatic. :shrug:

[Hippo_Tron]

31. That's already been done in The Siege

[Hippo_Tron]

29. People assume it's propaganda because it's on FOX

What they don't realize is if FOX let the news department control the entertainment department, they would go bankrupt. FOX airs shows like Family Guy and American Dad that are critical of the Bush administration because the shows have good ratings.

Just because Rush Limpballs thinks that it's just like real life doesn't mean that it is.

[Kelly Rupert]

32. Every party has those who firmly believe

they know what's best for everyone else. It's a pity, really.

[maxrandb]

35. No! Some of us are just a little concerned

because we can imagine what Hitler could have done if he had the Fox channel behind him.

We ignored Rush when he came out because "just a couple of Freepers believe him", and look what happened. Now, there's no-where in America where I can get a traffic or weather report on AM radio without first having to listen to some ass-hat tell me what a "communist sympathizing, socialist, terrorist supporting, American hating scum-bag" I am, simply because I'm a Democrat...AND I'M ENTERING MY 24TH YEAR OF SERVICE TO MY COUNTRY AND NAVY.

Call this what it is. "Propaganda bordering on entertainment".

[trumad]

36. Look what happened

We now own the congress. It's only propaganda that effects the Morans who are diminishing by the day.

[maxrandb]

38. I have two major AM news stations in my area

Here's one line-up
0900-1200 Neal Boortz
1200-1500 Rush
1500-1800 Hannity
1800-2000 Savage

Here's the other
0900-1200 Tammy Bruce
1200-1400 O'Reily
1400-1500 Dr Laura
1500-1800 Glenn Beck
1800-2000 (Local talk)

I guess now that we control congress, and it's obvious that a majority of American supported the Democrats in this last election, any second now, we'll get some liberal talk on one of these stations.

I'm not holding my breath.

[shadowknows69]

37. They would do well to know

that the nightmare scenarios played out in 24 are the attacks that WILL come if we keep helping the extremists recruit new and willing martyrs by fucking in affairs that aren't ours and killing wives, and husbands, mothers, sons, daughters and fathers.

[applegrove]

39. It is okay. The Heritage Institute announced that they were aware 24

was only a TV show...That was a close one. LOL