hey guys, 24 is FICTION

[ButterflyBlood]

No, it's not realistic with its portrayal of terrorism. But hey, Buffy the Vampire Slayer wasn't too realistic either, and I still watched that. If you don't want to see anything on TV that isn't 100% real, then you better not watch anything but documentaries on The Discovery Channel.

Yes, it has Muslim terrorists as the villains this season. And yes, Muslim terrorists exist. No, they aren't the only terrorists, and the show is pretty clear on this as every single season so far has consisted of non-Muslim and usually white bad guys. It's also pretty damn clear from this season that it's saying that not every terrorist is a Muslim. If you think one non-white villain in a show means the show is racist trash, you're just perpetuating the stupid stereotype of "politically correct" liberals right wingers love to throw around.

Whining about the show is akin to Holy Joe's whining about violent video games. Take a chill pill.

[babylonsister]

1. Thank You. Who's feeding the anti-'24' frenzy? nt

[Connie_Corleone]

4. The media.

They're going crazy because of the nuke going off in the States on the show. The show has to keep it's audience somehow. It calls for more dramatic storylines.

[Connie_Corleone]

2. The president was the bad guy last season.

He tried to stage terrorist attacks, blame it on Muslims, and he did it for the oil.

[ButterflyBlood]

3. Funny thing is, the Freepers were probably screaming the same things then

n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

6. I read one of the freeper threads on it.

They were actually comparing the president to Kerry. Idiots.

[dogman]

10. I thought he was Lieberman myself.

Both his physical appearance and his delusional sellout of the Constitution.

[Windy]

18. I thought it was bush....

stupid to the world, but a coniving dangerous, powerhungry egomanic behind the scenes

[Buck Rabbit]

28. The actor looked like and had Nixon's mannerisms. And his

wife was a take off of Martha Mitchell.

The actions were pure Bush though.

[billbuckhead]

5. No. it's propaganda from Faux to scare Americans

[Windy]

16. Homeland Securty Dept. is no CTU and the US government

is more worried about protecting Iraq than the US. They destablized this country by going into Iraq and created more terrorists. With this administration, if terrorists did start attacks on our soil, we would be doomed!! And I think that the VP or whoever McNichol is playing in the show is Cheney made over.. slime ball who wants to take away all of our civil liberties! The building of internment camps and the bigotry prevelant in the plot of the show against all muslim americans is exactly what would happen and how the freepers would react if we were attacked on our soil. Which is more likely to happen with every dangerous misstep this administration takes.

But it is ONLY fiction...and I must admit that I enjoy watching it.

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. Thanks, I didn't see the other 90 threads telling me this

Some days DU really pushes my buttons.

[EstimatedProphet]

8. Sorry, but I have to disagree

It is fiction yes, but unfortunately we have Republidiots who don't understand that the reason the plot works on the show with torture and fighting the evil terrorists is because it's written that way. We actually have people point to the show as a guide, as if it were a documentary!

[Seen the light]

9. It's not 24's fault that people are morons nt

[Kagemusha]

Well said. They cherry-pick from 24 like Cheney picks from CIA intel (nt)

nt

[EstimatedProphet]

21. I'm not cherry-picking a damn thing

Pay attention to what I am actually saying.

[Kagemusha]

23. Uh, I meant right-wingers do. Sorry.

No offense meant to be directed at you. Only silly Republicans.

[EstimatedProphet]

19. Maybe not, but we are the ones that have to deal with it

[elocs]

11. Just remember this for any other fictional show in the future

that you DON'T like and have some problem with. The freepers and Cheney love 24, so that is a good enough reason and testimonial for me not to watch it. Plus, it's a Fox show. What about a fictional show that belittled and made fun of Liberals and Democratic issues and was entertaining--would that be ok to watch too? No objections to that? It's easy to rationalize your choices when it is a show you like.

[Connie_Corleone]

13. South Park makes fun of liberals all the time.

I know there are many people on DU who watch that too.

If someone doesn't like a fictional show, they don't watch it.

[ButterflyBlood]

14. Sure, I already watch such a show

It's called The Daily Show. It's beloved on this forum, and anyone who honestly thinks they've never made fun of Democrats is in serious denial.

[fishwax]

24. you let right-wingers determine what shows you watch?

The freepers and Cheney love 24, so that is a good enough reason and testimonial for me not to watch it.

[elocs]

29. In this case, absolutely yes.

I do consider that since the freepers and Cheney so love 24 that is as good a reason as any not to watch it. Guess what? I am not alone here at DU with that belief and my reasons for not wanting to watch 24 are just as valid as yours for watching it. There are people here who refuse to watch a network, such as ABC, because they believe that the network supports right wing ideals. So are they too allowing freepers to determine what they watch? Ultimately, opinions are like assholes--everybody has one.

[fishwax]

30. I'm not willing to cede control of my viewing habits to the whims of the right wing

When I hear right-wingers rave about something, it certainly gets my radar up, and I'm likely to watch it with a more critical eye than I might otherwise. But I wouldn't let that keep me from watching it at all. You're welcome, of course, to watch or not watch any TV show for whatever reason you see fit. :)

The boycott of ABC is an entirely different thing, as that is driven (in most cases, I assume), by the individual's OWN analysis and interpretation of the content, rather than being driven by a negative reaction to someone else's approval.

[fishnfla]

12. OMFG!!!! REALLY?

This is rich. You have to post here to tell us a TV show is not real?

Case closed

[illinoisprogressive]

15. Thanks. I don't see the big deal. it's a tv program. so?

[Catch22Dem]

17. Sure, next you're gonna tell me The DaVinci code was fake

and try to convince me to cancel my DaVinci Code book burning party.

[babylonsister]

20. ...

:spray:

[Sherman A1]

22. And very boring fiction too boot!

[Malikshah]

25. So is propaganda in general. To feed into a culture of fear and militarism

whether it's TV or not is not helpful.

We have years of JAG, NCIS, The Unit, 24, Sleeper Cell, on down the line. To top things off--show after endless show depicting new and more ingenious ways to kill people. Then we marry folks off on TV, glorify the tearing down of peoples dreams and ambitions (Apprentice, Idol anyone) and idolize overly rich heiresses who 1) would scare a troll into fits and 2) don't appear to have the ability to do more than be space holders in the lemming machine (I mean really, Paris couldn't even be a good organ donor)

Our shows, in an effort to be more "real", tend to go for the jugular and ultimately dehumanize.

As for the OP reference-- Think of any virulent piece of racist, anti-semitic, homophobic BS-- they're all fiction. That's what propaganda is.

24 is not drama.

It's trauma for the most "whorific" of reasons.

We should be better than this.

AND most importantly--the makers of this show and others like it absolve themselves of any responsibility. They want to make a mark-- they want to be edgy and influential-- nothing at all wrong with that. But if their "creation" a la Frankenstein's monster kills a villager or two, or 100,000, or more (hell, Iran's covered in bullseyes right now) they will fall over themselves to argue that their show had no influence and that folks can tell the difference between "fiction" and "reality."

How frikkin disingenuous can they get?

[Junkdrawer]

26. What Malikshah said...

:thumbsup:

[babylonsister]

27. .