Is "The Simpsons" pro-nuclear propoganda?

[bananas]

Homer works at a nuclear power plant.
Isn't this pro-nuclear propoganda?

[mikelgb]

1. bananas indeed

[shadowknows69]

36. have you ever watched the show?

especially lately?

[xultar]

2. American Dad is CIA propaganda for dayum sure.

[drm604]

3. ROFL

:rofl:

[Connie_Corleone]

6. Absolutely.

American Dad tried to kill Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland! Uh oh! Donald Sutherland is Kiefer Sutherland's father!!

DAMN YOU DONALD SUTHERLAND!! If it wasn't for you, "24" would've never happened!!

[Windy]

9. hahahahahahahahaha

Just as absurd as this ridiculous bickering over a fictional character...

[WindRavenX]

10. lol

:rofl:

[salin]

7. Beauty and the Geek - Right wing attempt

to sell the virtues of shallow vapidness over intellect - in order to subliminally sell us all on the idea of shallow/vapid Supreme Court nominations... its all a conspiracy to get us to get behind shrub when he re-nominates Harriet Myers to the SC at the next opening. (Not that she could remotely qualify for a 'beauty' on the show).

:evil grin:

[Windy]

19. American Idol and Wife Swap too!

a plot for sure!! Keep 'em dumb!

[salin]

25. Esp the "vote shows" ala American Idol

and some of the other reality shows (dancing with stars type shows) - "Your Vote Counts" - (?) per chosin the "winner" Hey who needs to vote in elections about leading our country - about the policies our country (per those elected officials) but You can help Select the Winner... on a reality TV show.

:-(

[ironflange]

40. And Family Guy is propaganda for, , , uh. . .

Dumb obnoxious fat guys, I guess.

[Ioo]

4. Yes, You found them out, After 20 years you have cracked the code...

:P

[Little Wing]

5. Seinfeld glorifies the Zionification of New York City

[kikiek]

8. Have you ever actually watched it? They don't glamorize nuclear power & actually do the opposite.

[BattyDem]

11. Not sure ... but it's definitely "pro-donut" and "pro-beer"

:evilgrin:

[Guaranteed]

12. I don't know about the Simpsons, but Fox News sure is. nt

[originalpckelly]

13. I can't tell you how many times I've debated someone about torture...

and they started by saying they were a fan of 24.

However, that doesn't mean everything on FOX is propaganda. Be reasonable.

[Buck Rabbit]

23. How do these "friends of 24" deal with it's constant indictments of Neocons.

In virtually every season of 24 the true villains have always turned out to be neoconish insiders and power brokers attempting to manipulate terror to pursue right wing agendas and war for profit.

I won't bet against that happening before this season ends either.

The torture is a tool required by the "real time" constraint of the show. No time for legitimate interrogations within the pace required of the show. Because of its ambitious format viewers are required to give the show tremendous leeway and suspend plausibility. If you do, it is a camp, Perils of Pauline, Indiana Jones adrenaline filled fiction.

My suggestion in arguing with someone stupid enough to use 24 as a vindication of torture is to turn it around on them and point out how 24 proves that terrorism is almost always a false flag manipulation by the "secret" right wing American ruling class.

[Junkdrawer]

14. Simpsons good...."24" bad... n/t

[Kerrytravelers]

15. Ever watched the show?

That would be a good starting point.

[bananas]

16. The acting is horrible.

The characters are so two-dimensional.
They have no depth at all.

[xultar]

17. Not realistic at all. You'd think with propaganda they'd do better.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

27. I agree.

MMMffff. MKJ

UM, damnnit, dont make me :rofl: MKJ

[Kerrytravelers]

18. LOL!

I hope you just forgot the :sarcasm: or the :rofl: , otherwise, I'm :scared: .

[bananas]

32. LOL - sometimes it can be hard to tell

so for the record - :sarcasm: :rofl:

[BattyDem]

20. Homer did show some depth once ... but it didn't last

:evilgrin:

[Buck Rabbit]

26. It glorifies torturers like Nelson Muntz!!

Many gullible DUers have fallen for Fox's propaganda and now idolize this torturing villain in numerous posts on this board. To those who have been brainwashed into quoting this bully and posting his picture all over Du, I say to you, "Ha Ha!"

[IntravenousDemilo]

31. Except for that one Hallowe'en episode where Homer goes through a wormhole or sumpin' like that. n/m

[Nutmegger]

21. Why does it matter?

You don't have to watch you know.

[Kurovski]

22. With Blinky the three-eyed fish as the official emblem for nuclear power?

All the near-meltdowns, and with Homer (the safety inspector) every bit as incompetent as George W. Bush?

It's a GREAT promotional tool! :bounce:

--This is a parody of an earlier thread today, isn't it?:-)

[bananas]

28. Yes, several threads. nt

[Kurovski]

34. It struck me funny bone as such. (nt)

[bananas]

38. All the threads on "24" - here's a list

There are probably a few more...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3128788&mesg_id=3128788

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3135320&mesg_id=3135320

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3134889&mesg_id=3134889

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3135257&mesg_id=3135257

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3135685

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3129784&mesg_id=3129784

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3134601

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3133977

[bananas]

29. (dupe)

DU multi-posted on me.

[bananas]

30. (dupe)

DU multi-posted on me.

[Zhade]

24. No. But you WOULD be surprised how illiberal things slip by in that show.

Used to love The Simpsons - years of watching two hours every day for work had a lot to do with that - but there were some things that made me raise an eyebrow.

Like Homer telling Bart he doesn't care how he chooses to live, in the episode where he thinks Bart is gay. That one bothered me a lot, because it wasn't pointed out that IT'S NOT A CHOICE.

Or their having total monsters like Poppy Bush on, and showcasing him as a harmless old crank. Um, no. Hundreds of thousands of innocents people died under his policies.

Hard-core rightwingery? No. Subtly allowing bullshit memes to pass by unchallenged on occasion? Yes.

That's my problem with 24 - torture doesn't work, yet they pimp it as if it does and is okay sometimes. That's enough for me to say "no thanks".

[Ignacio Upton]

33. The Simpsons gets in a few digs at the GOP

They had this awesome episode about 10 years ago where they got in several digs at the GOP, where Sideshow Bob rigs the Mayoral election and is brought down in a fashion similar to Watergate. One of the characters involved in that episode was a guy who was a parody of Limbaugh.

[fujiyama]

37. LOL

I think your taking it a bit too seriously.

Bush Sr came off as a dick in the episode he moves into the neighborhood...and sure enough at the end of the episode, is forced to leave. OTOH, it showed Ford to be harmless and easygoing ("Do you like football and beer?"). And that episode with Homer and Bart going to the factory is classic and aired in a time when gays were never even featured on TV.

I'm not sure if those are good examples of "illiberal" things slipping by, though of course there have been, which is fine. I don't expect every piece of entertainment to agree with my political beliefs. Besides, the show has no political bent (and until recent seasons its sole purpose was simply to make fun of society).

As for "24", I can see people getting the idea it promotes torture and RW policies, but it's also mindless fun. It also has no easily identifiable ideology (bad guys are corporate crooks - oil and gas types, a president staging a terrorist attack to gain access to oil, etc).

[Kurovski]

39. Didn't Homer also fight GHWB hand to hand?

I seem to recall they ended up in the sewer.

Babs was made out to be a sweet li'l ole gramma. Hilarious!!

[On the Road]

35. No, It Is Anti-Nuclear Propaganda

The dangers of nuclear power are illustrated by an incompetent boob like Homer being in charge of safety.

There are many, many examples of dangerous safety lapses and human error, even if they're handled in a humorous way. The president, Mr Burns is a selfish, evil figure. I can't think of any positive treatment of nuclear power on the show.

[spoony]

43. How about it's no kind of propaganda?

It certainly isn't pro, but you can't say it's anti either. You say it illustrates the "dangers of nuclear power" but it really doesn't. That place is not set up anything like a nuke plant, isn't run like a nuke plant, has no similarities to a nuke plant at all really. So whatever Homer is botching up is entirely encased in the fictional world of Springfield.

[On the Road]

44. It is Absolutely Intentional

and absolutely has an effect on audience perceptions. It was not an accident that Matt Groening chose a nuclear plant as Homer's employer. Homer is the perfect illustration of how human error can turn a facility with (theoretically) the best safety regimen into a ticking time bomb.

Now, if Homer worked in an alternative energy facility and which constantly screwed up, failed to perform, or couldn't generate sufficient power, that would be right-wing propaganda.

[Cleita]

41. Are you series? That's part of the joke.

Also, his boss, Mr. Burns, is evil personified.

[deepthought42]

42. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson...

"Nuk-u-ler. It's pronounced 'nuk-u-ler'," LOL...With Homer in charge of safety at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant, you KNOW they're not pro-nuclear...