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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:27 PM
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What is "an appropriate way to dissent"?
NBC's David Gregory posed this question to White House Press Secretary today, and true to form, Snow never answered the question.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Felectioncentral.tpmcafe.com%2Fblog%2Felectioncentral%2F2007%2Fjan%2F16%2Fgregory_asks_snow_whats_an_appropriate_way_to_dissent

The Bush administration has demonstrated that they consider appropriate forms of dissent to either be restricted to out-of-sight-out-of mind "free speech" zones or silent protest. Neither one seems to be particularly effective.

What do you think is an appropriate way to publicly express dissent towards the President and his policies? Opposition? Protesting? Legal action? Something more creative?
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:29 PM
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1. DISSENT IS CRIMETHINK.
CRIMETHINK IS PLUSUNGOOD.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:29 PM
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2. Pretty much anything short of damage (to humans and property). nt.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:31 PM
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3. I am GOING to get really close on 1/27 to where dimson can hear me;
me and thousands of other people. And I hope I go hoarse from yelling my discontent. So that would be protesting.
I also am in awe of the ACLU. They fight for us legally, and I wish more people would appreciate that.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:43 PM
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4. The link didn't have the text of the Press Briefing exchange...
so here it is. Courtesy of the White House webpage.


Q Can I just follow on that, because in the run-up to the campaign in the fall, if you were a Democrat who supported troop withdrawal, then you were branded -- from this podium and by the President -- as basically supporting terrorists; that if you made that statement, then "the terrorists would win and the U.S. would lose." That's a direct quote from the President.

Then there's an election where the American people, the President acknowledges, speak out against the war. Democrats get power, they're making a move to send a political statement that says we're opposed to this troop increase. And you're saying now the ramifications of that are is that it sends a bad signal to the enemy and to our troops.

So what is an appropriate way to dissent?

MR. SNOW: No, I said, you just take a look at what ramifications they may have. That's all I'm saying. I said that they have to make a calculation. I don't -- you can go back and look at the transcript, but there's no direct -- there's --

Q But aren't you suggesting that there's a negative ramification?

MR. SNOW: I'm suggesting that they need to think it through. And it is certainly appropriate for people to dissent. There's going to be a lot of dissent, we have acknowledged that all along. And, as a matter of fact, it's important to debate this and also to debate the proposition if, as most Democrats who have visited the President and most we've heard from, want to succeed in Iraq, if you think there's an alternative way to do it, you can really help your country by putting it forward. Because the President has invited all points of view, and we understand that in the process of winning in Iraq you have to have public support, it is helpful to have political unity and it is essential to have a full and informed public debate.

Q Just to be clear, do you believe that a non-binding resolution that opposes a troop increase, does that provide comfort to the enemy?

MR. SNOW: I don't know. I think -- the question again is, does this send a signal that the United States is divided on the key element of success in Iraq. And I will let members of Congress express themselves, because I'm sure they're going to say, no, we're committed to success, and then they can elucidate on that point.

Q Doesn't the President acknowledge that the country is divided and --

MR. SNOW: The President of course -- yes, absolutely.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:49 PM
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5. Thank you!
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:01 PM
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6. No problem.
It's always nice to see the actual exchange, although I tend to get pissed off as I read through the transcript because it reminds me how callous and arrogant these bastards really are.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:03 PM
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7. How about
"What's an effective way?"

If your dissent is "appropriate" but ineffective is it really worthwhile?

Who decides what is "appropriate?" Do we have an excess of civility?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:03 PM
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8. Anyway one sees fit within the constitutional guarantees
that are now criminally withheld from us.
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Magical Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 12:45 AM
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9. Tell the Truth
The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Lots of inconvenient truths...
Of course, even some of those aren't 'allowed' here...
Or shall we say they are politically incorrect or perhaps 'conspiracy theories'...
I can think of two glaring examples...that somehow still manage to evade the dedicated truthseekers of DU...
Despite overwhelming evidence...hard physical evidence...
Let us just say...no matter how much a lie is repeated...it is still a lie...
And believing a lie does not make it true...although it may make one feel much more comfortable...
Long live the truth...and those who seek the truth and who come under attack.
Until the truth is faced...one is living in a fantasy world...
And we all know where that leads...brainwashed borgs doing the bidding of liars.
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