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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:05 PM
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East Side Art Dealer Sues Homeless Men
The NY Sun
1/17/07


A high-end antique dealer on the Upper East Side is suing four unnamed homeless people for $1 million on the grounds that they've driven away customers by loitering on the sidewalk in "old, warn, and unsanitary clothing and cardboard boxes and old blankets which they convert into sleeping accommodations."

In addition to money, Karl Kemp & Associates Antiques, located near 69th Street at 833 Madison Ave. near Gucci, Chanel, and Prada, is asking a Manhattan Supreme Court judge to force the homeless defendants to stay at least 100 feet away from the store, according to legal papers filed yesterday.

For more than two years, the papers allege, the homeless have spent "significant amounts of time" obstructing Karl Kemp's storefront window display, "consuming alcoholic beverages from open bottles, performing various bodily functions such as urinating or spitting on the sidewalk, and…verbally harassing or intimidating … prospective customers."

A saleswoman at Karl Kemp, whose Web site says specializes in "rare Biedermeier and Art Deco" furniture, referred questions to its attorney, who didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment.


http://www.nysun.com/article/46814

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Reading this I'm reminded of the movie KOYAANISQATSI (1982) - The title is a Hopi Indian word meaning "life out of balance."




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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:06 PM
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1. That'll teach 'em
Whatever will those homeless guys do with a million dollar judgement against them. They might lose their homes. Oh, wait...

Dumbass.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:06 PM
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2. Oh fer chrissakes!
By all means, sir, these pieces of filth must be taken off the streets. They DO clutter the landscape, you know. :sarcasm:
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:07 PM
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3. i wonder how much money they hope to be awarded. eom
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:09 PM
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4. (Dupe) this will never make it through
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 04:12 PM by Goblinmonger
summary judgement.

(My computer did some weird crap and dupe posted this over a long period :shrug: )
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:12 PM
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5. here's hoping the resulting boycott costs them far more
I'd hand the homeless folks pickets and let them walk a line in front of the store.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:14 PM
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6. What a genius! I love this guy, I can't wait to peruse his gallery
it must be full of velvet portraits of Reagan and Dogs Playing Poker!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:14 PM
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7. I Hope They Counter Sue For A Million And Win
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 04:15 PM by Wiley50
Any DU NY Lawyers willing to take the case?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:18 PM
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8. I'm not sure what I think about this.
On one hand, a business person who pays rent to operate in a particular location and whose profits rely on people coming to and entering their business should have some recourse if people are intentionally hindering their operation.

On the other hand, these are homeless men, human beings who have nowhere to live. They can't just be shuffled off indefinitely, ignored as long as they are someone else's problem. Certainly there is a better way to deal with them, if we aren't going to solve the root problems of poverty in the first place.

It bothers me that this situation exists at all.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:37 PM
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13. You make a Good Point, Porphyrian
This is not a Black or White issue, nor one to make a summary judgement on.

Very frustrating on both sides.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:34 PM
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9. so he'll win $1m worth of dirty clothes and cardboard? nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:34 PM
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10. instead of spending money on their high-priced law firm, why doesn't this gallery give the money to
one of the local shelters, so that these men would have somewhere to GO?
and, if they are in the high-rent district, are the other shops having this problem? if not, why this particular shop?

I suspect there is more to the story, as usual.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:38 PM
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14. yup, just give the street guys the attorneys' fees
and they would probably be able to rent at least a studio. Misplaced priorities...

and by the way, how does one get blood from a turnip???
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:34 PM
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11. Good Luck collecting
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:37 PM
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12. These folks have to be republicons
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 05:19 PM by SpiralHawk
What would Jesus do?

Not that any of the republicons give a shit.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:39 PM
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15. Our society is coming apart
The superrich suing homeless people because they are homeless in his presence...

This is just so fucking stupid and venal there's no words for it.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:32 PM
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19. Just a roof would be worth more then any piece or art....
...if your homeless. I can't think of a greater disparity. A homeless person vs a high end specialty art dealer.

Whereas for most buying a collectors' art piece is a luxury - just having a roof and warm bed would be for someone living on the streets.

Yea, no words for it.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:40 PM
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16. Suggestion take the money you spend for lawyers and
buy the poor guys a house with housekeeper and new wardrobes...
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bluewave Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:45 PM
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17. I'd pay them to go away
Seems less costly than hiring attorneys.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:52 PM
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18. I happen to know the Karl Kemp
store they're talking about -- as I bought a fair number of antiques during a recent renovation for my apartment in NY -- and it's widely known that the stuff he has is sh*t. Oftentimes they'll claim something is from a certain period when it's obvious it's from a later period, etc and so on. I think the store is trying to find a way to rationalize the loss of business they've experienced due to the fact that those who are successful helping other people furnish their homes have been going elsewhere for some time. At least he's back in the news, right?
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