What kind of person is Dinesh D'Souza?

[dsc]

Outing gays at Dartmouth

As editor of the Dartmouth Review, D'Souza stole correspondence from the school's Gay Student Alliance and published it, outing several gay students to friends and family and driving one to consider suicide. When The Nation published an article claiming that D'Souza had stolen the correspondence, D'Souza wrote asking for a retraction, calling the piece "lies from the loony left", and sending articles which he said would clear his name. But bizarrely, the articles he included showed that the claim was true - they included a piece written under his byline that featured excerpts from gay students' correspondence.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Dinesh_D'Souza

This is personal to me. I made a mistake a big mistake in college and was faced with being outed by a supposed friend. As a result, I made the decision to commit suicide to avoid telling my parents. What saved me was my incompetence. I had no way to eliminate the evidence of my being gay so I didn't kill myself. I made it to the other side. These people outed by Ingram and D'Souza weren't public figures. They weren't people who were powerful. They were barely adults, confused and scared.

People who target the powerless are scum, pure and simple. It an ideal world, these people would be shunned. No one would take their ravings seriously. Instead they make their living blaming all the world's ills on the very people they have targetted. The fact that conservatives support and read the writings of these people tell us all we need to know about them.

[physioex]

1. Yet another thug....

The likes of Hammity, El Drugbo far removed from reality......

[MonkeyFunk]

2. he's a douchebag

oh wait... he's a prick. No... um...

He's a very very bad man.

[rpgamerd00d]

19. Damn you, you beat me to it! :)

[EdwardM]

41. Watch out for those PC police.

They will hold you indefinitely with no trial!!

[stevedeshazer]

3. I could not agree more with your take.

Dinesh D'Souza is a contemptible bastard for doing that.

[eleny]

4. He was the guest on Colbert last night

He was relaying the administration talking points. His book title asserts that the left wing has responsibility for 9/11.

[progdonkey]

9. Colbert absolutely mopped the floor with him...

:headbang:

[eleny]

12. Yes, he did a good job of it

Funny how he kept telling D'S that he was in agreement with him.

[pat_k]

35. It was a joy to behold. ("The Word" was great too)

[The Count]

5. Also a racist...I remember him praising The Bell Curve...

[high density]

6. Never heard of him before Colbert last night

And I probably will never heard of him again, either, unless DUers keep bringing it up. :)

[dsc]

8. He has written two best selling books

and was all over the tv in the late 1990's. He is hardly unknown.

[progdonkey]

10. He used to date Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham (was engaged to latter at one point)...

I don't know what's more disgusting and pathetic: their dating him or his dating them.

[eleny]

13. Let me add....

e-w-w-w-w

[regnaD kciN]

49. Wait a minute, here...

How can a guy be anti-gay and date Ann Coulter? :evilgrin:

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

45. I'm with you...

... and the less people talk about him, the sooner he'll fade into the obscurity that he warrants. That is not a thinking person. He is a waste of pixels... an "oxygen thief" if you will. Therein lies a bunch of hydrocarbons that would be better utilised as a bowl of petunias.

If he was actually any danger, I would support efforts to quash him. As he stands, DU should be more concerned with whatever I scraped off my left shoe today: it holds more threat to humanity than Humourless D'Echochamber.

[charlie]

7. Another rightwing lickspittle

who owes us for keeping the right at bay. If his side took over, he'd find his sorry brown ass stuffed into a white Nehru jacket, serving gin and tonics on a country club fairway the very next day.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. LOL!

[Rex]

11. Colbert exposed an ugly RW truth - morans like D'Souza are

considered 'experts' by their RW peers. Another reason why the GOP is going the way of the loon. At first I thought they were stupid, because I hate them and their behavior towards living creatures. Now I see that I was right, they are stupid just as a matter of the way RW culture breeds them into a certain mindset. No wonder they stay blameless. :eyes:

[EdwardM]

43. He is doing what the right wingers claim the "radical left" wants to do.

He wants to surrender to the terrorists. He wants to ban gay marriage and do other crap like that to please the terrorists and make Bin Laden Happy. Well I say fuck him and fuck bin Laden, I will do what I want, and I don't care what any terrorist thinks. Must I quote Ben Franklin "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"


Also let this be a lesson for O'reilly, Colbert is waiting for you tommorrow, and he will show no mercy just like he did to Mr. I love Terrorists.

[Fenris]

15. He agrees with bin Laden on many points.

He seems to think that bin Laden wants to destroy America because of feminists, abortion, secularism...everything the right associates with the left. Essentially, he and bin Laden hate America for the same reasons, only since d'Souza lives here, he doesn't want to blow it up.

[kitkat65]

42. Then wouldn't that make him a bin Laden sympathizer?

He hates what bin Laden supposedly hates.

[KG]

16. if he don't like it in america, maybe he should just go back where he came from!

[burythehatchet]

18. that's a vile statement, worthy of the worst type of conservative

In fact that's exactly what wingers say to me when I protest the actions of the government.

[kysrsoze]

21. Only problem is... he DOES hate America. Did you hear the things he said?

I have to say I kind of agree with KG.

[burythehatchet]

25. dupe

[burythehatchet]

26. Yes I did hear what he said. In my opinion he is filthy

disgusting sack-o'-shit. BUt why must we use the same tired bullshit sound bites that republicks use? "He hates America" is one of those little nuggets that do absolutely nothing to promote debate. Its one of THEIR tactics. If you feel comfortable using their approach that's your prerogative. But understand that you may be called on it. If he actually declared his hatred of America I suspect he might move somewhere else, but since he hasn't left a deeper analysis may be warranted. No, what he hates are the principles that this country was founded upon. Those principles are the subject of a concerted right wing attack. Would I cry if he left America? No. Would I tell him to leave America because I think he's as asshole? No. It saddens me that he and I share the same heritage.

[KG]

31. seems the sarcasm evaded you.

[burythehatchet]

32. Thanks for that, it didn't sound like you

:)

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[terrya]

17. He's another right wing shitstain.

I remember reading about that incident and realizing then what a sad, little, pathetic excuse for a human being he is. He hasn't changed one goddamned bit, either.

Your story is heartbreaking. I'm so glad you were incompentent that day.

You are so right about him and others like him. To target ordinary gay men and women like that...vile beyond belief. As you said, scum. Nothing more.

[dsc]

20. Thanks

I was out of town and it was before the internet and faxes made communication all but instantanious. I couldn't figure out how to get in touch with my roommate and tell him to get rid of my collection. I am glad I couldn't find a way now too. D'Souza is the worst kind of scum.

[NorthernSpy]

24. glad you're still here!

I've never met this D'Souza person, but he sounds like a walking personality disorder.

:puke:

[dsc]

27. thanks

It was a tough time. Looking back on it, it was pretty silly but it is easy to get wrapped up in that fear.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

22. He's an immigrant from India who hates affirmative action

(never mind that his own status as an immigrant probably gave him extra points with the Dartmouth admissions office), and his own explanation for why he became a conservative suggests deep closet problems.

He said that after he first arrived on campus, he happened upon a gay dance, saw men dancing together and being affectionate to each other, and was so upset that he went around campus asking whether there was any organization on campus that was opposed to such "depravity." Someone pointed him in the direction of the infamous Dartmouth Review, and that was the beginning of his career as a right-wing mouthpiece.

[burythehatchet]

28. Meaning he is as gay as he wants to be.

[terrya]

30. I don't see that.

Actually, I think he's a heterosexual man who's a total scumbucket.

[burythehatchet]

33. I wouldn't want him on my team either

:)

[NorthernSpy]

23. D'Spewza is the real incompetent!

... as this exchange from The Colbert Report demonstrates:

COLBERT: This book is a revelation to me. Okay, It’s called “The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11.” Okay, I’ve been trying to figure this one out for a while. Walk me through it. How did the liberals plan 9/11? Go.

D’SOUZA: Well, first of all, the liberals convinced Jimmy Carter to withdraw American support for a valuable ally, the Shah of Iran. The United States pulled the Persian rug out from under the Shah, and who did we get — Khomeini? In trying to get back at the bad guy, we got the worst guy.

COLBERT: But Reagan got back at those bastards by selling them those Hawk missiles in the 80s, right? He showed them a thing or two about American muscle by giving them some –

D’SOUZA: Well, he also sent some, he sent missiles to Khadafi, which put him out of the terrorism trade. Here’s the second point. In the 1990s, the radical Muslims launched a bunch of attacks — the Khobar Towers, the embassies, the USS Cole. President Clinton did absolutely nothing, and bin Laden said, you know what, the United States is a bunch of cowards. That’s why, he says, he was emboldened to strike on 9/11.

COLBERT: But is all the responsibility Carter and Clinton’s? Doesn’t some of it lie at FDR’s doorstep? Doesn’t things like Social Security and Medicare and LBJ’s Great Society, doesn’t some of that send the wrong message to our enemies, that America cares about domestic issues and not just about foreign policy?

D’SOUZA: Indirectly, yes, here’s why.

COLBERT: I can’t wait. Can I guess? We never got to see him standing up, and, therefore, America doesn’t stand up for its principles?

D’SOUZA: No, FDR gave away Eastern Europe through Yalta, and then the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, the Muslims had to fight back and that’s where bin Laden got his start.

Gawd, where does one even start?

:wow:

[mvd]

29. Just another right-wing fundy who gives us..

progressive Christians a bad name.

[Nickster]

34. He's a piece of crap and I'm glad you're still with us. n/t

[dsc]

44. thanks

as I said above, it is one of those things that in retrospect I feel so stupid about, but at the time it seemed like a great idea.

[Cleita]

36. He seems to be another extreme right wing kool-aid drinker.

He was on Steve Colbert last night because he wrote a book blaming the left wing for 9-11. In his twisting of logic he said 9-11 happened because ME Asians consider all Americans depraved and morally corrupt because they see all the immoral things the lefties do, I guess drugs, sex and rock and roll. He said that's what motivates them to hate us and why Osama attacked us. It's all the lefties fault.

:crazy:

I guess he is a gay hating, woman hating, anyone who wants to rise above their caste hating type of conservative.

:puke:

[salin]

38. would agree but with a caveat...

he isn't just a kook-aid drinker - he seems to be trying to pour the kool-aid down other peoples' throats... his rhetoric fuels the already fearful into rages against other americans - I think his rhetoric is dangerous - sort of encouraging the unstable to act out - against other Americans.

[Tom Joad]

39. He's also proslavery, racist piece of smoldering idiocy.

No wonder he's big in the Republican world.

[Initech]

40. Ah. Just another right wing fundy asshole.

[devilgrrl]

46. He was today's "WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD" on Countdown

Very fitting.

[fujiyama]

47. A very nasty person

THe idiot kept going on about how Islamic fundamentalists hate the US for its values. Colbert handled him well: "So you basically agree with bin Laden?"

[mitchum]

48. The world is richer because you are still here

D'Souza has been mouthing the same babble for over 20 years now.
Incredible.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

50. Dinesh was practice for tonight.

glad you were incompetent re: your intentions. The world is a better place.

[dsc]

52. thanks

[Norquist Nemesis]

51. That he feels the need to qualify an accusation of lies with "from

the loony left" it exposes him as a partisan polemic. He probably has photos of Newt and Coultergeist on his bedside table.

[Bronyraurus]

53. Assuming that's true

that's hideous.

[dsc]

54. Oh, it's true all right

The article appeared and it was clear what they had done. The only point of quibbling is whether it was correspondence or taping of a secret meeting.

[Bronyraurus]

55. What was the point of the outing?

[dsc]

57. Honestly I am not entirely sure

I think it was to intimidate the group from being an active participant on campus, though again I can't be sure of that.

[Bronyraurus]

60. Jeepers

Certain parts of this country need to be a bit more cosmopolitan about homosexuality. Where I live in Florida, it is certainly NOT an option. One reason why I wasn't mortified when Charlie Crist won the governor's mansion (not a Republican!) is because if he is actually gay, these yokels could use a little familiarity with that.

[dsc]

62. He may or may not be gay

but he isn't openly gay and he isn't all that good on gay issues. You need to remember that this was decades ago long before the several gay civil rights victories we have seen.

[Bronyraurus]

63. I know it

And I think that much of the country has made good progress on this point. But I'm from the northeast, and when I moved down to Florida I was shocked at offhand, anti-gay remarks I heard in public. Sure, people up north used "gay" as a derogatory term, and called each other homos and whatnot, but those same people wouldn't think twice about having a gay friend (and saying that stuff in front of them). Down here, (otherwise decent) people have a way of letting you know that homosexuals are NOT welcome. I feel bad for the poor son-of-a-gun who grows up gay in the heartland and has to geographically relocate just to feel normal!

[dsc]

64. I grew up in rural Ohio and heard some pretty vile names

to be honest. Fortunately it is getting better, even in the South but it is slower than anyone would like.

[Bronyraurus]

67. Grow up, for christ's sake

Get out of your church, talk to some people, start applying your faith to your everyday life! Leave dudes who want to hump dudes alone with their weirdness, if you think it's so damn weird!

Not you, y'understand.

[dsc]

68. My former classmates have grown up for the most part

I went to my 20th reunion and was pleasently surprized at the fact they were OK with my being gay. We even had a gay couple show up and they were the hit of the night.

[Bronyraurus]

70. Well good!

[dsc]

65. I grew up in rural Ohio and heard some pretty vile names

to be honest. Fortunately it is getting better, even in the South but it is slower than anyone would like.

[devilgrrl]

59. Assuming? It's been a known fact for the past 20 years...

where have you been?

[Bronyraurus]

61. Er,

Not paying rapt attention to a third-rate right-winger's activities as an undergraduate, apparently. Where have you been?

[Swamp Rat]

56. Stealing mail is a federal crime.

Why isn't this asshole in prison?

[dsc]

58. because it was college mail not national mail

Ie some sort of delivery system from one Dartmouth student to another.

[Swamp Rat]

66. Then he would need specific permission to do this by the Chancellor, or

officials in the Office of the President and/or the Office of the General Counsel of the Regents, or officials from the FBI/Homeland Security. His misdeeds on campus could be prosecuted in federal court if it can be proven that he jeopardized internal and therefore federal security.

I just read Dartmouth rules and regulations. He violated more than one policy.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/

He violated the Information Technology Policy:

(snip)

"Privacy

Members of the Dartmouth community have reasonable expectations of privacy in their use of information resources, in accordance with this policy. State and federal law, and Dartmouth policy, prohibits unauthorized access to computer and telephone systems. No one should use aliases, nicknames, pointers, or other electronic means to capture information intended for others without permission of the intended recipient. Attempts to gain unauthorized access to machines or computer records, to decrypt encrypted materials, to monitor other individuals’ computer or network use, to attempt to obtain their passwords, or to obtain privileges or information to which the user is not entitled, are prohibited."

(snip)

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/it-policy.html

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He violated the Right to Privacy Policy:

"Right to Privacy

No individual or organization shall install or use any device for listening to, observing, photographing, recording, amplifying, transmitting, or broadcasting sounds or events occurring in any place where the individual or group involved has a reasonable expectation of being free from unwanted surveillance, eavesdropping, recording, or observation, unless the student has first obtained the consent of all persons involved.

No individual or organization shall disseminate, cause to be disseminated or allow to be disseminated photographs or recordings occurring from any place where the individual or group involved has a reasonable expectation of being free from unwanted surveillance, eavesdropping, recording, or observation, unless the student has first obtained the consent of all persons involved. For purposes of this rule, consenting to being photographed or recorded is not consenting to the dissemination of those photographs or recordings.

A committee or other recognized College organization may authorize the recording or photographing of its proceedings; and performances, classes, lectures, programs, workshops, or other similar events may be recorded or photographed only where the sponsoring organization, faculty member, speaker or other party in charge of the event specifically authorizes such recording."

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/right-privacy.html

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He violated the Sexual Harassment Policy:

"Sexual Harassment

It is Dartmouth’s policy that all decisions regarding educational and employment opportunities and performance are to be made on the basis of merit and without discrimination because of sex. Sexual harassment is deemed to be a form of sex discrimination; therefore, sexual harassment of Dartmouth employees or students will constitute a violation of Dartmouth’s equal opportunity policy and may be a violation of the student Code of Conduct. Sexual harassment is understood to mean unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature when:

submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual’s employment or status as a student,
submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment or academic decisions affecting him or her, or for the awarding or withholding of favorable employment or academic opportunities, evaluations, or assistance, or

such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual’s work or academic performance by creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working or educational environment.
Any student who believes they have been sexually harassed should contact one of the directors in the Office of Institutional Diversity & Equity."

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/sexharass.html

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He may also be in violation of copyright law since an argument could be made that the correspondence was intellectual property, as well as the Stalking and Student Organizations policies.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/copyright/

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/stalking.html

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deancoll/documents/handbook/rules-regs/stud-orgs.html

[dsc]

69. This was 20 plus years ago

so who knows what the policy was at the time. He also would have had big money (Buckley) behind him. At the very least they should have been sued over this. It was both immoral and just plain evil.

[Swamp Rat]

71. ok

He's an evil bastard who got away with a lot in college.

Maybe he plagiarised material for his new book, and others? :think:

[kwassa]

72. Dinesh declared racism over.

http://unauthorised.org/anthropology/anthro-l/october-1995/0266.html

DIVIDING LINE

THE BIGOT'S HANDBOOK

BY JACK E. WHITE, Time magazine

Back in the 1970s, Richard Pryor had a routine about a group of Asian
boat people being introduced to American life. Lesson No. 1: How to pronounce what
is now commonly known as the N word.

Last week a real-life version of Pryor's comedy sketch was played out among a rarefied band of right-wing intellectuals. At its center: Dinesh D'Souza, a 34-year-old Indian-born conservative wunderkind who has made a name for himself by bashing women, gays and minorities ever since he presided over the Dartmouth Review, a fecklessly racist student
publication, in the early '80s. Today he is a case study in assimilation through bigotry, an
ambitious immigrant who has achieved minor celebrity in his new homeland--and a sort of honorary status as a white man--by taking advantage of opportunities created by the civil rights movement, then turning his guns on it.

Nothing could be more American.

D'Souza's latest manifesto, The End of Racism, is one of the creepiest books to appear in recent years. Even more than D'Souza's previous book, Illiberal Education, which savaged the campus vogue of multiculturalism, it contains so much sophistry, half-baked erudition and small-minded zealotry that even right-wingers who share many of D'Souza's ideas are outraged by its, well, political incorrectness.

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. He is one more of the Thugs

that is exactly what they are