Hillary opposes Troop escalation, supports current levels. "eventually" to leave

[Tom Joad]

It should be said that Bush has stated repeatedly that US troops will eventually leave Iraq, though we can only wonder what he means by "eventually".

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/17/washington/17cnd-hillary.html?hp&ex=1169096400&en=915037d66a9da265&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Fresh from a weekend trip to Iraq, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton this morning intensified her opposition to President Bush’s new plan to send more than 20,000 additional troops to Baghdad, calling it “a losing strategy” and a “very bad mission” and proposing new limits and conditions on the overall war effort.

Her proposal:

did not call for a fixed deadline for withdrawing all American forces, saying only that the troops should leave Iraq “eventually.” Nor did she endorse blocking money for the new troop deployment. Those two positions are favored by many antiwar Democrats who are expected to be a force in the presidential primaries, and by at least one likely rival in 2008, former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

Instead, Mrs. Clinton called for capping the number of American forces in Iraq to the total number there on Jan. 1 — before Mr. Bush proposed adding forces. That total is roughly 140,000. She also proposed making a new threat to Iraqi government leaders to force their cooperation: the loss of American funds to train and equip Iraqi forces, rebuild the economy, and, to make the pressure more acute, to provide security for the leaders themselves.

Now that Bush has proposed a message of escalation, Hillary has proposed that the troop level remain the same, while making threats against the puppet US-installed government in Iraq (and seemingly blaming them for all the troubles, not the Bush regime in DC).

She opposes putting any pressure on the government the American people clearly rejected last November, namely the Bush regime.

[Lord Byron]

1. *yawn* she'll say anything

That's what happens you have no conviction. Rest assured her opinion has probably been subject to rigorous testing by focus groups and polls. Do not be fooled.

[Tom Joad]

11. Not sure she has "no convictions". Presuming she does, they are opposite mine

That's all i got to say.

[lovuian]

2. Eventually leave is what Nixon said about Vietnam

AMERICANS want out TROOPS OUT OF THERE

PRONTO

[Tom Joad]

She very clearly wants them to stay.

[lovuian]

3. Eventually leave is what Nixon said about Vietnam

AMERICANS want out TROOPS OUT OF THERE

PRONTO

[lovuian]

4. Eventually leave is what Nixon said about Vietnam

AMERICANS want out TROOPS OUT OF THERE

PRONTO

[BlueJac]

5. I am not a Hillary fan......

What about reducing the number of troops? She is so wishy washy and plays the winds to much for me. No to DLC in 08

[Lord Byron]

8. Amen. "No to DLC"

It should be the unofficial DU motto!

[Nite Owl]

6. Once again

perfect triangulation. The third way...it pleases no one because there is no conviction.

[nealmhughes]

9. Evidently Mrs.Clinton has mastered the art of mastering nothing.

To the observor she appears void of conviction, passion and even charisma, things needed badly in these times. Indeed, she seems to be a blonde creature of the press and an automaton of the centerist "be all to all while being nothing" creation of her handlers known as the DLC, in short, an exercise in banality.

[Nite Owl]

7. Dupe, sorry

got an error message, thought post didn't work.

[BuyingThyme]

10. I was looking for this straw.