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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:25 PM
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What is the 'Army of God'?
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 09:03 PM by ck4829
Is there a secretive Far Right Terrorist Organization inside the United States? Terrorism Experts don't seem to know very much about this Army, but what can be found out about them?

The Army of God is about more than just Anti-Abortion violence, they are connected to terrorist bombings, murders, bank robberies, anthrax hoaxes, and I say that they have been providing lodging for criminals. Eric Rudolph and Clayton Waagner, both connected to the AoG, were fugitives for quite some time. Maybe someone was helping them out, maybe it was the AoG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Waagner

Well, what do you think about the Army of God, are they real, and should the government be concerned?

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:28 PM
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1. The present WH crew will put them in charge of the
War on Terra.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:36 PM
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2. From Southern Poverty Law Center
One More Enemy
The Army of God web site, a long-time cheerleader for the murderers of abortion doctors, now is taking on blacks






The Rev. Donald Spitz has never been a pleasant man. Considered a wild-eyed extremist even among his colleagues on the radical anti-abortion scene, the head of Pro-Life Virginia and long-time principal of the Army of God Web site (www.armyofgod.com) applauds the murderers of physicians, clinic workers and secretaries.

He rails against "filthy faggots" and "lesbos." Islam is "Satanic," Arabs are "Rag-Heads," and Muslims "should not be allowed to live in the United States." New York City is a "sex perverted cesspool" that richly deserved Sept. 11.

But there is one type of vicious group hatred Don Spitz has always denied — the "false accusations of racism" against blacks "put out by desperate babykilling abortionists." If a black man accepts Christ, "then that man is my brother."

Well, maybe. And maybe not.

This summer, on the Web site long run by Spitz, a remarkable series of headlines began to appear under "Current News Stories for Christians." To almost anyone but Spitz, these racy one-liners reflect the crudest kind of racism.

"African-American on bike randomly shoots people," screams one link to a legitimate news story. "83 Year old White Woman beaten to death by three African-Americans," says another. "African-American Killed her," a third reads under photos of the principals, "because she was White and her parents 'didn't allow her to have sex with a black man.'" And the list goes on:

* "NAACP calls for the murder of Police Officers."
* "Black robbers mug chancellor's wife."
* "White woman carjacked, raped and executed by African-Americans."

And a longer headline accompanied by a photograph of an attractive white woman: "White Rebekah Hanson marries African-American Kashard Brown, then White Rebekah Hanson murdered by her African-American husband Kashard Brown."

A little further down the list, another headline is limited to a single quote: "Let's rape these White Girls, kill them and throw 'em off the bridge!"

These eye-catching headlines are published on the Army of God Web site that Spitz has run for years. The Army of God is a loosely connected collection of people who have carried out violent attacks on abortion clinics, doctors and other clinic workers.

Although there is no evidence to suggest a formally structured group, scores of violent criminals, saying they were called to their work directly by God, have described themselves as "members" of this self-appointed army.

Spitz, who does not have a record of criminal violence, claimed that he had not personally written the headlines — but he saw little problem with the person who supposedly did.

Those two guys in Texas," he told the Intelligence Report in a reference to the truck-dragging murder of James Byrd Jr., "no one had a problem making race the issue there. So I don't know why this would be considered a racial issue."

The news stories "have a racial component" and the headlines merely reflect that, he said. They are "not making a dialogue or a commentary," Spitz added.

Spitz, 56, said he had recently turned over day-to-day control of the site, temporarily, to a man he refused to name — a man who goes by the pseudonym of Ehud Gera. (Ehud, son of Gera, is a left-handed character in the Bible's Book of Judges who uses stealth and a dagger to murder Eglon, king of Moab, and then goes on to lead the Israelites to victory over the 10,000-man army of Moab.)

Spitz may not direct the site. But the Web site directs correspondents to write "Gera" at a Chesapeake, Va., postal box held for years by Spitz and his wife. Spitz, who has lived in Chesapeake for many years, described "Gera" only as an ally.

Spitz has courted controversy for years. He was kicked out of Operation Rescue after the first murder of an abortion doctor in 1993. A Pentecostal minister without a congregation, he has cheered such murders as "righteous," posted "war criminal" posters of doctors, and been arrested at clinics.

According to Wrath of Angels, a book on the abortion wars by James Risen and Judy Thomas, authorities found his name and unlisted phone number in the possession of John Salvi after Salvi murdered two clinic workers and wounded five others in 1994.

Salvi was caught after he carried out the murders in the Boston area and then traveled more than 500 miles to fire a barrage of shots at the Hillcrest Clinic in Norfolk, Va. — a clinic that was routinely picketed by Donald Spitz. Spitz later held a "prayer vigil" outside Salvi's jail cell, shouting, "We love you, John Salvi!"

Last year, Spitz was contacted by Clayton Waagner, who was then a fugitive who boasted of mailing some fake anthrax threats to abortion clinics. Many of Waagner's threats were signed "Army of God, Virginia Dare chapter." Dare was the first white child born in America, and is often romanticized by white supremacists.

For his part, Spitz insisted that he harbors no racial animosity — indeed, he said, "I know more black people than I know white people." The headlines on the Web site, the reverend explained, merely reflect "black-on-white racism."


Intelligence Report
Winter 2002
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 09:30 PM
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5. I made the mistake of clicking on the link to that website
These people are insane, and not too far removed from being terrorists. They are the same people who refer to dead Iraqi civilians as just collateral damage.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 09:00 PM
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3. The army of god are all angels ,the fallen one made 500% last year!
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 09:01 PM by orpupilofnature57
Shrub is the most sacriligous son of a barb in history
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 09:15 PM
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4. The Army of God is Dick Cheney's Waffen SS and youth movement
http://vereniging.leuven.be/ModelbouwVerenigingLeuven/Obersturmfuhrer%20Waffen%20SS%20(3).JPG






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The "Christian Fascist" Youth Movement is Here! (Leiter)
An alarming profile here; an excerpt:

If you’ve been waiting to get alarmed until the Christian fascist movement started filling stadiums with young people and hyping them up to do battle in “God’s army,” wait no longer.

In recent weeks, BattleCry, a Christian fundamentalist youth movement, has attracted more than 25,000 people to mega-rally rock concerts in San Francisco and Detroit, and this weekend it plans to fill Wachovia Stadium in Philadelphia.

The leaders of BattleCry claim that their religion and values are under attack, but amid spectacular light shows, Hummers, Navy SEALs and military imagery on stage, it is BattleCry that has declared war on everyone else. Its leader, Ron Luce, insists: “This is war. And Jesus invites us to get into the action, telling us that the violent—the ‘forceful’ ones—will lay hold of the kingdom.”

BattleCry is a part of the evangelical organization Teen Mania, and you can learn a lot about the kind of society that Teen Mania is fighting for by reading up on its Honor Academy, a non-accredited educational institution that offers directed internships to 700 undergraduate and graduate youth each year. Among the academy’s tenets: Homosexuality and masturbation are sins. Interns are forbidden to listen to secular music, watch R-rated movies or date; men can’t use the Internet unsupervised; the length of women’s skirts is regulated. The logic behind this—that men must be protected from the sin of sexual temptation—is what drives Islamic fundamentalists to shroud women in burkhas!

Teen Mania and BattleCry are multimillion-dollar operations that send more than 5,000 missionaries to more than 34 countries each year. Their supporters and members are some of the most powerful and extreme religious lunatics in the country. BattleCry’s “partners” include Pat Robertson (who got a call from Karl Rove to discuss Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito before the nomination was made public), Charles Colson (who as President Richard Nixon’s lawyer was knee-deep in the Watergate scandal and who went to jail for obstruction of justice in the Pentagon Papers case), and Jerry Falwell (who blamed Sept. 11 on homosexuals, feminists, pagans and abortionists). BattleCry’s events have been addressed by former First Lady Barbara Bush as well as former President Gerald Ford. This weekend’s event will include Franklin Graham, who has ministered to George W. Bush and publicly proclaimed that Islam is an “evil religion.”

What most of these figures have in common is their insistence that the Bible be read literally and obeyed as the inerrant word of God. And, because Ron Luce leads youth to say in prayer, “I will keep my eyes on the battle, submitting to Your code even when I don’t understand,” it would be foolish to expect that there is any part of the Bible’s literal horrors this movement would be unwilling to enforce....

It began with fireworks so loud and startling I screamed. Lights and smoke followed, and a few kids were pulled up on stage from the crowd. One was asked to read a letter.

This was the letter that opened the event. Its author was George W. Bush. Yes, the president of the United States sent a letter of support, greeting, prayer and encouragement to the BattleCry event held at Wachovia Spectrum Stadium in Philadelphia on May 12. Immediately afterward, a preacher took the microphone and led the crowd in prayer. Among other things, he asked the attendees to “Thank God for giving us George Bush.”

On his cue, about 17,000 youths from upward of 2,000 churches across America and Canada directed their thanks heavenward in unison.

Throughout the three and a half hours of BattleCry’s first session, I thought of only one analogy that fit the experience: This must have been what it felt like to watch the Hitler Youth, filled with self-righteous pride, proclaim the supremacy of their beliefs and their willingness to shed blood for them.

And lest you think this is idle paranoia, BattleCry founder Ron Luce told the crowds the next morning (May 13) that he plans to launch a “blitzkrieg” in the communities, schools, malls, etc. against those who don’t share his theocratic vision of society.

Blitzkrieg.

Nothing like a little Nazi imagery to whip up the masses....

The first rock band that performed, Delirious, got the crowd festive and up on their feet with lyrics that were projected on large screens so that everyone could join in: “We’re an army of God and we’re ready to die.... Let’s paint this big ol’ town red.... We see nothing but the blood of Jesus....”

Between musical acts, Luce, the BattleCry founder, hammered away at the dominant theme of the night: his contention that “pew-sitters ... passive Christians ... the Christians who just want love, joy, peace ... ” were the problem, and that the world needed more radical and extreme God-worshippers—those who would be obedient and fully submit to Christ....

Luce used this critique of pew-sitting Christians to assuage the doubts of the youths at the rally who may have been feeling uncertain about their commitment to the Church. “Don’t worry,” he was telling them, “you’ve been amongst pew-sitters--watered-down Christians. Welcome to the reign of total submission to the Lord.”

It was a mantra Luce repeated all through the night: the need to submit one’s self fully to Jesus, to belong completely to Him.

“He doesn’t just want to be in your heart, He wants to own your heart.... There’s only one good reason to come to Christ: because He’s the rightful owner of your life.... You don’t have to know much about Jesus, just enough to surrender your whole life.”

Throughout this section, a loud crowd from the back of the stadium would periodically erupt, “We are warriors!”

After tugging at countless emotional strings, Luce insisted—with the humility of Taliban members who submit to Allah’s command to stone adulterers—“You are the one talking to God, I am just going to help you with the words.”

There was a session when, after a great crescendo, the stadium was brought to silence. Luce instructed individuals to stand up when they felt the spirit and cry out, “I want the cross!” The voices of hundreds rose up over the course of 10 minutes. These young people, declaring death unto themselves and rebirth in Christ, were called down to the floor of the stadium and directed to get on their knees and put their heads down and pray some more.

Luce put great emphasis on following every word in the Bible, treating it as an “instruction book,” even when a person doesn’t understand or agree. This is, of course, the logic that leads to the stoning of gays, non-virgin brides, disobedient children and much more—because the Bible says so.

http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2006/05/the_christian_f_3.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:14 AM
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6. Add Michael Bray to that list of Army of God activists also...
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:40 AM
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7. Hey Whistle, Lucifer is one of the names of the anti-christ, Luce is
too funny. If these were truly RW Christians, they would get the Luce thing.

This is too bazaar for belief. I didn't click the links cause I have enable cookies on, when is the Wachovia thing, I maybe available to challenge these so called Christians, with the biblical truth.
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