SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE hearing now: Leahy opener a stunner

[The Witch]

"I have never seen a time when our civil liberties were more under attack by our own government."

Webcast URL is here: http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2473

Is it on C-SPAN?

[MiniMe]

1. I don't see it listed on the CSPAN schedule, thanks for the link!

[The Witch]

2. Leahy: "In a matter of hours, they EVISCERATED the Great Writ of habeas corpus."

EVISCERATED it!

:woohoo: go leahy

[Hepburn]

3. I want to see Alberto SQUIRM! n/t

[bemildred]

4. He is correct, these lawless swine need to be stopped. nt

[nebenaube]

5. damn...

what is it with linksys routers that always causes the router to hang on certain real audio files?

[The Witch]

6. Specter giving our Constitution a little lip service

playing moderate.

"It's a little hard to see why it took so long." <-- Oh, sure, THAT's the issue.. :eyes:

[deminks]

7. Specter should have his tap dancing shoes on today,

for what he did for the US Attorneys.

[dogday]

8. Dog and pony show

nothing to see here folks, move along... :sarcasm:

[Hepburn]

9. At least he is getting to the issue of Habeas Corpus....

...and right off the bat.

Man, he is dry as hell as a speaker, but at least going the right direction, IMO.

[formercia]

52. Specter is the one who wrote the 'crisis' provision

that allows Gonzales to replace US Atorneys without oversight from Congress.

[Sydnie]

10. Just tuned in

Are they going to ask questions or just lecture him? :shrug:

[Hepburn]

11. Leahy just put Gonazles under oath!

Good for Leahy!

[Lusted4]

113. I think they should be wired to a polygraph-electro-zapper so they light-up when they lie.

Buzz zzz, wooo hooo yoowwweeee.

[Greeby]

12. Ok, first lie of the day "I do" (being sworn in)

:eyes:

[MiniMe]

13. They are swearing him in!! Under oath at last.

Its about time

[Sydnie]

14. Swore him in!!! WOOT!

Thank you Senator Leahy! Under oath! FINALLY!

[pdxmom]

15. Yeah!!!! Gonzales is under oath! Finally! n/t

[dogday]

16. Gonzales sworn in just now

like that will matter....

[Tatiana]

17. Please let this cube rat know when Gonzo shows up. n/t

[The Witch]

18. He's been sworn in; now he shall be sworn at :-)

Leahy now asking audience not to demonstrate; notes that you can be blocking others who want to hear. Very smart of him.

[watrwefitinfor]

19. Gonzales was just sworn in by Leahy.

Giving his statement now.

[The Witch]

20. Gonzo's opening: "At the DOJ every day is September 12."

:eyes: :puke:

[Hepburn]

21. What a freaking little weasel....

...I just want to reach out at the real player screen and pop his head off like the head of a pimple.

:puke:

[Tatiana]

23. OMG give me a break! I hope they catch him in a lie.

So his license to practice law can be yanked.

[John Q. Citizen]

76. Kind of like the movie "Groundhog Day." n/t

[glitch]

117. Only these guys aren't learning a damn thing.

So it's likely to remain September 12th for them forever.

[cool user name]

22. Give 'em hell, Patrick!

[madokie]

24. Torture boy is not going to have a very good day

in fact I suspect he will feel violated at the end of the day just as sure as we do now.
torture boy is already trying to change the focus

[dogday]

30. I have a feeling this committee already has

their questions ready, and they are not going to be about online prescriptions, or immigration reform...

[Sydnie]

25. What the hell is he babbling about the internet for?

I just don't get it. If he is so concerned about online preditors, why hasn't he brought charges against Foley yet? THAT would send a message Alberto. Otherwise, STFU!

[The Witch]

29. He just found out that the Internet is for porn

The Internet is for porn
All these guys unzip their flies
For porn, porn, porn.

:singing:

:evilgrin:

[gratuitous]

111. There's porn on the internets?

Why was I not informed?!

[The Witch]

26. Gonzo talking about online predators.

Somewhere Mark Foley is laughing his ass off. :eyes:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

80. Did he mention Foley?

[pdxmom]

27. He wants to talk about pedophiles and online pornographers. I

wonder if that includes Repuke congressmen and those that protect them.

[Hepburn]

28. WTF???

He is asking the committee to help him protect children against online abuse from sexual predators?

Like ~~ HELLO, ALBERTO???? Do you realize WHY you are sitting in the hot seat?

[The Witch]

31. Gonzo wants more judicial nominees to be brought thru committee.

Yesterday he said he would only look for nominees who would defer to executive. What a sicko.

[dogday]

32. Signing Statements

go for the throat....

[Sydnie]

33. Leahy bringing up signing statements right out of the box

All that internet babble did you no good Alberto! :rofl:

[Hepburn]

34. OK....

...Leahy has it back on track...the signing statements.

[dogday]

35. You went to great lengths not to answer my question

Answer it now Alberto.....

[The Witch]

36. Leahy: "You went to great lengths to avoid answering my questions."

re: opening mail signing statement.

[Justpat]

37. Leahy is really pissed.

You can hear it in his voice.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

45. I can't get the OP's link to work. Is there anywhere else I can find

this hearing? Can't believe that C-Span is bailing on some of the most important hearings of our times.

[The Witch]

47. Try going thru judiciary.senate.gov??

Just a thought. try to find link from main page.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

54. Keep getting an error message. I'm thinking the Senate site is

crashing from all the people who want to hear this. Just a guess.

[The Witch]

61. Bastard. I'm gonna e-mail C-SPAN and say you have GOT to run this live.

anyone with me?

[Justpat]

50. It took a long time to load and I have cable.

Myabe try again.

[annabanana]

57. severe overload.. I can't get in either. . . n/t

[Morgana LaFey]

115. me either. DAMN. nt

[The Witch]

38. Gonzo: "No physical searches of mail except as otherwise authorized by statute."

But we scan it thru an x-ray machine, I'm SURE.

[underpants]

39. NO C-SPAN! Why??? Nope it is not on C-Span

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2473

[Hepburn]

40. First instance of perjury...

...the mail is not being opened.

But listen carefully: NO ONGOING conduct. Ummmm...and not that he is aware of .... looking for deniability and someway to insulate himself.

[Tatiana]

41. I think after this hearing, Gonzo is going to want to go "F" himself. n/t

[dogday]

42. There is not going to be much of Gonzales

left after this hearing....

[Hepburn]

43. Yep....I think he is gonna be slithering..

..out the bottom of the door when he leaves.

Thank gawd.

[Norquist Nemesis]

44. Little weasel's squirming and getting defiant

while lying through his teeth. :grr:

[Hepburn]

48. LMBO...Leahy has Torture Boy stuttering! n/t

[underpants]

59. "I don't know. I haven't looked into it"

LEahy rightly cut him off several times asking "Shouldn't you know this?""Shouldn't you HAVE looked into this?""Isn't this within your normal job duties?"

Gonzo is as relevant as Condi

[kentuck]

46. hang him...

with the big drop....Let his head roll across the floor. Surely he is deserving?

[The Witch]

49. Leahy & Specter are getting a copy of the decision of FISC judge.

Gonzo says he wants to take that back to his "principal." What.Ever.

[Fovea]

92. See, even Satan can't be at two places at once.

Maybe Fitz will give Cheney an absence permit to attend the Gonzales show.

[Sydnie]

51. "to push the envelope"

Yep, that about sums it up!

[The Witch]

53. CLEAR PERJURY: "BECAUSE of the concerns that had been raised, we went to..."

FISA court to get authorization. When the letter clearly said they went to court BEFORE the first press accounts.

[dogday]

55. Are we in Alice In Wonderland Here?

They deserve to get that order from the court... Go Leahy....

[Hepburn]

56. Holy Shit!

That statement from Gonzales about the court opinion???

Man, did Leahy catch him! Woooohoooooooo!!!!

[The Witch]

58. THIS is the kinda hearing I was hoping for... and VOTING for!!!

:cheer:

[herbbrown]

60. It's also on Pacifica Radio

http://kpfa.org/

[Morgana LaFey]

116. Oh, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!

You are an angel

[Norquist Nemesis]

62. LOL! Specter: (interupting) Answer my question

:rofl:

[MiniMe]

63. Gonzo is starting to stutter now, and they are only on Specter

[Hepburn]

66. Wow...

...the 100+ page letter dropped off on them on the morning of the hearing...Gonzo just ADMITTED there was NO excuse for doing that!

[Hepburn]

64. Specter up now...

...and he is NOT a friend of Gonzales. On the DOD doing stuff exclusively under the jurisdiction of the FBI.

[Norquist Nemesis]

67. Specter: Can you come back tomorrow?

G: As soon as I can
S: How 'bout tomorrow?
G: As soon as I can
S: How 'bout tomorrow?
G: (snickers) As soon as I can

[Hepburn]

65. Geeeeeez, Specter...

...just cut him off and basically told him to cut the BS! :wow:

[Norquist Nemesis]

70. Calling him out on the continued games

Specter's not happy that they dropped 187pg memo on them just before the hearing.

[dogday]

68. Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales?

I will come back soon Senator.... Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales? I will come back soon Senator.... Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales? I will come back soon Senator....

[Supersedeas]

78. Al Gonzo hopes to crawl into a hole and hope that everyone forgets

[The Witch]

69. What did they "drop on us at the last minute"? I was on phone w/c-span

and missed it...

I told C-span the hearing site was crowded w/users and a lot of people are upset - and that it's a truly explosive hearing to boot - and they should cover it live.

[Hepburn]

75. 100+ page letter

edit for typo

[The Witch]

83. about what?

[The Witch]

71. OMG Specter bringing up anthrax investigation.

I think i'm gonna have a politicsgasm.

[Greeby]

72. Oh boy, Specter asking about the anthrax attack

:wow:

[dogday]

73. Now he did it, Specter brought up Anthrax... nt

[Bill219]

74. Alberto is such a slime ball

[symbolman]

77. Why in the HELL Isn't THIS ON C-Span?

This is plainly lowballing the american people, and cheating them out of JUSTICE.

I want to see this man SQUASHED SO FLAT, that they can stick him in an envelope and mail him back to him mom in Mexico.

FLAT enough to be a Beer Label on one of Bush's Bottles.

Flatter than WILEY COYOTE.

We deserve to SEE THIS PUBLICLY. What is up with C-Span?

Are they Covering for BUSH now?

I remember I had to fly from Hawaii to Washington to film the Downing Street Minutes since C-SPAN was refusing to cover it, as were other media outlets, and then once I got there I had to FIGHT my way IN to film it. Am I going to have to get the Camera OUT again and fly to DC to make sure people are getting the REAL STORY? :)

Don't make me come there you fuckers. :)

[The Witch]

79. CALL THEM

202-737-3220

One wonders if they are going to excise any potential perjury from their transcripts & video later due to governmental pressure.

[symbolman]

93. Thanks

I will call, but later, I'm in Hawaii and have been up all night - I get to sleep while all the FUN is going on :)

Appreciate the Number.. I think I'll post it on our site TAKEBACKTHEMEDIA.COM and see if I can get some FLOW going in that direction.

This is CENSORSHIP. Pure and SImple.

While Gonzo is Under Oath :) LOL! Good one..

[Supersedeas]

85. when Al Gonzo is under oath--it can not be televised.

[The Witch]

86. The revolution will not be televised

and we are seeing the opening shots.

[MiniMe]

106. Why not?

Leahy made a big deal in his opening saying that this was a public hearing. I think he mentioned it being televised, and it is at least available on the internet.

[underpants]

108. C-Span covers the Senate and House floor when in session

I just found this out from Tahitinut on another thread. Why it isn't on C-Span 3 I have no idea

[fooj]

120. What you said.

:applause:

[fooj]

121. So articulate! Well said.

You're da man, symbolman!
:applause:

[dogday]

81. Kennedy is up .........................nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

82. Kennedy up now

:popcorn:

[Hepburn]

84. Wow....

...this is beginning to look like a blood letting ... and NOW Kennedy is up! And...into the Iraqi war.

Oh, boy, need more coffee and popcorn!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

88. Did he mention Abu Graib or Valerie Plame?

might aswell throw those in why we are at it?

[dogday]

87. It's a damn shame Kennedy has to read this to

Gonzales.. Gonzales has wiped his ass with our Constitution....

[dogday]

89. Gonzales won't admit that Congress has the authority

when it comes to escalation of war...

[Hepburn]

94. Stutter, stutter, stutter...

...and Kennedy cut him off! LOVE IT!!!

And then Gonzo tried to deflect the question on Iran...and Ted brought him back to it.

BS from Gonzo.....and Kennedy brought him back to the issue AGAIN.

Go, Ted, go!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

97. What sort of Attorney General would say that?

certainly not one that belongs in this government. I guess Gonzales is so used to having a GOP congress yes men around. Can Congress fire him or is that up to POTUS?

[Justpat]

90. Gonzales getting the Constitition read to him

sounds like Kennedy.

talking about war powers.

Congress can limit scope of president's war power.

Gonzales not prepared to answer the speaker's question.
Ha Ha. things get kind of murky according to gonzales
concerning bush's ability to be an unlimited dictator.

[Supersedeas]

96. this is supposed to be the People's Attorney, not WH counsel

[The Witch]

91. Gonzo says line between congressional and presidential authority is "murky"

He should know from murk, the swamp-dwelling troglodyte. :channelling malloy:

[Justpat]

95. Geez, Gonzales says he needs to check this all out.

Gonzales says if Iran attacks us, then bush has right to declare war.
Hence, the need to goad Iran into doing something stupid.

[annabanana]

98. CSpan just told me they're going to air this on #3..later today

(Like around 4pm)

[The Witch]

99. Grilling him re: Iran. too much to transcribe.

Alvie seems to be setting up the idea of a hypothetical attack by Iran. Ted isn't falling for it. He wants to know if Alvie thinks Prez has authorization.

[kentuck]

100. "I'm not aware of any plans to invade Iran..."

:popcorn:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

103. yeah, right!

[dogday]

101. Gonzales: We don't need no stinkin Congress

In a time of war, don't you know the President becomes the dictator....:sarcasm:

[Norquist Nemesis]

102. UGH (Hatch will be up next)

Might be time to make another pot of coffee

[The Witch]

104. THREAD #2 UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3146404

Mods, please lock this thread, thanks

[Hepburn]

105. Kennedy ~~ the issue of TORTURE...

...well, it is about time Gonzo got this shoved in his face.

And Gonzo says....stutter, stutter...

...and then makes NO sense, but saying this is being done to "protect the country."

:puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

107. ...to protect this country...in a time of war...protect this country...

The only thing missing is "after 9/11"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

110. war, what war?

mission accomplished?

[annabanana]

109. Thread #2 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3146404

[catmandu57]

112. Fuck you Hatch

Softball pitching motherfucker.

[ArmchairMeme]

114. Thanks for the webcast link

Too bad this is not viewable by the general public. This means that only people with a PC and knowledge of the link will have access to this information. The people who watch tv will be blissfully innocent of the questions and answers. I don't like it.

[WinkyDink]

118. I don't see it.

[puebloknot]

119. Webcast? Can't find a video. Is there one?