SENATE JUDICIARY Gonzo Grilling Thread #2

[The Witch]

Thread #1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3145945&mesg_id=3145945

Webcast URL is here: http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2473

Call C-SPAN 202-737-3220
Ask why they are not showing it live
and if they plan to excise any footage before they show it later; tell them the Webcast is full to bursting and this is some quality, explosive TV!

[annabanana]

1. They told me CSpan 3 later today (like 4pm)

really should be live

[dogday]

3. I wondered if they would show this later

Sometimes they do that... Great to hear that :hi:

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. I remember the good old days when stuff like this did get aired

The Clarence Thomas hearings come to mind

[Matariki]

117. well that one involved pubic hair

TV loves pubic hair.

[Supersedeas]

17. CSPAN 3....WTF - i have to pay my cable provider for this public service

thanks for keeping the public informed CSPAN.

[Greeby]

2. Hatch the Hatchet Man is up

I'll be back in 7 minutes

[madokie]

7. no shit, time to go get the coffee pot and take a piss

hes almost as bad as my senators

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. LOL!

Ooops! Coffee pot's empty. Back in five.

[Hepburn]

10. Ditto....n/t

[annabanana]

4. Hatch sounds like a chicken and a liar... a liar chicken...n/t

[Hepburn]

8. Yeah, and that is the NICEST thing that can be said. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

13. Hatch! LOL!

The Hatch of the Savings and loan scandal?

[Hepburn]

5. K & R this to greatest page please. TY

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. What an enabler Hatch is. He should be ashamed. n/t

[kentuck]

16. Hatch has no shame...

I learned a long time ago that he is willing to defend criminals.

[The Witch]

12. HATCH up and talking about online predator issues.

This is the Repubs steering clear of any of the nat'l security issues. They are gonna say they were doing REAL work while Dems were Bush-bashing. Hope Dems pick up on this strategy.

[Supersedeas]

20. laughable....anything--just anything but the national security issues of the day

[MiniMe]

14. Hatch is Scum

giving him softball leading questions.

[MiniMe]

18. Feinstein up now

[Hepburn]

15. Oh, brother....

...the softballs about the signing statements. :puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

19. Feinstein up

...we'll see. She's also on the Intelligence Committee.

[Hepburn]

24. She;s on the US Atty issue. n/t

[Hepburn]

21. Diane Feinstein up...out of order. n/t

[underpants]

22. "we continue to look into the past... the Presidents actions were of course lawful"

Wow I think I could be a better AG than this guy

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. "of course!" Because if the President does it, it's lawful

:eyes:

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Bringing up the question about appointing attorneys

F: How many US attys have been asked to resign in the past year
G: duhh....I don't know

[Hepburn]

32. Oh, boy...

Do you DENY you have asked them to resign...Feinstein.

And then Gonzo goes on about "good management." And THEN the azzhat says that some just leave on their own.

What a freaking LIAR!

[Hepburn]

26. Wow...Diane is NAILING him on the issue...

...of how many US Attys have been asked to resign. Noted about their discussion on Tues that he said he would get the info to her...and he does NOT have the info for her today.

This is good.

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. "We did not amend the Patriot Act to circumvent the process"

"Do you deny that your office has asked US attys to resign in the past year?"

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. She's MAD. The smarmy ass is deliberately avoiding the answer.

I hope he ends up at The Hague! He just doesn't want to provide ANY answer about how many US attorneys have been asked to resign. WHAT A JERK!

[quiet.american]

27. Geez, I cannot stand Gonzales' eternal smarminess and arrogant smirk. nt/

[bdamomma]

29. thanks for the updates, boy, sounds like things are getting hot

gonzo I would love to slap that smirk off his face, what is it with that smirk?? They should dissolve his AG title.

[MiniMe]

30. DiFi has him so turned around that he doesn't know what he is saying

[dogday]

31. Gonzales is getting louder, he is getting hot...

bbq his ass.....

[Norquist Nemesis]

35. yep! Pointing his finger

So...who's Bud Cummings?

[Hepburn]

37. US Atty in AK who was asked to resign...or so it seems. n/t

[Oilwellian]

44. I think I read...

he's a good friend of Rove's. Cronyism is this administration's middle name.

[bdamomma]

33. I wish these Dems on these committees would just grill the shit

out of Condi and Gonzo, they are such liars.

[Hepburn]

34. Man, did she NAIL him!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Justpat]

36. He claims they asked some federal judges to resign

because it was "good management".

So according to Bush, anyone who doesn't cater to his view
of imperial presidency has got to go.

[Hepburn]

38. Now Diane is into gun show sales....

...and she is kicking his butt!

[dogday]

39. Stuttering Stanley is what Gonzales is doing now nt

[Hepburn]

43. OMG...that high pitched stutter was just soooooo...

...wonderful to watch.

Now he is getting some softballs on internet gambling. Who is the Sen asking him about this? Not familiar with this guy...but he seems to be selling the Repuke BS right down the line...complimenting Gonzo, etc.

:puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

49. Jon Kyl. Loyal Soldier all the way

Heard yesterday that Bennett started a "Draft Kyl for President" movement on his radio show. :puke:

[Supersedeas]

58. anything....anything but national security issues...that Repig oversight--compliments

[Norquist Nemesis]

41. "I don't want to have a public discussion about personnel matters"

Hunh! He doesn't want to tout his 'good management' for everyone to see? :shrug:

[kentuck]

42. He wants to "get back later" a lot ...

:)

[underpants]

47. Specter actually asked for an answer IN WRITING earlier

so that he can see what they are actually claiming.

Apparently DoJ dropped some huge document on this committee this morning. Specter wanted to know if Gonzo would come back tomorrow after he had a chance to read it, Gonzo said he would come back "when I can" and that was it.

[Sydnie]

48. Yeah, like the 187 days it took to "get back to them later" after the

last time he was there? Specter already spanked him for that.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

60. It is evident that the repugs are tap dancing as fast as their smarmy little

legs will carry them. Every chance they get to question Gonzales they dive back under the 9/11 safety umbrella and internet gambling and safety BS. Do they honestly think this is going to work?

Dumb question. Of course they think it will work. But the grilling Gonzo is getting from the Dems is a piece of work. They are reaming Gonzo a new asshole. Hope they don't give up, don't allow his to play stupid and "will get back with you" over and over. Loved they asked him to provide the number of attorneys who have been asked to resign after the lunch break. Gonzo said he couldn't discuss "personnel matters" but they came right back at him and said they didn't want names - they want numbers.

Gonzo is going the way of Kindasleezy, Rummy, et al. When they don't want to answer anything they to go for the stupid card. "I don't know and can't answer." So in addition to being corrupt he is admitting under oath he doesn't know his job. SOP for the Chucklenuts Cabal.

[bdamomma]

70. gonzo lies so much, they should throw him in jail. slime ball he is.

throw in him jail for stonewalling under oath.

[Norquist Nemesis]

45. Kyl: "Hey everyone watching...BOO!!!"

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Justpat]

46. Who is this asshole speaking now?

telling gonzo what a great job he is doing againt the deadly
terrorist.

[Hepburn]

50. Some Repuke...but not sure who...

...figured it has to be a Repuke ~~ thanked Gonzo and brought up the buzz word of TERRORISTS.

:puke:

[Justpat]

57. This one is a beaut.

now asking gonzo to make sure that detainees can't
contest the manner of incarceration (meaning and/or torture)
yes, we can't allow that.

this all makes me ashamed of my country that we allow
a fascist, dumb piece of shit like this to hold the
highest legal office in the land.

I think I'm too upset to listen anymore

[Norquist Nemesis]

52. Jon Kyl

He tries to outdo Hatch at every opportunity.

[in_cog_ni_to]

54. repuke, Jon Kyl...psycho lover/enabler. n/t

[catmandu57]

51. These damn reptiles came together on talking points

Fucking kyle, hatch, softball throwing asswipes, they want to talk up internet porn.

[dogday]

55. Give us your Liberty and we will give you Security...

That is there motto and it sucks... Stop comparing WWII to Iraq... They are not the same at all...

[Supersedeas]

concerted effort to pamper and coddle poor incompetent Al Gonzo

[The Witch]

53. Kyl is all offended that we might give Habeas rights to terrrrrrrists.

turning the matter upside down. I think he should get arrested in Saudi Arabia.

Fuck him.

[Hepburn]

56. Oh, sheeeeeesh....Kyl....

...no wonder there is azz kissing going on. Recognize the name...but not that azzhat's face. Thanks for letting us know who this is.

[underpants]

59. ~"Americans should be proud" of how we treat enemy combatants

[Norquist Nemesis]

66. That was the most twisted logic I've heard since Condi!

We treated the "lawful combatants", the "ones who followed the rules" well so how "can anyone question how we treated the unlawful combatants!" omg! :wtf:

[Hepburn]

61. Who is up now? n/t

[mikelgb]

62. Kohl D WI

[Hepburn]

64. TY....talking about Milwaukee should have been a clue for me! n/t

[The Witch]

63. Kohl discussing violent crime in the US

keepin it domestic. He usually stays domestic with his concerns. Lets the other sens do the natl work.

[Justpat]

65. "disturbing trends" in some kinds of crime

happening right now in our american cities.
He's going to come up with some good ideas on
how to fight it.

Well, I feel so much better now.
Excuse me while I go weep for our country.


:banghead:

[Hepburn]

67. Back to the US Atty issue....

....and Gonzo is talking about background checks? WTF??? Like the ones being asked to resign the DOJ NOW figures there is something wrong with their background checks done way back?

Edit to clarify.

[The Witch]

69. Can this be Kohl? I think not.

He's sucking up. Must be like Grassley or something. No, it's Cornyn. THE GREAT CORNHOLIO!

[Norquist Nemesis]

68. Oh Goody. Cornyn now

:grr: :argh: :nuke:

[The Witch]

71. Say what you will about the Rs, I love how easily their names are nicknamed.

Down the Hatch/Hatchet Man; the Great Cornholio; Assley; Jeff "Torture" Sessions; Graham Crackers, Brownback Mountain, etc.

[Hepburn]

73. This is TOTAL bullshit...

..it has NOTHING to do with asking US Attys in PLACE to resign ~~ and that is because, IMO, they are going after Repukes like Cunningham.

This is total bullshit.

[Justpat]

72. Hmm. what is a word that describes an obsequious, groveling

position like that of the current repuke speaking. Oh, yes,
it would be an ass kisser of the highest order.

[Hepburn]

74. Geeeeeez,

this one's nose must have been surgically attached to the ass of the Bush Admin.

[Hepburn]

77. Russ if up! Yooooohooooo!!! n/t

[Supersedeas]

81. another version of Repig oversight

[tbyg52]

119. If you're talking about Cornyn, yes. nt

[TahitiNut]

83. "Orrination" - shameless sycophancy

Unctious Orrin Hatch ... the Uriah Heep of the Senate. He never saw a reich-winger he wouldn't fellate.

[bdamomma]

93. those repigs are enabling a liar, boy, they will follow bush over the

cliff huh?

[The Witch]

75. RUSS IS UP!!!

He will be chairing the Constitution Subcommittee!

[Norquist Nemesis]

82. ohhh!!! Hope he spends 1 minute on his statement

and six on hard hitting Q&A! Go Russ!!!

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

So refreshing after Kyl, Cornyn, etc.

[The Witch]

89. He didn't MAKE a statement :D

That's how much we love the Russ.

[The Witch]

94. He didn't MAKE a statement :D

That's how much we love the Russ.

[Bill219]

76. Gonzo has one hell of a lisp.

[dogday]

78. My Man Russ is up, hold on to your seats folks,

it is going to be a bumpy ride.....

[Sydnie]

79. Damn, have to leave for work now

Hey The Witch, thanks for the threads. Can't wait to read the rest when I get back! :hug:

[Justpat]

80. Lets summarize that last exchange.

Repuke: why, gonzo, you are doing a fantastic job as our legal head honcho.

Gonzo: why, thank you senator, I think Im doing a fabulous
job also.


The End

[Norquist Nemesis]

86. Don't forget the kissing

They should have just gotten a room!

[bdamomma]

I am not listening but did Gonzo really say he is doing a

fabulous job?

[bdamomma]

I am not listening but did Gonzo really say he is doing a

fabulous job?

[Hepburn]

84. Oh, this is gooooooooooood!!!!!!!

Hit him on the inflamatory rhetoric about those who do not agree with him and the Admin.

[Laurab]

87. Go Russ!!!! n/t

[The Witch]

85. SKEWERED on question #1

"DO YOU KNOW ANYONE who doesn't want the US to wiretap terrorists!"
"Yes."

[Hepburn]

88. Russ just NAILED him...

...read quotes and told him falsely accusing members of that committee is NOT helpful.

Gonzo....back peddling like crazy. Wow!

[Hepburn]

91. MORE back peddling from Gonzo.. n/t

[dogday]

90. He has developed a bad case of Stuttering Stanley

big time!!!

[Justpat]

92. OK, I'm loving this exchange with Russ.

notice he can barely speak in response to the Dems and
with the republicans he is his usual smooth, smarmy self.

[Norquist Nemesis]

95. The Cons a like soft pillows for him

It's sickening.

[Hepburn]

98. The FISA quetions are WONDERFUL....

...asking WHY they did not seek authorization in the FIRST place and waited until they were outed.

Stutter...stutter...stutter....and voice getting high pitched.

[Hepburn]

100. Delete ~~ error and double posted.

[helderheid]

96. thanks so much for this thread!

[seemunkee]

97. "Let me be careful how I saw this because I am under oath."

Is is that fucking hard to tell the truth?

[dogday]

101. Apparently so for him nt

[Supersedeas]

104. is there some disconnect between what he saw and the truth??

[Justpat]

99. It's hard work being AG.

he must be sweating bullets already.

[Hepburn]

106. I would say that he is sweating blood...

...and anything else that is wet has to be the seat of the liar's pants.

[bdamomma]

he is under oath and lying could they hold him for perjury.

[jsamuel]

102. Russ just got Gonzo to explain that we never needed the program in the first place.

cool

[Norquist Nemesis]

103. 5 mins, then Grassley up

[dogday]

105. Five Minute Break----- Smoke em if you got them or not nt

[helderheid]

107. This would be a good time for a new thread :) Shall I start one or ...?

[Wheezy]

108. go for it!

Grassley has to go potty.

[Hepburn]

109. Good idea, IMO...

...can be in place and kicked to the greatest page for when the blood letting ...er...hearing starts back up.

Thanks!

[Hepburn]

110. Delete....again posted same message twice.

[helderheid]

111. NEW THREAD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3146872

[RufusTFirefly]

112. KPFA (Pacifica) is providing gavel-to-gavel coverage

You can listen live at KPFA.org

No images, of course, which is kind of a mixed blessing.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

114. thanks for the link

and welcome to DU!!!!!:hi:

[herbbrown]

115. Good Comentary too

No sparmy washington jounal right wing flunkies. In other words honest commentary.

[RufusTFirefly]

113. Go Grassley Go

It's a rare hearing when I cheer on Grassley, but in certain cases (e.g. Sibel Edmonds), he seems to be on the correct side.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

116. K&R

[midnight]

118. Thank you to everyone here who has posted info. on this hearing.

It is very much appriciated by me. I will have to break down and get cable.