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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:09 PM
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SENATE JUDICIARY Gonzo Grilling Thread #4
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:11 PM
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1. unbelievable! Cardin is talking about stuff that has not been talked about
not by the powers that be, at least. Go Cardin!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:12 PM
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5. OMG...this is soooooooo good....
...and Cardin is speaking with REAL passion. This is great!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:19 PM
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19. Disenfanchisement as a "campaign strategy"
SLAM!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:11 PM
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2. K&R...and Cardin is freaking nailing Gonzo on...
...the voter issues. The false literature...and asking Gonzo what he has done.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:12 PM
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3. Go Ben, Go! Asking why these voting problems haven't been looked into
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:12 PM
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4. Thanks for the links
Back to review when I have the time this deserves.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:13 PM
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6. I need to take off pretty soon y'all
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:13 PM
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7. Oh, pleaaaaaaaaase, Gonzo!
He is trying to off-load blame on the states/local govts...and Cardin reminded him his questions was about the FEDERAL voting rights law.

Go, Cardin, go!!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:14 PM
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8. Gonzo tried to say its a State issue, Cardin nailed him on its a FEDERAL law
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:28 PM
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146. more imcompetence from Al Gonzo
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:14 PM
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9. I knew it! "It's not my job."
Voting is "precious", but it's a state & local issue.

Forget about federal level?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:15 PM
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11. What a total weasel response from Gonzo. n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:14 PM
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10. pssst... we need more recs
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:15 PM
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12. done
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:15 PM
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14. 5th one just got up there! n/t
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:18 PM
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18. done
Sorry, just lazy today.:)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:15 PM
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13. Cardin is kicking his ASS! Listen to the jerk spin this.
Now he admits he has a responsibility to ensure people are not discriminated against when it comes to voting.

Really? Then why haven't you done jack shit about it?!!@#$%^
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:15 PM
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15. Loth of sthputtering lithping going on right now.
:evilgrin:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:17 PM
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16. Recessing until 1:45 PM EST ~~ First:
Specter now making a statement re crime in his state.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:18 PM
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17. I have to run - good timing
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:20 PM
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20. Specter sounds bad ~~ physically. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:21 PM by Hepburn
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:20 PM
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21. Please, I want to hear Gonzo take the 5th
Trap him in his web of lies!!! Shummer almost had him...
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:22 PM
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23. Why do they always stop right before the guy snaps?
I wish Shummer went just "that" much further. Although, I am thoroughly appreciative of the exchange as it was.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:22 PM
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22. Damn lost my stream. Wanted to hear what my new senator had to say
Sounds like Cardin did a good job.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:22 PM
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24. mine too... it's about signing statements
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:23 PM
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25. He was great, nailed Gonzo several times
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:25 PM
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A good tip for future hearings: go to this link on the c-span site...
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2473

Apparently, there are going to be so many hearings that, to me, this is the only way C-Span could offer them all to the public in a simultaneous fashion. Great to know this is available.

Btw, Cardin did an exceptional job for a freshman senator.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:33 PM
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46. We obviously need CSPAN 4 big time
CSPAN 3 seems to broadcast junk most of the time.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:51 PM
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118. We could use about 4 or five more C-Span channels!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:26 PM
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148. there would alot more educated Americans that is for sure
excluding present company here at DU
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:23 PM
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26. Signing Statements? Are they Constitutional
Why not veto asked Specter.... He can't get the power unless Congress gives it to him...
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:24 PM
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27. now habeus corpus
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:26 PM
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31. Constitutional right guaranteed for Habeas Corpus...
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:30 PM by dogday
Read it Gonzales....
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:25 PM
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29. Specter is slow....like physically not up to it...
...but IMO making his points about signing statements viz habeas corpus.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:25 PM
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28. Oh. My. God. Specter is kicking his ass.
I wish I did not mistrust Specter so much so I could enjoy this more.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:27 PM
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32. OMG............that last remark from Specter!!!!!
Violating common sense!?!?! Wow, I cannot believe that Specter came out and spanked Gonzo like that! I LOVE IT!!!!!!

:applause:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:27 PM
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34. just wow
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:25 PM
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30. Oh. My. God. Specter is kicking his ass.
I wish I did not mistrust Specter so much so I could enjoy this more.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:27 PM
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33. My jaw is on the floor
I had to check 2 times to make sure it was still him,
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:28 PM
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Now.....Leahy has picked it up and he is going in for what...
...looks like the kill on this.

I am loving this.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:28 PM
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35. Holy Habeas Corpus
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:30 PM by dogday
Specter is kicking his ass....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:32 PM
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Just joining
Hi fellow DUers :D
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:34 PM
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50. Hi malaise, welcome to the thread
it has been a wild ride this morning... Great statements being made....:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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72. Yo knew damn well that he would be
tortured. You knew he would not be tortured in Canada...this is great
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:28 PM
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36. violating common sense
Good one Spectre
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:28 PM
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37. Leahy is my hero....
Just tossing that out there.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:30 PM
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38. Then you should be loving this...
...like I am. IMO, Leahy all but said the word "treason" about the way Bush has been conducting himself viz "upholding the law."

Wow! :wow:
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:22 PM
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161. Hey friend in NC-He's mine too!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:30 PM
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39. Woo hoo! Cardin is my senator!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:30 PM
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40. Leahy read into the record the number of signing statements by the boy king.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:31 PM
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41. IMO, maybe this is where Gonzo....
...might want to start thinking about the 5th Amend!

Unbelievable!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:55 PM
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123. How'd you like how Gonzo first attempted to deny that Bush had more signing statements
than any other administration, then he quickly amended it to...

"Certainly, there are more, but...but...but..." before properly being cut off by Leahy.

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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:31 PM
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42. How long before Gonzalez (or his apologists) complain he's being
"mistreated", "abused", even "tortured"?:evilgrin:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:34 PM
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53. You must have missed Kyl, Cornyn, Sessions, etc.
They got together with Gonzo beforehand to check his sleepnumber preferences. :)
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:54 PM
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121. And they fluffed his pillow, put some chocolates on it, turned the
music down to some lullabyes. What wimpy crappy representatives. The country is going down the tubes and they all come on and praise all the things THEY think are going right. Absolutely feigning bowing cowering submissive adoring CRAP. Those Republicans shouls be ashamed. This country is going down and they are humming sweet lullabyes to a dirty rotten lying Attorney General.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:25 PM
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159. colorful and vivid language award goes to higher class
:toast:

Absolutely feigning bowing cowering submissive adoring CRAP.

humming sweet lullabyes to a dirty rotten lying Attorney General.

As a writing teacher, I so love it when people can put it into words.

:yourock:



Cher

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 12:10 AM
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163. It flows when I'm angry about their taking my country, my sweet
imperfect country - that I once knew. Funny thing - the more angry I am, the fewer typos I have. Thanks.

It's late evening and I can't stop thinking about what I heard coming from his mouth this morning. It was scary. Why do we have to put up with that guy. Someone said Ashcroft was worse, but I say Gonzales is. By quantity and quality of outright evil and theft - Gonzales wins with me.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:28 PM
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149. hey they can dish it out but they can't take it huh?
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:47 PM
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162. I'm sure Eric Alie, Mike Ramirez, and many other cartoonists will have
Pat Leahy literally torturing AG
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:31 PM
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43. Thank you all for feeding the cube rats!
What was his response to the question about signing statements please?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:32 PM
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44. No prosecution of a Corporate Contractor in Iraq
Can you say Halliburton?
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:32 PM
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45. Gonzales says that habeas corpus is NOT guaranteed
to all those in the United States. Specter says that if it can only be taken away under invasion or rebellion, that means we have it. Gonzales says he disagrees with that. Specter told him he was going against common sense.

Now Specter is telling Gonzales he is lying about Bush not using signing statements more than other presidents, and brought out the numbers. Ha, ha!!
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:35 PM
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56. did I hear that right?
Gonzales said that conditions for taking away Habeus Corpus is in Constitution...but nothing about giving people the right to it?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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86. Here it is VERBATIM
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:48 PM
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112. wow!
stunning. Thanks for transcribing.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:15 PM
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145. Yes, you did. He's demonstrating "strict constructionist" philosophy
for the world to see. Disgusting little weasel!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:55 PM
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124. Gonzo's comments on that make it absolutely certain he's corrupt - unqualified to serve ...
... in ANY position of trust, particularly as a judge, AG, or even attorney!

He said that the Constitution does not confer a human right of habeas corpus. In making this corrupt claim, he's clearly implying that the role of the Constitution is to create or specify what human rights exist. IT'S NOT! In no way, shape, or form can the Constitution ever be seen as conferring human rights or civil liberties. Why? Because it's very existence is premised upon the pre-existing human rights to even write it!! Without the superior and pre-existing rights and liberties of human beings to establish their own government, no government can be regarded as morally legitimate.

The sole role of the Constitution is to establish a federal government and define its LIMITS! The federal government cannot legitimately overstep the boundaries established in the Constitution, and that includes the specific prohibition on abrogating the right of habeas corpus except VERY temporarily in the event of rebellion or insurrection - NEITHER of which exist!

When Gonzo attempted to abolish the claim to habeas corpus as not being established in the Constitution, he FOREVER proved himself corrupt and an enemy of our liberties and freedoms. NOTHING could more clearly indicate his corruption than that, imho.

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:03 PM
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137. Right now, a livid, red-faced Jonathan Turley is probably requesting to be on Keith's show tonight.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 01:04 PM by 8_year_nightmare
I'm horrified at how glib this administration is about its warped views.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:15 PM
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144. Yes. Glib and shameless. The depth of corruption is astounding.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 01:17 PM by TahitiNut
I really never dreamed before about 7 years ago that this country would fall so deeply into the pits of ignorance and criminality that this administration demonstrates daily.

I can imagine Jonathan Turley blowing a gasket over Gonzo's remarks. Anyone who'd make such remarks should NEVER be allowed to practice law, let alone graduate from law school. That Gonzo was on the Texas Supreme Court is testimony to the abject ignorance and deeply-embedded corruption in that state.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:34 PM
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150. they are interpreting the laws or making up their own laws
without paying attention to the laws we have. Am I correct for interpreting it that way?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:14 PM
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152. Sounds right to me. I was thinking 'creating loopholes in the Constitution'.
But that was before I read Tahiti Nut's commentary (#124); in a nutshell, just because each & every human right isn't specifically mentioned in the Constitution, it doesn't give this administration the authority to do as it pleases.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:33 PM
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47. Halliburton sells water with ecoli in it,
and it's hard to make a case? ---> Leahy
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:34 PM
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52. Leahy asking how hard this is??
To find out this stuff when the media can find it out.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:33 PM
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48. Let me tell you...
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:35 PM by Hepburn
...I am a lawyer and Leahy has Gonzo on dangerous grounds, IMO. I am hearing elements of "misprision of a felony."

JMHO

Edit to correct typo.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:34 PM
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49. Leahy: Halliburton is giving our troops water with e.coli?
Gonzo: there needs to be a way to investigate


Well, I am sure the Waxman is on to that! :)
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:34 PM
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51. I'm just catching up on all "Gonzo Grilling" threads.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM by Janice325
Thanks to all you DU'ers who are reporting.
Sounds like poor lil ole Gonzo is having a hard time. Tee hee.
I've recommended this as well as the previous 3 threads.
Edited to add I'm now watching Leahy absolutely demolish him.
Now they're going into recess.
WOW! :wow:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:35 PM
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54. Leahy talking about war profiteering.
Asked about investigations by the attorney general's office.

"We're in a war zone; not easy to investigate," said Gonzo.

Leahy then brought up how Halliburton has served water with ecoli in it to the troops. The media found out about this, why can't you?

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:35 PM
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55. Leahy wants some answers on how people
are being treated by our Government....
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:37 PM
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57. Why aren't you at Liberty
It is not executive privilage....
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:37 PM
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58. Now talking about the Canadian man kidnapped and
sent to Syria to be tortured.

Asking how come we never apologized to the man
and why is he still on terrorists watch list.
If he was found innocent, why is he still on watch list.

Gonzo says he has very strong views on this but he can't say
what they are right now. Can't do it today.
stutter, stutter, stutter... just can't do it.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:37 PM
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61. He's pleading the 5th without actually saying it
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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63. Freaking A Go Leahy!!!!!!!!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:46 PM
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107. "Canada is our closest ally; they're wondering what happened to us."
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:49 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Leahy is livid, red face & raised voice in this segment.

I didn't see the full hearing, but the Leahy segment made Gonzo the most uncomfortable. It was quite obvious that he couldn't deal with Leahy's line of questioning. His comfort zone, the Republican stronghold, isn't there for him anymore.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:37 PM
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59. I can't comment now
Leahy WHY???

Gonzo's rattled.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:37 PM
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60. Gonzo: I'm not at liberty to answer questions
Leahy: Why not, you are not under Executive privilege
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:34 PM
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147. once again: is he the People's Attorney or the WH counsel--not acting like the People's attorney
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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62. Leahy now asking him about Canadian citizen
detained here and deported to Syria. Sent thousands of miles away to Syria, held for 10 months, Canadian commission found he had no connections to terrorism, and was tortured in Syria. Canadians have apologized for their part in the debacle, people resigned, we have not apologized. Justice Dept had approved his trip to Syria, still in on our Watch List.

Why is he on the Govt Watch list when found innocent by Canadians? Gonzo is not at liberty to discuss this - Why? Leahy asks, not a matter of executive privilege. WHY??? Leahy asks. Why was he sent to syria?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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64. Holy shit
Leahy is yelling at him!
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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65. Leahy is really, really pissed.
Practically shouting.

beneath dignity of our country to send someone to another country to
be tortured.

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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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73. "I'm somewhat upset."... HOLY CRAP.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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66. Can Gonzo just laugh all this off and forget it all by the time he reaches the door? n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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82. I wonder. n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
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89. And still, Gonzales has that sociopathic smirk we know all too well. n/t
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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98. Does Congress not have a stick regarding Gonzo?
Does he answer their questions and listen to their comments strictly out of courtesy?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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67. Woah, Leahy's losing it! nt
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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68. You Tell Them Senator Leahy----Get Angry About This......
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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69. Leahy spanking him now!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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Spanking....
...he is freaking beating him with the business end of a belt!

This is A-freaking-mazing! :wow:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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70. Leahy is FURIOUS!
That Canadian man who was found innocent by Canada, who had our intelligence, was sent to Syria. WHY? YOU KNEW HE'D BE TORTURED!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 PM
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71. OMG!!!! Leahy is PISSED AS HELL about taking prisoners to other countries TO BE TORTURED!
Holy Cow is he mad!
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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74. WHOA
We knew damn well he wouldn't be tortured if he was sent to Canada.
And we knew damn well he would be tortured if he went to Syria

Laying into Gonzolas heavy
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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75. Holy crap! Go, Leahy! n.t
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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76. Leahy: We knew damn well if he went to Syria, he would be tortured
YELLING!!! We knew damn well if he went to Canada he would NOT be tortured. Go, Leahy!! I love this man!!
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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77. "YOU KNOW DAMN WELL if he were sent to CANADA he wouldn't get tortured!"
"Why are we receiving assurances from Syria, who we won't talk to because we don't trust what they say!?"
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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78. It's about Freaking Time we raised the torture issue....
We need to clean our country up...Starting with the top....
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:39 PM
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79. Gonzo weaseling some more:
I'll get you more info next week.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:42 PM
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92. Someone should call him out on his "present the position of
the Executive Branch". He was specifically asked during his nomination hearing whether he would be independent and serve as the Attorney General for the people and not the president. He vowed he would.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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80. Wow! Leahy's bawling the little bastard out!
Talking about Meher Arar--finally got tired of Gonzo's BS. He's cutting him off and is now demanding the long-delayed briefing paper. Just told him he's got one week to get it to him or there'll be another hearing.

GO LEAHY!!! :applause:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:46 PM
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108. Wonder If He'll Run To Paraguay With * & Co? nt
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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81. Leahy: You knew DAMN WELL he wouldn't be tortured in Canada
And you knew DAMN WELL that he WOULD be tortured in Syria
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
Original message
Funny, I was listening to this as I track another rendition
flight in another thread.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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100. Perfect ending before the break. Damnnnnnn.
Leahy yelling at Gonzo - this should be re-played on every news program tonight. Won't be, but it should be the leading story.

Memo to Chucklenuts and Dead Eye - this aint's your repugs lapdog Congress. Get used to it.

During the lunch break Gonzales will need to consult with a physician to get Leahy's foot removed from his ass.

We are seeing the promise of November 7th today.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:04 PM
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138. Ohhh....Stop it.....
"During the lunch break Gonzales will need to consult with a physician to get Leahy's foot removed from his ass."

:rofl:

Damn, that was good.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:47 PM
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110. Wow, that's really standing up for principle there. Thank you, Leahy!
He's gained some stature in my mind just from that.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:02 PM
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135. THAT (righteous!) diatribe will make the news (Countdown)... and probably the Daily Show.
It's about time somebody got openly angry at the sleazy, corrupt, and criminal bastard! Gonzales is one of my top candidates for life imprisonment. He's an outright enemy of the Constitution and war criminal, every bit as much as the appallingly corrupt judicial facilitators of the Third Reich.



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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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83. Leahy: We can't talk to Syria, and we take assurances from them
that they will not torture him??? He says he is angry, Canada is wondering what is happening to us. You take an oath of office to protect peoples' rights.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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84. O.K., What's,Gonna Be The End Result Of Today's Hearing?
What's this all leading to? Thanks for info for us "cube rats.":)
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:43 PM
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95. more hearings
and soon. They have a lot of territory to cover and a lot of unanswered questions.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:45 PM
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103. I assume it's leading to the dismantling of the entire Bush Administration
It has to start somewhere, and here it is!

I'm so damn proud of our new Congress.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:40 PM
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85. Gonzo is really, really in over his head now that the
republicans are no longer in charge.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:42 PM
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90. Welcome to the New (and improved) Senate, Gonzo!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:45 PM
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104. Interesting how inept he seems when he has no protection.
His stonewalling isn't going to help him anymore. It can only lead to other fine tools the Democrats now have: subpoena power & impeachment.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
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87. Leahy's giving him a week
for a briefing & then will come after him with another hearing....I love this man! Smooch!!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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96. Why am I hoping that Leahy does not get the briefing?
So we can have more BBQ Gonzales again? I have to admit, this was great today... Compared to the Republicans just saying the same old talking points, the Democrats threw down today....
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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97. THAT was phenomenal!!!
I half expected Leahy to say he was going to slap subpoenas on his ass!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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99. I am crying...yes....tears are running down my face.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 12:52 PM by Hepburn
Thank you, Sen. Leahy...for shoveling out the shit and wiping off the crap that BushCo has buried our nation in.

Thank you, thank you, thank you...words fail me.

Edit for typo
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:50 PM
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114. send him a golden shovel? Or a photo captioned with this.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:36 PM
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153. he can shovel-whip Gonzo with it
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:59 PM
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130. I just sent him an email
thanking him. I don't know where this country would be if the Democrats hadn't regained a majority & if Senator Leahy didn't press his convictions into action. We were on the brink of complete fascism.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:46 PM
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105. Thats too generous, didn't gonzo say he thought he could do it in a week before Leahy gave him the
time?

Leahy was out of patience with him, gonzo came empty handed to a hearing for which he knew he would be challenged on all this stuff. there is no excuse for him to have another week on something like that case.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:55 PM
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125. Awesome finale. Actually gave me an endorphin rush.
:woohoo:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:41 PM
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88. Recess until 2pm
That was Excellent!

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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:50 PM
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115. Wow. I'm still stunned.
Is this what the beginning of holding people accountable looks and sounds like? I'd forgotten. This feels sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good.:-)
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:42 PM
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91. I want to thank Leahy somehow for holding this arrogant
little twit accountable for his willingness to subvert the constitution
of our country in the name of national security.

This, folks, is a my idea of a hero.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:42 PM
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93. Recessed until 2:00. I wonder if Gonzo will have to change
his pants or be busy puking his guts out during that time. :rofl:
This is priceless!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:45 PM
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102. He's going to be 'in conference' with those newly hired lawyers
that the WH stocked up on over the past couple of months.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:47 PM
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109. Either puking or severe explosive diarrhea
That was brutal!
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:43 PM
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94. Recessing now.
But the reverberations of the savage dressing down that Leahy just gave the little shit will echo. Probably spoiled Gonzo's lunch!

I LOVE LEAHY!!!! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:51 PM
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119. Gonzo's lunch break....
Does he eat and throw up...not eat and just down tranqs...and how long will it take him to get a staffer to run to the local drug store to get him a supply of Depends or this afternoon's hearing?

I AM LOVING THIS ~~ IT IS ABOUT TIME THOSE ARROGANT, LYING BASTARDS GOT CALLED TO TASK AND OUTED.

Too bad, IMO, is this not on natl TV like the Watergate hearings were ~~ maybe that deluded 30% still supports the asshole in the WH would freaking wake up!

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:56 PM
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151. Having sat through the whole of the watergate hearings I am wishing
that we had a responsible press that would cover all of these hearing. Surely with all the cable channels we have someone could see that the American people had the information it needs and wants.

Thank all of you for your insight into the content of the hearings and for trying to right the wrongs that have been done in the last 6 years.
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:44 PM
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101. we have to get this coverage to KO
so he can show talk about it tonight on Countdown
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:46 PM
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106. I can't wait to hear Mike Malloy on this later also. n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:51 PM
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117. do it! I wish i knew how to retrieve that film clip to send it in myself.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:48 PM
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111. GO MAN GO
It's only the beginning, only starting. Payback is going to be a wonderful thing to behold, I haven't seen anger like this in the government for so long, if ever it still has my eyes wet.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:10 PM
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140. The Army-McArthy hearings were like that.
I was only about 6 years old at the time, but I remember them. I ws old enough to know something very important was going on when everybody was hollering at that nasty little man.

It got like that on the Nixon hearings, too. Wish all you youngsters could have seen old Sam and his eyebrows when he got shittin' at Nixon.

Wat
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:50 PM
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113. I LOVE LEAHY!!!!!
Wow. Just wow. He was so AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:loveya: :yourock: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot: :spray: :bounce: :hippie: B-) :evilgrin: That was just so IMPRESSIVE!!!!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:54 PM
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120. Leahy's office and a few others actually, ought to be called to give credit
When it is due, like it is right now, they ought to be inundated with call of appreciation for doing their jobs so well.

Yes, it is their jobs, but now, they are doing it VERY WELL.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:12 PM
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141. And Kyl, Sessions, Cornyn should get calls too!
They need to be taken to task for kissing up while letting America down.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:14 PM
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143. Great idea!
Does anyone have his number? I can't stop to look it up. I'm on the go here.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:51 PM
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116. Can;t wait until 2 when they start again!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:56 PM
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126. Yeah.........
...I am really for a pacifist getting into this blood letting on Gonzo!

:evilgrin:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:57 PM
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128. Will Gonzales be back at 2? n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:00 PM
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131. This was absolutely fabulous
I just hope that we don't have some type of "national emergency" before 2:00.
I kind of expect Gonzo to skip the afternoon.
I really do.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:54 PM
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122. Wow, this is a good show. Is anyone keeping track of how many
senators have complained about not getting requested information from Gonzalez? I know there have been several. It makes all of his promises to "get back to you later" a little hard to believe. He's used to just slithering out of uncomfortable situations. I'm glad he is finally getting nailed.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:57 PM
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127. That get-back-to-you tactic is getting old. I loved when Leahy almost talked over him & said "when?"
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:02 PM
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136. He must hold the record for " get back to you laters"...
:shrug:
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:58 PM
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129. Thanks you guys
I had to be away this morning, but reading these threads, I feel as though I was there.

They usually re-run these at night on Cspan1 or 2 if nothing else is happening. I want to see it.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:00 PM
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132. Go to...
www.c-span.org and at the bottom of the page in the middle is a link to Capitol Hearings...you can follow that link to the hearing schedules, and follow those links to the committee page where you can watch a live webcast. All Senate hearings are webcast.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:45 PM
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155. Is it possible to view this AFTER it has occurred? I didn't see it live and I so
want to see it!!!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:47 PM
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156. C-Span 3 rebroacasting right now - 6:00 pm
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:57 PM
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157. Yahooo! Thanks!!!!!!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:01 PM
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158. Sure!
It's a good show - watching Gonzales squirm right now about the anthrax investigation.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:21 PM
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160. Dayum!!! Go Sen Leahy! He made me weep! He spoke for me!
:bounce: :cry:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:01 PM
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133. Thread 5 is up
Please click here.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:12 PM
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142. Link ain't workin'
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:01 PM
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134. I have to go back to work.
You guys keep up the good work and let me know everything
when I get back.

:loveya:

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 01:05 PM
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139. Kicking this!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:40 PM
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154. So... no thread #5?
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 05:41 PM by Marie26
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