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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:22 PM
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Why is Venezuela a dictatorship according to the Right, but El Salvador is not?
El Salvador is a one party state ruled by the ARENA Party, considered to be a Fascist party and totally misogynist. They've banned all abortions and use 'tests' to supposedly see if the woman had an abortion or not, in reality these so-called exams amount to rape. Despite their winning streak for many years now, no Republican up here has dared to ask if any of these election were fair or not.

Where is Pat Robertson calling for assassinations?

Where is Fox News?

Where is the Bush Administration?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:24 PM
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1. Does El Salvador have oil?
A publically-owned petroleum company?

Probably not.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:27 PM
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2. Because they AGREE with El Salvador's fascist policies of repression.


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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:28 PM
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3. Because El Salvador is a RW dictatorship
...and they have no resources we want.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:29 PM
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4. El Salvador has been stuck in American orbit for decades now.
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 06:31 PM by Selatius
Some number of Contras used El Salvador as a staging area to launch attacks into neighboring Nicaragua, which was just across the bay in the 1980s. At the time, the people elected Daniel Ortega as president, whom Reagan condemned as a communist. Afterward, he supported the Contras in their war to rip down the Sandinistas.

El Salvador has a business-friendly environment, good for sweatshop cheap labor.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:39 PM
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7. Some number of contractors that were called "Contras" here
were paid to use El Salvador as a staging area. Let's take credit when it's due. lol
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:33 PM
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5. Venezuela has OIL...
that is simple.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:35 PM
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6. Because they like fascist dictatorships
It does no good to ask rightwing fascist tyrants to be balanced. They want us all in chains.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:57 PM
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8. Bingo!
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 06:58 PM by roamer65
We have a WINNER!
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:35 PM
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9. Cuz
Chavez called your pretzledent the devil?
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:41 PM
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10. Because
partisans see dictatorship when it exists on the other side. Many liberals don't see a dictator in Castro, and for many years did not see a dictator in Stalin. The right is the same way about Franco, Pinochet, etc...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:57 PM
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11. one stop shopping...for answers to (why?)
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 08:11 PM by stillcool47
available here:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

Central America page
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_America/Central_America_page.html


Friendly Dictators
by Dennis Bernstein and Laura Sydell
Eclipse Enterprises, 1995
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Dictators/Friendly_Dictators.html


MAKING THE WORLD SAFE FOR HYPOCRISY
(This article is from the book DIRTY TRUTHS
written by MICHAEL PARENTI)
Why has the United States government supported counterinsurgency in Colombia, Guatemala, El Salvador, and many other places around the world, at such a loss of human life to the populations of those nations? Why did it invade tiny Grenada and then Panama? Why did it support mercenary wars against progressive governments in Nicaragua, Mozambique, Angola, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Indonesia, East Timor, Western Sahara, South Yemen, and elsewhere? Is it because our leaders want to save democracy? Are they concerned about the well-being of these defenseless peoples? Is our national security threatened? I shall try to show that the arguments given to justify U.S. policies are false ones. But this does not mean the policies themselves are senseless. American intervention may seem "wrongheaded" but, in fact, it is fairly consistent and horribly successful.

The history of the United States has been one of territorial and economic expansionism, with the benefits going mostly to the U.S. business class in the form of growing investments and markets, access to rich natural resources and cheap labor, and the accumulation of enormous profits. The American people have had to pay the costs of empire, supporting a huge military establishment with their taxes, while suffering the loss of jobs, the neglect of domestic services, and the loss of tens of thousands of American lives in overseas military ventures.
--------------------------------------
All this is common knowledge to progressive critics of U.S policy, but most Americans would be astonished to hear of it. They have been taught that, unlike other nations, their country has escaped the sins of empire and has been a champion of peace and justice among nations. This enormous gap between what the United States does in the world and what Americans think their nation is doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology. It should be noted, though, that despite the endless propaganda barrage emanating from official sources and the corporate-owned major media, large sectors of the public have throughout U.S. history displayed an anti-interventionist sentiment, an unwillingness to commit U.S. troops to overseas actions-a sentiment facilely labeled "isolationism" by the interventionists.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/hypocrisy_Parenti.html


A Brief History of U.S. Interventions:
1945 to the Present
by William Blum
Z magazine , June 1999
The engine of American foreign policy has been fueled not by a devotion to any kind of morality, but rather by the necessity to serve other imperatives, which can be summarized as follows:
* making the world safe for American corporations;
* enhancing the financial statements of defense contractors at home who have contributed generously to members of congress;
* preventing the rise of any society that might serve as a successful example of an alternative to the capitalist model;
* extending political and economic hegemony over as wide an area as possible, as befits a "great power."

This in the name of fighting a supposed moral crusade against what cold warriors convinced themselves, and the American people, was the existence of an evil International Communist Conspiracy, which in fact never existed, evil or not
The United States carried out extremely serious interventions into more than 70 nations in this period.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html




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