Smoking Question: how many people have died from second hand smoke?

[Taverner]

I question how deadly second hand smoke is...sure it's dangerous, but how many have actually died from it?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Look for the studies

but the Medical Research has proven a cause effect link.

By the by, my dad is a smoker and let me tell you I (and the cockatiel) get terribly sick when we inhale that junk

[Bluebear]

2. Oh, excellent! Smoking is never discussed here and it is a pity.

:)

[trotsky]

5. LMAO

Over/under for responses on this thread - how does 350 sound to you? What's your wager?

[Bluebear]

7. With 4187 views before a mod calls it a "flamefest'. The windows are open.

[Sapere aude]

3. Smoking thread #2 for today or is it more?

[cboy4]

4. Whew.....am I starving to death!!

[Midlodemocrat]

11. Gosh, me, too. Can I have some?

[cboy4]

15. For you? Anything!

:pals:

[LostinVA]

18. Yum!

[cboy4]

19. Here ya go!

:hug:

[Horse with no Name]

26. I just want to make sure you have enough to fill that popcorn maker

[dogday]

6. Okey Dokey then........

[Ezlivin]

8. One too many

My pithy answer for the day.

:)

When I smoke people want to inhale the smoke. Sometimes I have to beat them back with the few remaining boxes of snacks that I have.

[sandnsea]

9. I don't think that's the issue

I do think people have gotten cancer from breathing second hand smoke, just as people have gotten cancer from breathing in a variety of other fumes. The issue is whether we're going to let the real global warming issues be sidelined by another manufactured war on cigarettes.

[originalpckelly]

10. Find me the numbers about those who've died from smoking.

[sam sarrha]

12. the surgeon general of the US said there is no acceptable level of second hand smoke, it effects the

body immediately and starts changing normal levels of many factors..

it isn't just the killing of people but giving children and others asthma and effecting their quality of life...

it is going to be pretty hard to find any real information not doctored by the Tobacco company.. they go to great lengths to inhibit and confuse.. they make billions of dollars killing people and enticing children to smoke.. if they could not entice children to smoke, withing 50 years there would be no more smokers .. adults rarely start smoking because they are working to long and hard to worry about looking Cool.. and their money is already allocated to necissities..

my father and his father and my uncles and aunts and friends that have died from tobacco related diseases did not have Tobacco as their cause of death.. i believe it many more dead than estimated. and many more debilitated and in declining ill health than estimated


google: surgen general 2006 tobacco report

[cboy4]

13. There are people responding with serious answers!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


edit..I was laughing so hard, I missed a typo :blush:

[Redbear]

14. The numbers from the US Surgeon General

"Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths among U.S. nonsmokers each year."

"Secondhand smoke causes tens of thousands of heart disease deaths each year among U.S. nonsmokers."

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/news/speeches/06272006a.html

[deepthought42]

16. I can say from personal experience...

That living on a smoking floor for one semester of college was not a pleasant experience! I noticed about half-way through the semester that I was coughing all the time, something I do not normally do. It became quite embarrassing in classes. Once I went home for winter break, it cleared up, of course.

[tandot]

17. Just some research articles from Google Scholar:

http://www.circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/111/20/2684


http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2121/5/13/


http://www.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/328/7446/988.pdf

on edit:

the last link concludes that "Adults who had never smoked and who lived with smokers had about 15% higher mortality than never smokers living in a smoke-free household"

[A Simple Game]

20. So... 15% of non-smokers living with non-smokers are

immortal?

Sorry, someone had to ask.

[tandot]

22. It sounds kinda funny if you put it that way

we all die sooner or later.

They are comparing groups of people in a given time period. A certain percentage will die in the non-smoking and non-exposed to second-hand smoke group. However, if you compare that group to the non-smoking but exposed to second-hand smoke group, 15% more died in that group.

[A Simple Game]

24. I was pretty sure that is what it meant,

I was just pulling your leg. Sorry.

[tandot]

27. That was my first thought

...that you were trying to pull my leg. However, I've learned that I should never assume that people automatically know how to interpret research.

No need to say sorry.

:hi:

[RobinA]

21. Smirk...

The mortality rate is 100% at this point in the history of mankind. How can the rate among people who live with smokers be 15% higher? Do they die twice? Does this mean that people who live with smokers die and then come back to life to die again at some point? If I am a smoker who was raised by a smoker, can I die three times? Or does the second life bestowed upon me by his smoking get cancelled out by the fact that my life insurance company seems to think that, as a smoker, I have a greater risk of dying than does a non-smoker?

[tandot]

23. See my reply #22 to post #20

Some groups of people just have a greater risk of dying than others. Smokers are one group. Then we have the obese, habitual risk-takers, people who live in war zones or crime ridden neighborhoods...

We all have to go sooner or later.

I am an ex-smoker (quit 12 years ago).

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Not Nearly Enough To Make It As Heated Of A Topic As It Is.

Not nearly.

In fact, it's probably far more fallacy than anything else.