I don't think either Gore or Clark will run against H. Clinton...

[Virginia Dare]

Just a feeling I have.

I think Clark has a good chance of being her eventual running mate if she gets that far. I doubt Gore would be interested in being V.P. again. It will be interesting to see who he backs, if anybody, if he doesn't end up running.

[Crabby Appleton]

1. Clark might, Gore will not

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. I was going to post just the opposite. Gore may, Clark won't.

:) We shall see.:hi:

[Crabby Appleton]

18. I guess we cancel each other out.

[NYCGirl]

3. That's exactly opposite of what the political people have been saying...

Gore will run if Hillary Clinton does.

[Virginia Dare]

6. It would truly be an odd race...

Both of them running on the Bill Clinton legacy. That's the way the media would set it up anyway. Whatever happens, it's going to be really interesting...:popcorn:

[NYCGirl]

9. Somehow I think he has somewhat more to offer than merely the Clinton

legacy.

[Virginia Dare]

54. Of course he does...

but not everybody in this country sees Gore through the same eyes that we here at DU might. As I said, the media would try and set it up that way.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. I think Gore has established he has much more to run on than a Clinton legacy.

He's done much more than most former VP's in his time since he was in office. I feel that will be more the focus of the media, as he's set it up to be.

[Trajan]

4. Very few people think Gore will reverse his stance

and enter the race: He has stated MANY times he will not run, and has left very little room to alter that stance ...

Clark would be a good running mate for whomever wins the nomination, and if he wins, a good running mate for his VP pick ...

[NYCGirl]

10. Yeah, that's why Reuters had to correct their recent article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070117/pl_nm/gore_japan_climate_dc_1

[Trajan]

17. I saw Albert Gore in person ....

I heard it, from him, with my own ears ....

Albert Gore will NOT run for elective office again ....

I love the man, and he would be my first choice over all: But I find it hard to expand "haven't ruled it out" into a full blown national elective campaign ...

He was SO earnest and real when he said he would never run again .... You could hear it in his tone and see it in his manner .... I trust Albert Gore's sincere word more than an offhand comment about 'not ruling it out' ...

IF I am wrong, I couldnt be more pleased ...

[NYCGirl]

19. So did I, and met him too. NT

[RestoreGore]

27. Met him last July....

At a book signing, and he is totally passionate and dedicated regarding what he is doing now and I love him so much for it, for it has been a long time coming for this nation to see our Earth as a true priority. You could see it in his eyes, his mannerisms, and in his tone that he is very much fulfilled in his life doing what he has wished to do for the thirty years he beat his head on that brickwall trying to get politicians to listen to the warnings. That is why I have never seen Mr. Gore as a "politician" but as a public servant. And he continues to serve this nation regardless of title, and for that he has has my undying respect and gratitude.

[RestoreGore]

28. Met him last July....

At a book signing, and he is totally passionate and dedicated regarding what he is doing now and I love him so much for it, for it has been a long time coming for this nation to see our Earth as a true priority. You could see it in his eyes, his mannerisms, and in his tone that he is very much fulfilled in his life doing what he has wished to do for the thirty years he beat his head on that brickwall trying to get politicians to listen to the warnings. That is why I have never seen Mr. Gore as a "politician" but as a public servant. And he continues to serve this nation regardless of title, and for that he has has my undying respect and gratitude.

[RestoreGore]

31. Met him last July....

At a book signing, and he is totally passionate and dedicated regarding what he is doing now and I love him so much for it, for it has been a long time coming for this nation to see our Earth as a true priority. You could see it in his eyes, his mannerisms, and in his tone that he is very much fulfilled in his life doing what he has wished to do for the thirty years he beat his head on that brickwall trying to get politicians to listen to the warnings. That is why I have never seen Mr. Gore as a "politician" but as a public servant. And he continues to serve this nation regardless of title, and for that he has has my undying respect and gratitude.

[RestoreGore]

32. I met him last July...

At a book signing, and he is totally passionate and dedicated regarding what he is doing now and I love him so much for it, for it has been a long time coming for this nation to see our Earth as a true priority. You could see it in his eyes, his mannerisms, and in his tone that he is very much fulfilled in his life doing what he has wished to do for the thirty years he beat his head on that brickwall trying to get politicians to listen to the warnings. That is why I have never seen Mr. Gore as a "politician" but as a public servant. And he continues to serve this nation regardless of title, and for that he has has my undying respect and gratitude.

[RestoreGore]

40. Anyone else experiencing problems posting?

Now my response posted so many times... Sorry about that.

[Poiuyt]

55. No, only you

[Poiuyt]

56. No, only you

[Poiuyt]

57. No, only you

[helderheid]

51. I've NEVER heard him say he would not run. He's said "I don't have any plans" to run. Big difference

[RestoreGore]

53. Most recent interview with him...

http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.htm?programID=07-P13-00003&segmentID=1

GORE: It's nice when someone says that they think that about me and I do appreciate that. But I do not have any plans or intentions or expectations of it. I've fallen out of love with politics. (laughs) I'm not hungering to ever be a candidate again and really do not anticipate any circumstances under which I would be. But again, I'm involved in a different kind of campaign. It's an effort to try to persuade people about why and how, we must rise to the challenge, the most serious challenge our civilization has ever faced. And that's the focus of my efforts.

[hippiechick]

5. Clark will be her VP candidate ...

... he was their hand-picked candidate in '04 ...

I don't know that there's any love between the Clinton's and the Gore's anymore (if there ever was alot?) so I don't think her running would deter Al at all. In fact, I hope it spurs him to jump in!

:hippie:

[Virginia Dare]

7. I don't think it has anything to do with "love" or lack thereof...

it's resources.

[kevsand]

33. So how was Clark "their hand-picked candidate in '04?"

This is a particularly persistent piece of urban folklore, but that doesn't make it any truer. If you have actual proof of this, please show me. I have yet to see anything other than speculation and uninformed opinion. Show me hard facts, or at least a clear statement from a credible witness.

What I think you'll find is exactly the opposite: the Clintons didn't lift a finger for anyone in 2004 until well after the primaries.

[mnhtnbb]

8. Clark as Hillary's VP seems like a logical choice.

There was no love lost between Gore and Bill after Bill lied to Al
re Monica. I don't think Hillary being in/out would affect Gore's decision. I just think Gore doesn't have the fire in his belly for another presidential race.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. I think Obama will be her running mate IF she wins the Primary.

It also depends on how he does in the Primary. If he gives her a good run for her money, he's a shoe-in for VP, IMCPO and Clark will be SOS.:)

[madokie]

11. the hill is such a polarizing figure she won't make it much past go

and this is coming from a guy who used to state on here I would like to see her as President. the operative word here being 'used'

splchk

[malaise]

12. Gore will run and beat all comers n/t

[bahrbearian]

13. I think Hilliary would be a good VP canidate for Gore.

[ThomWV]

14. It Will Be Gore and Clark As Our Nominees

No Hillary anywhere in sight.

[halobeam]

15. from your lips......

[frogcycle]

16. i hadn't thought of this nuance until just now

and well, duh, i feel stupid. but in the various considerations of whether to run and when to announce it, Gore HAD to wait until Hil and Obama made their moves. Had he already been an announced candidate then their entering the fray would have conveyed a rejection of him to the general populace.

If he is the very last one to declare, the message is "I'm right and you're ALL wrong". If he's polite about it, he looks like a savior. I actually think a lot of the less-politically-engaged voters will form opinions on things as vague as that.

Then if he makes a quick move to the top of the polls, they can all drop out and throw their support behind him without any flip-flopping. The impression can be that "well, I was only running because he was not".

I think he is like a football team running the clock down to kick the game-tying field goal with no time left on the clock. Don't have to play defense during the regular time; be fresh for the overtime.

He, Clark, Kerry are by far the best qualified. Everyone else is the warmup group, in my opinion. Hilary is a wild card. Her poll numbers are good, but as to qualifications and electability, I still consider her second-tier.

Does anybody know how "binding" most of the primaries are? Way back when, candidates could drop out and deliver their slate of delegates to another candidate. The "favorite son" candidates ran for that express purpose - to get some collateral with which to bargain. Is that all out the window now?

[smoogatz]

20. They both will.

Gore will run way to the left of Hillary; there's almost no overlap in their positions at all. Clark will run for VP, and has a reasonable shot at it--though everybody's first choice for VP will be Obama.

[MilesColtrane]

21. Please give me Clark/Edwards....

If Clark doesn't run I'd settle for Edwards/Obama.

[kevsand]

23. Wrong on both counts.

Neither Gore nor Clark is particularly afraid of Hillary, nor does either owe her anything. In both cases, their decision whether or not to run is entirely independent of anything Hillary does; I think either would be more than willing to challenge her under the right circumstances.

In Gore's case, he was never going to run anyway. How many times does he have to say it before anyone hears him?

Clark, however, has yet to make a final decision. When he does, it will be based on whether he thinks he can make a difference, whether he thinks the country has needs that are being unmet by any other candidates, whether he thinks he has the most to offer, and whether he thinks he can muster the resources to have a legitimate campaign.

[eringer]

24. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. You lost me. Who's Martin O'Malley?

:crazy:

[crispini]

43. The governor of MARYLAND?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[SeveneightyWhoa]

49. Welcome to DU.

Hopefully all your posts continue to be just as *hilarious*. We need some more humour around here.

[eringer]

25. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

26. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

29. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

30. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

35. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

36. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

37. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[eringer]

38. The Democrats need someone new

The Democrats need to look forward, not backward, for a person to lead our great nation. Someone that the Republicans cannot smear or humiliate. Someone with a strong family and strong family values. Someone that would appeal to both young and old. Someone that has stood up to this administration. Someone whose character has been attacked by the other side and endured unscathed. Someone that the Republicans fear most...Govenor Martin O'Malley.
:dem: O'MALLEY08:dem:

[SeveneightyWhoa]

50. C'mon, post it one more time!

I didn't get the message the first 38 times.

[patricia92243]

41. I have not seen Clark on TV in ages. I'm surprised he is not commenting on Bush's folly (Iraq.)

Are you sure he is even interested in politics at this time?

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. He works for FAUX NEWS as a Military analyst. That's why you don't see him.

I NEVER watch FAUX (it's banned from my home) and the ONLY time I see Wes is when he's on C-SPAN. He's still interested in politics. He travels the country for our Dems and helps raise money. He said he would be announcing SOON whether or not he would run. I think he was waiting for Hillary to announce.

[Pithy Cherub]

45. Actually now that Clark is lecturing at UCLA and

he has a national security conference set up in March that promises to be very interesting, he will not announce anything until after that. Clark wants the focus on the conference with the very big players that are participating and does not want it seen trough the prism of politics. Clark could/should actually wait until March and be fine since the first televised debate is not until April. :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

48. Now that sounds interesting. A National Security Conference, eh? Is it open to the public?

Will it be on C-SPAN?

[Pithy Cherub]

52. Parts of it will definitely

have a public component. Clark has this obligation to do this as part of joining the international relations faculty. After teaching at West Point who wouldn't want him! :)

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=53116

[high density]

46. He was on Bill O'Lielly's show fairly recently

correcting various untruths.

Take a look at Clark's PAC... He is still very interested in politics. http://securingamerica.com/

[generaldemocrat]

44. All of you are way overblowing the Clinton-Clark relationship....

I don't think that General Clark is desperate to play second fiddle to anyone and if he runs for the nomination, it's only because the foreign policy/security situation is getting out of hand. I don't think he's one of those guys who's out there with his hand out saying "pick me to be your VP" just so I can have a job.

Wes Clark was a General under the Clintons way back in the day and that's about it. Beyond that there is no collaborative, behind the scenes, power-brokering going on between the Clintons and Clark. Wes Clark is outside the Clinton imperium, he's not an insider.

The Clintons have never done anything for Wes Clark (ok they gave him a medal, that's it) so why should they start now?

[crispini]

47. The rumors on the internets are that a Clinton candidacy...

makes a Gore candidacy MORE likely.