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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:57 PM
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Poll question: It is OK to support the use of Democrat to define Democratic when
referring to our party. We should condone/embrace/support this improper usage of a noun to describe a noun because we should not care how we are labeled. It is just being overly sensitive. Do you agree that is alright to let the Publicans choose our moniker?
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:00 AM
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1. I use Democratic party but, I think we all are just a bit oversensitive.
In reality, does it really matter all that much in the scheme of things???
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:03 AM
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2. It matters because the moniker is a Publican slur that even those
within our own ranks are advocating the acceptance of.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:04 AM
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4. I think it does matter and we either need to find a way to
enforce a bit of public respect or remove the issue from discussion.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:08 AM
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5. I agree -- if an individual chooses to accept a slur,
let them do it in private. It has no place in this forum.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:15 AM
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9. the sole purpose is to demean...
It's just like the difference between saying "that Jewish couple over there" and "that Jew couple over there."

The first is clearly both grammatically correct and neutral: it's simply stating the fact that this couple is Jewish.

The second, however, would only be uttered by a neo-Nazi or someone with similar anti-Semitic feelings: a certain sneering and demeaning attitude is implied in the statement.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:03 AM
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3. Usefulness of "Democrat Party" Label
There's usefulness in the Pub's saying "Democrat Party." That way, we ALWAYS know a disrupting poser piece of excreta when one appears on this forum, or in the press. It's a perfect "indicator," as they say of playing cars with marks on the back to mark the aces.

It's like propaganda litmus paper. They say "Democrat Party," they label themselves as the enemy.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:10 AM
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6. I agree with you, however, it will only be useful for a certain limited
time, as it will, like all idiotic canards, pass into public idiom and lose its usefulness.
The official, legal name for the party is "democratic" and has been since, I think, 1925.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:14 AM
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8. It's not a new thing, though
There's a wikipedia article on it and from what I've read it has been around for quite some time. Personally I liked the remedy that every time they say "Democrat Party" we "accidentally" mispronounce John Boehner's name.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:30 AM
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13. Barry Goldwater Started It
I can remember it as clearly as the "AUH20" bumperstrips in 1964. I was only 11 years old, but I remember it just the same. "The Democrat Party." Ugh
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:12 AM
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7. I'm never keen on letting others define me.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:15 AM
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10. It's a matter of proper English !!
I am a Democrat, and I belong to the Democratic Party !! Would you say you are Democratic and belong to the Democrat Party? For all intents a purposes, it's a "petty" gripe, but a good way to pick out the freepers, and, or, those who are too ignorant to know better! I really don't think they use it to upset us, as they aren't even aware that it's incorrect. Much like "O'Lielly was too stupid to know that Colbert was ridiculing him to his face!! LOL
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:18 AM
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12. Agreed -- thus my reason for posting this.
:dem: :hi:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:31 AM
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14. How democratic of you to ask our opinion on the matter...
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 12:32 AM by hlthe2b
rather than telling us how we should feel (as evidenced by a related thread). Kudos! I dare say YOU know what being a Democrat AND being democratic truly mean, and as a fellow member of the Democratic Party, I thank you! :toast:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:38 AM
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15. Cheers back at ya.
:toast: I must say I resent being told how to act or think and will never let someone else define my reality. :hi:
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:40 AM
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17. Right. Why is it so hard to see that it is the usage of "Republican" as the
noun and the adjective that is the exception?

Perhaps we should call their's the Republicanic Party?

But...I don't really give a rat's to tell you the truth. I agree with you, it's merely a great way to spot freepers.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:02 AM
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18. Of course, because when you consider the Labour party,
the Conservative party, or the Liberal party, it becomes clear that no other party anywhere in the world uses a word that is both adjective and noun. It's a good thing there was never something called the Whig party in the USA. :sarcasm:

Anyway, fraternal greetings from the Liberal Democrat Party.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:47 AM
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19. Good point.
So it's just really a matter of choice.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:16 AM
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11. Not A Big Deal To Me
But then I refer to the other party as the Repuke Party.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:40 AM
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16. I prefer Democratic Party but it isn't that big a deal to me
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 12:40 AM by nam78_two
Honestly, there is other stuff that riles me up so much more (like the theory of Evolution or the breaking of climate patterns being called lefty propaganda or this filthy war) that this kinda pales.. (along with "douchebags" and so on)....
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:06 AM
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20. It's not a big deal, but they have no reason to do it.
It's a playground taunt, a piece of juvenile snot-bucketry. They should be called on it for being deliberately rude.
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