Did Bush* give the finger to Protestors today? You be the judge - PHOTO

[jackstraw45]

Look in the rear window:

[fooj]

1. Wow. Little Lord Pissypants draws a friendly crowd wherever he goes.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Peace.

[brainshrub]

2. What is the source of this picture?

Where did you get it? Where was Bush? What event is happening here? Who took the photo?

Sorry, about the questions, but I don't see any context here.

[converted_democrat]

4. Mischawalka (I know I spelled that wrong) Indiana.. It was from today..n/t

[D_Master]

77. It's Mishiwaka...

I'm trying to look at the photo and figure out where this happened. My brother goes to school where he spoke and said he saw the motorcade when he got out of class. That area is the only "liberal" area of northern Indiana outside of maybe the Gary area so while in "red" Indiana, St. Joe county isn't always a loyal kool-aid drinking following.

[jackstraw45]

6. Ap Photo

The car carrying President Bush speeds past a group of protestors on his way to a fundraising lunch for U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola at Bethel College in Mishawaka, Ind., Thursday, Feb. 23, 2006. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)
AP - 1 hour, 18 minutes ago

[Stephanie]

12. context is here >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=500782&mesg_id=500782

[brainshrub]

28. Thanks, I saw this earlier today, but I didn't have the context.

I posted it on my blog earlier today, but since I didn't have the context I wasn't sure how to label it. (Was this a photoshop?) Now that I know the source, I've updated the picture to the photographer proper attibution.

See post #26.

[converted_democrat]

3. I have no way of knowing, but when I saw the photo on that other

thread I thought the very same thing..

[gasperc]

5. looks like the finger to me

nice catch, I'm sure the Bushies will play it off as photoshopped or that wasn't Bush sitting in that car on that side

but weeeee know better

no, fuck you, mr president

[XNASA]

7. Not unlike DU's own President BatBoy.

[rniel]

8. Sorry guys

I think it was a pencil.


ha ha ha ha


Don't know if anyone remembers that one from way back.

[ThoughtCriminal]

9. Rear Window?

Blowing it up I either get middle finger or a reflection of a person standing with a shopping bag. Resolution is way too low.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. He gives me the finger every day he get up and draws a breath.

Symbolically of course.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Where's my microscope? I can't see anything. I need a close-up pic.

:(

[ellenfl]

15. me too. eom

[Ovett]

13. more likely thumbs up. n/t

[Name removed]

41. Deleted message

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[Stephanie]

14. I don't see what you're talking about - where?

I can't see a mirror.

[jackstraw45]

16. Duh...typed mirror but meant WINDOW....

Whoops.

[Richard D]

17. With a bit of photoshop enhancement . . .

including increasing contrast, finding edges, and inverting the image, we have a YES.



On edit: Looks like his mouth is open too. Wonder what he's saying to go along with the gesture. Very presidential, no?

[Canuckistanian]

19. Proof positive, my dear fellow

Send that to AP and the UPI.

[Richard D]

22. It would be good to get a picture

at that time from the opposite side of the street to see who he's giving the finger to.

[jackstraw45]

24. I believe it was this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x500692

[wicket]

23. I second that!

:kick:

[jackstraw45]

20. Well done, Richard...

We've got to get this out...MAYBE some media will run with this...

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. OMG...he IS flippin' the bird!

Have you EVER seen anything like this? That rat bastard does think he's king. He doesn't care that we hate him and neither do his supporters. His supporters will LOVE the fact that he flips protesters the finger. He's really is a mental case...a psychotic prez :scared:....a sociopath :scared: he'll do anything!

[leftchick]

30. Excellent Job! And in record time!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Bubbleboy can't take it that people actually HATE HIM!!!

:rofl:

[SmokingJacket]

43. Good work! It certainly isn't the first bird he's flipped us.... nt

[sabra]

49. looks like his sleeves may be rolled up? If so, that's *'s hard werk sig

[Maru Kitteh]

50. Actually I think his mouth is probably open a great deal of the time

I'm willing to bet he had to train himself to keep it closed in front of camera/others. Study the photos of so many of those "morans", many are mouth breathers.

[Marnieworld]

51. Thank you! You rock!

That so proves it. But it wasn't that hard to believe. He's quite fond of the gesture. When he got away with giving the press the finger I knew all hope of a decent media was lost.

[onenote]

56. this doesnt look like anything to me

If that's the best picture, forget it..it doesn't look like anything at all

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

69. Wow! Speaks to what...

...an impulsive child he really is. He's definitely going to nuke Iran.

[Dead_Parrot]

73. No, you have a bullshit

Christ, if we can't stick to reality how can we expect everyone else to? see post 71, ffs.

[cry baby]

18. Hey Jack, I was hoping you would give this a thread!!

I really thought I was going crazy.

[Double T]

21. No, he was giving the protesters the 'hook 'em horns' sign........

I'm sure of IT!!!!

[BushOut06]

25. Can anyone blow that section up and enhance it?

That would make a great sig pic :)

[brainshrub]

26. Here is the image enlarged:

I caught this earler today, but I wasn't sure of the source. Now that I know for sure that IS of Bush's limo today, I'll post this image here and share:



www.brainshrub.com/bush-limo-finger

[leftchick]

32. does he have his mouth open?

probably saying fuck you too! to the people holding fuck bush signs! :rofl:

[Scout1071]

61. OK. I think it's him and I think he is, indeed, flipping off

the protesters.

The reason I think it's authentic is because whenever you see him wave, for instance when coming off AF1, I always notice that his pinky is kind of weird and when he does his "shaky" wave across the lawn to photog's, his pinky is sticking out.

If you look at that pic, his pinky finger is funky and bent away from the rest of his fingers - just like his wave.

[displacedtexan]

27. It's much easier to see in black & white

[Botany]

31. So is bush singing?

"I have got you under my skin
I've got you deep in the heart of me


So deep in my heart
You're nearly a part of me
I've got you under my skin"


Sure looks like the bird to me .....
little rat bastard prick is afraid of his own people

[Harald Ragnarsson]

33. Flipping us off as he drives by in the car WE pay for

Where are some of the brave Praetorians of Caligula's day?

[jackstraw45]

34. On a FUNDRAISING TRIP we also pay for....

Flown in a plane WE PAY FOR...

Using fuel WE PAY for...

[EC]

35. That's about as mature as his daughter sticking out her

tongue...what a family....sooooo elite.....

on edit: At least it's proof of his opinion of us poor folks...

[TroglodyteScholar]

36. Looks to me like a reflection...

of a cloud in the sky...or a glare. Dunno, not buying it.

[jackstraw45]

37. Are you serious? THIS looks like a cloud to you?

[RagingInMiami]

68. It looks like the Virgin Mary to me

[izzybeans]

48. It's definitely a reflection of some kind.

I thought it was a finger as well. I wanted to believe it was cause it fits the psycho. profile. but it just isn't so.

[Maru Kitteh]

53. Um, no it's not. I'm a professional photographer

who's had to eliminate countless glares from glasses, windows, etc for wedding/family photographs.

It's a human hand with a raised finger behind the window. I'm not 100% convinced it's a bird yet though and I'll tell you why, it appears it's at least possible the index finger is pointed outwards instead of being curled back. That being said, I'd give it a 98% we're lookin' at a bird. There has to be a shitload of frustration riding around in that lame duck limo.

edit for clarity, so to speak

[izzybeans]

58. I understand, but his is one F'd up hand

Someone took a chunk out of the wrist and the bottom half of the fingers are nearly twice as long as the top. I want this to be the finger. I really do.

I look at this picture and see different images depending upon the perspective taken. Hand with middle finger is one image I see. I also see two reflections, one of a building and one of something in front of a building obscuring the building. The reason form this perspective it looks like a reflection to me is because there are three layers of images. The final layer would be behind the glass, with the first two reflections.

Then again I'm really not convinced either way.

[Occulus]

63. definitely not a reflection

the reflection would be distorted by the curvature of the window, as are the other reflections on the window.

[alfredo]

64. There are variations to "the bird." One is with the fingers curled into

a fist. Another has the index and ring finger partially extended representing the balls. Eritreans did it with palm up, little, ring, index fingers parallel to the ground and middle finger pointed skyward.

[Maru Kitteh]

76. Perhaps you are looking at the manipulated images

Also, you may not understand how digital cameras work and the effect that motion can sometimes impart on CCD or CMOS when combined with any particular model cameras firmware. Cameras have become very intelligent and a good one will try to extrapolate from the available information what should be on the CMOS when it comes to objects in motion. Usually it does this quite well but I've had to toss a perfectly good photo because suddenly the beautiful bride was inexplicably sporting Jay Leno's chin. Please be assured it is not a reflection but a human hand bearing a white shirt cuff behind a window. We do not know if it is Georgie.

[Scout1071]

62. As I posted somewhere above,

I think * has broken his pinky finger a couple of times because when he does the wave, while walking across the WH lawn for example, I've always noticed that his pinky finger is bent away from his other fingers. So, I don't think that is the index finger, I think that's his pinky.

[Texacrat]

59. Why would he flick off to that side?

n/t

[Sugarcoated]

38. Are you sure it's shrubya?

[jackstraw45]

40. No BUT...if it was a member of his STAFF, they should be fired...

if it was the INDIANA Rep. he was fundraising for, giving the finger to his constituents, well, that would be something.

Dumbya WAS in the car, it was HIS limo, and we know what POS he is.

[Richard D]

46. I'd guess he gets in the limo . . .

. . . on the same side each time. And for sure he'd want a window seat.

[sabra]

39. this is OUR president... what a POS!

[SeattleGirl]

42. Looks like it to me

How dignified. :sarcasm:

[myrna minx]

47. Yep-the man is up to his eyeballs with er, gravitas.

:eyes: Classy.

[FreedomAngel82]

44. It's hard to tell

But if I had to take a wild guess I'd say yes.

[izzybeans]

45. I think it is a reflection of a courthouse in the window or a church

steeple. It is too assymetrical to be a hand and it's kind of distorted, which suggests a reflection.

[brainshrub]

54. Hmmm... it appears that the object is inside the vehicle.

It appears that the object is inside the vehicle.

Having said that, it's not clear enough to be 100% certain and I don't think it's worth much energy investigating it.

So he might have flipped off a few Americans on his way to a fund raiser for a crony. Compared to the contempt he's shown for the rule of law, human rights and the poor... this is nothing.

It merely shows he's a sophomoric little man.

We knew that already.

[Maru Kitteh]

55. Put your glasses back on

How many windows and steeples have shirt sleeves?

As I mentioned upthread, as a professional I can assure you that is a human (barely) hand inside the window. That is not a surface reflection.

[glitch]

52. Poor impulse control - now what is that associated with? Oh yea, PSYCHOTIC

what dignity.

[yodermon]

57. NEVER FORGET this story:

http://jiveturky.livejournal.com/185733.html

The single greatest event of my life.
So I went to protest Dubya today, as he was visiting my humble little burg of East Lampeter, PA.


Adam came over and with my and Matt's help, created two banners. They read:

DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER

and

MORE TREES, LESS BUSH

The action got started off right when we arrived on the scene, and seven or eight teenage guys decided to "re-enact" the prison abuse scandals in Iraq by stripping down to thongs and making a human pyramid, while donning black hoods. The police officers on the scene immediately tackled them and led them out in handcuffs. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in court. Meanwhile, a crazy fortysomething man was asking Sean and Adam if they put their efforts into worshiping Christ. They said, "Yes, we like Jesus. We go to church." The man was befuddled, not expecting that sort of response from two teenage boys. Anyway, chants were formed, and heckling ensued. Adam and I even got filmed by a cameraman screaming "DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!" as we simultaneously shook our copies of 1984 in the air. I don't know if it will actually get used in news footage, but if anyone sees it, please let me know.

It gets so much better.


Sean had to go back to work (he snuck out to join in the fun), so we drove him back to my place where his car was, then me, Adam, and Brendan went to another spot along the highway that we had spied earlier. A friendly Kerry supporter named Mr. Shenk let us use his front yard to display our banners. Now comes the good part. After waiting around for about 45 minutes, the motorcade passed by us again. A few police cars, followed by a van or two, drove by. Then, a Bush/Cheney bus passed, followed by a second one going slower. At the front of this second bus was The W himself, waving cheerily at his supporters on the other side of the highway. Adam, Brendan, and I rose our banner (the More Trees, Less Bush one) and he turned to wave to our side of the road. His smile faded, and he raised his left arm in our direction. And then, George W. Bush, the 43rd president of the United States of America, extended his middle finger.

Read that last sentence again.
I got flipped off by George W. Bush.

So, like, it's nuthin' new.

[Pacifist Patriot]

60. If I remember correctly, he's been caught doing this plenty of times.

Nuthin' new indeed.

[AndyA]

66. How Presidential!

His smile faded, and he raised his left arm in our direction. And then, George W. Bush, the 43rd president of the United States of America, extended his middle finger.

Read that last sentence again.
I got flipped off by George W. Bush.

What an embarrassment this man is. America deserves a human for President, not a monster.

[eppur_se_muova]

65. If he keeps making that gesture, maybe it will freeze like that.

Didn't Babs warn him about that? :evilgrin:

[LibertyorDeath]

67. To those that can't see it you're not alone benito himself has

analyzed it and says "it's just to dark"

[tom_paine]

70. Brownshirts line the streets on the near side

Almost LITERALLY.

Look at the guy's yellow jacket lined up with the cops. It says "South Beach VIPS" Well, VIPS is a quasi-police force, the "civilian deputized and authorized" force created under Kitizen Korps www.citizencorps.gov

http://www.citizencorps.gov/programs/vips.shtm

He appears to be right there with the SS & police line.

Most importantly it answers directly to the executive branch through the DOJ. No pesky local elected officials or sherrifs to get in the way. In every neighborhood, the beefy, blowhard cop wannabe is getting a badge and a whistle and the right to snoop. Give a lot of people just the tiniest bit of sanction/authorization for their own neuroses, and they will run with it.

It is a bad sign, among many bad signs for the Imperial Subjects of Amerika for what is coming in he event of (God Forbid) the next 9-11.

Put this together with the impending formation of the SSS (USSSUD), and things are bad indeed.

[Dead_Parrot]

71. Not this time (sadly).

Here's a blow up: I've cropped the guy in the checked shirt's head into line with the 'finger':



Guys heads are normally around 6" across (ear to ear), so Dimson's hand would have to be at least five inches across to appear that size: I suspect it's just his face, but the resolution so low it's difficult to be certain.

It's also the wrong finger, unless he's into yoga - the 'elbow' is down by the door handle, which would make it his (four inch long) ring finger.

Edit: chickenboy's hands are normal size:


Adapted from here

[Dead_Parrot]

72. Kick...

...before someone makes an arse of themselves.

[GeorgeGist]

74. No quite Dead_Parrot

The guy in the checked shirt is much closer to the camera than the 'hand'. So you need to do trigonometry, not linear math, to estimate the size. Just saying...

[Justice Is Comin]

75. That's a 3 inch

quail. Definitely obvious in the black and white