Bush Backs Off UAE Port Deal ~

[Catrina]

I just heard on the radio that Carl Rove is on Capital Hill telling Congress that Bush is willing to delay the Port sale to the Dubai company.

His 'racist' talking point must not be working ~

I'm looking for a link, but so far haven't found one.

If Carl is backing off, the pressure from the right must be intense ~

Carl didn't have enough time to come up with anything better than an erroneous charge of 'racism' against those who opposed it. Their game is no longer working the way it used to ~

There are only two conclusions to come to regarding this sale,

1) There never was a real threat of terrorism.
2) The Bush administration doesn't care about it.

The press keeps saying that the US Government approved the sale. Who is the government?

Congress didn't know about it, the President didn't know about it, so who does that leave?

Is the Government now made up of 12 Bush appointees (none elected) on the CFIUS? And one of those members, Rumsfeld, signed the approval without reading it, which is why, according to him, he 'only heard about the deal this past weekend!!

[WI_DEM]

1. He always backs off when the base is irate--same with Hariett Maiers

[SpiralHawk]

2. Bush: a freakin flip-flopper

if ever there was one

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. Do I smell a Flip Flop?

I knew something stunk around here.

[Generator]

4. Who is the government indeed?

Paging Ace Hayes...from heaven. (obscure portland oregon reference to the secret government) Somebody bought America and nobody told us.

[Trevelyan]

5. Very good points -- I will use them to the wingers on the neutral site of

AOL Messageboards and maybe Belief.net. The wingers always say they don't care about torture or the murder, even of children, if they are Arab "because they will grow up to be terrorists." There are some non-aligned people who are looking for answers so I try to post the URLs and paragraphs of truthsites.

A year or so ago, someone on Smirking Chimp asked who was REALLY running our government "The Saudis?". I guess that is it. Would like to know who is responsible and who should be charged for this latest treason.

[Catrina]

22. Thanks, I have been talking to rightwingers for four years now, and

finally they are a little shaken ~ although still clinging to a hope that their cult leader will get them out of this.

They have two talking points on this, one is that Dems are 'racist'. I just ignore that and don't even bother to address it. Simply ask them 'So, George Bush was lying about Muslims being a threat? I thought so, which is why I was never worried about it'.

The second talking point I discovered today (apparently from Rush) is that Dubai was not involved with the WTC, but 9/11 happened anyway.

That gives us a fantastic opening to introduce them to who WAS involved with security there that day. Marvin Bush and a Kuwaiti security firm were involved in security at the WTC.

I love the second one. Just say 'thanks for bringing that up. Did you know about the Kuwaity company and Bush family member who were involved that day? This is all the more reason why we must stop this sale, don't you think?' Soon, they will have to drop that one also ~ they are running out of talking points, too many lies, too many questions raised, each time they lie.

We do need to know more about that Kuwaiti Company involved in WTC security on 9/11.

[sarcasmo]

6. Delay doesn't mean kill and then push it through when congress is on

Recess.

[Beetwasher]

7. Yeah, Right, He'll Delay In Order To Bribe, Blackmail and Threaten

the Repubs to go along.

This is great, watch them go ahead w/ this anyway after they strongarm enough Repub congresspeople.

This is gold for the Dems. The Dems need to keep screaming about it.

[blm]

9. I agree - that's the more likely scenario.

.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

Tweety is going to be upset. n/t

[FormerRepublican]

8. BUT the White House says Bush's veto threat still stands.

Rove spinning to kill the story, but he will shuffle the deal through anyway...

[Marie26]

10. CFIUS didn't even know about it

The head of the CFIUS Committee, Tony Snow, claims he didn't know about the deal until he saw it on the news. It's beyond bizarre.

[Catrina]

15. Yes, I read that today. So two of the 12 who SIGNED the approval

didn't know what they were signing?? But, didn't they assure us that the deal was thoroughly investigated to ensure that there was no security threat?

That was done by an 'obscure' security agency that came into being four months ago, and was headed by NEGREPONTE!!

Do we know if Congress or the President (iow, the Government) knew about this either?

This is gold for Democrats. They are tripping over themselves now with the lies ~

'Oh, what webs we start to weave, when first we practice to deceive' ~ :rofl:

[Jane Austin]

20. Tony Snow?

You must mean Treasury Secretary John Snow. :)

[Marie26]

21. Yep.

The Treasury Secretary is the Chairman of the CFIUS Committee. So it's beyond implausible when he claims not to know about this - he approved it.

[froshty1960]

11. Here's a link

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11526718/

[elehhhhna]

16. DON'T GO THERE: Olympics skating spoiler page!

Ouch.

Good for her though.

Darn it that was the only event I was remotely interested in watching.

[Catrina]

19. Too late!! I already went there! My favorite event also. Oh well, thanks

for the link, Froshty ~ so Rove NOW says that there are still some things that need to be worked out:

"There are some regulatory hurdles that this still needs to go through on the British side as well that are going to be concluded next week. There's no requirement that it close...immediately after that," Mr Rove told Fox News.

What a liar he is ~ rather than admit that they tried to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people, he comes up with this.

He needs to be reminded that the WH already said that this had been thoroughly reviewed!!

The Democrats should hammer home the lies now ~ do not accept this ego saving lie. They were caught with their hands in the cookie jar and had no choice but to back down. This is a lie.

[robbedvoter]

12. It'll be done obscurely, in an EO, like the Social Security killing

or the TIA refurbishing. This crowd never lets go of a juicy bone!

[Armstead]

13. Delay? Yeah sure, they can forgo the Big Buck for a month or two

[RagingInMiami]

14. So now he's a hero again to forty percent of Americans

[spanone]

17. Somebody needs to follow the money. This is BIG money.

[Saphire]

18. Oh, this is rich! Just when the Freepers are starting to back the

deal, * backs down...LOLOLOL. Seems the PA is trying to stop the deal, and the freeps are all over it, saying how bad it is that the Port Athority isn't backing the Prez and his deal.

Port Authority: We're suing to stop sale to Dubai firm
Newsday.com ^ | 2/13/2006 | KAREN MATTHEWS


Posted on 02/23/2006 12:30:50 PM PST by ARCADIA


NEW YORK -- The Port Authority said Thursday it will file suit to block a Dubai-based firm from taking over operations at a Port Newark container terminal, saying the federal government has not given them assurances about security issues.


(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...

To: oolatec
Yeah, it is good. The smackdown these folks will receive from the Courts will be illustrative of the fact that this deal is DONE.

10 posted on 02/23/2006 12:36:34 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: jimbo123; OldFriend
Do you believe there are NO national security implications to this deal?
According to everyone who has presented FACTS, and not feelings, there are none.


127 posted on 02/23/2006 1:10:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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[Disturbed]

24. The Neo Facist's timing was off.

Another week of Cheney's "accident" and they might have snuck this under the wire. It is obvious that the Bushbots don't care if their Prez. and his Criminal Junta lies to the Nation. The excuse everything. At 1st they oppossed this Port Sale but now they will fall in line with the lies.

[Marie26]

25. We are very very lucky that the media

somehow got onto this story.

[Catrina]

30. Poor freepers ~ it must be painful to have to wait to be told what to

think and then, have to go back to be told 'forget that, this is what you must think now'.

I know this may not be the end of the Bush administration, but it's piling up and with each new scandal they lose a few more believers ~

A freeper talking about 'facts' is almost funny. She hasn't been keeping track of things, it seems because the 'facts' are what have been changing, almost every day! Such blind faith ~ there's really no hope for them, but their numbers are fewer and fewer ~

[dchill]

23. Great - now ALL this administration's...

security contracts need to be investigated IN THE OPEN. no more illegally negotiated "secret deals."

(Before 911, Marvin Bush worked for a Kuwaiti firm that had the security contract for the World Trade Center. Hmm? Say what?)

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

[Catrina]

26. I just read that in another thread!! Thanks for posting the link here.

Sending it to everyone I know ~ this needs to go to Rush (traitor) Limbaugh, since he used 9/11 to try to defend the Dubai deal today. He claimed that 9/11 happened without the Dubai company, so what's the big deal?

Kuwait, Dubai ~ both extraordinarily rich countries ~

You know, I was just sort of sitting back and watching all this blow up in the faces of the rightwing, and not really all that worried about terrorism. But this information, about Marvin Bush and the Kuwaiti company??? As you said, 'say WHAT'??

Why was this not investigated or brought up at the 9/11 hearings? Whitewash!!

Now I AM seriously worried about this Dubai deal and what the Bush crowd might have had in mind.

Freepers need to see this, since they probably already bought Rush's talking point today ~

Does Congress know all this? We should send it to AAR hosts and to Congress ~

[dchill]

28. Thank YOU...

So many ostriches, so little time. :)

[XOKCowboy]

27. It gives him time to strongarm and rally the troops

KKKarl is really screwing up lately. It's fun to watch but don't expect this lack of "unity" to last for long.

[Kahuna]

29. He has no choice. This was another Harriet Miers idiotic mess.

nt

[Ksec]

31. Typical tactic.

Theyll back off "just long enough to have Congress look at it"

Then theyll dump the deal once the attention is off of it. They do this all the time.

[Joe Fields]

32. I wouldn't say that there never was a real threat of terrorism.

Try telling that to the thousands of families who grieved for their lost loved ones on 9/11. But it was certainly nothing to start a war over. President Clinton had the right idea, which was tactical surgical strikes against terroist cells and trainig camps.

In other words, "You don't use a sledgehammer to kill a few cockroaches."

Going after the Taliban and al-qaeda in Afghanistan was acceptable to me. After that, it all seems like one giant turd.

The world was with us after 9/11. It quickly turned against us. If we had just gone after the taliban and al-qaeda, and demanded intelligence and cooperation from the Saudi's, the world would have stood firmly with us.

Now that he has a huge portion of our country worked up over Muslims and Arabs, he expects us to buy into his new lovefest with the UAE? He can expect in one hand and shit in the other and see which hand fills up the quickest.

Bush is toast. This sealed the deal.

[Catrina]

33. Well, I agree that 9/11 was real ~ thousands died, including one of my

neighbors and another friends whose pregnant daughter died that day. I agree with the rest of what you said also, as far as it being handled the way Clinton handled it.

What I question now, and so do most of those I know here in NY, is the 'official' story ~ I should have made that more clear ~

The Bush administration told us the official story. They refused to have an investigation, something I expected the president to do immediately. Doubts about what we were told began a few months after the tragedy ~ and the 9/11 Commission hearings, which I watched, were thoroughly frustrating ~

And just today, we found out that another wealthy oil country from the ME was involved with security, along with Bush's brother Marvin, on the day 9/11 happened. Now I really am beginning to worry about these foreign governments and countries who are friends of the Bush family, being in charge of anything that is even close to the security of this country.

I hope you're right about Bush being 'toast' ~

[Penndems]

34. He's backing off the deal IN PUBLIC

But in private, they're doing anything and everything they can to shove this deal through, with or without Congressional approval.

This Administration couldn't care less about the will of the people. It's always what's best for the Bush family, their cronies and sycophants.