I started out laughing at Lou Dobbs show but I'm a little depressed now

[liveoaktx]

After watching the Ha Ha Ha America video from the other day. I already knew that America was selling off our assets to other countries-heck, I've looked for items that aren't marked "Made in China" and have a coffee mug with the flag on it... made in China. But the program tonight hit home about how bad it is.

Bush's comments about Protectionism=Bad need to be thrown OUT completely. Heck, YES, we need to be protectionists and quit selling all our assets to other countries, quit giving the rich tax breaks while we owe beaucoup bucks to other countries.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

1. From what I've read . . .

. . . a 25% tariff on this cheap Chinese stuff that has flooded the market would've kept things from going so lop-sided. But it's too late now. Like Springsteen said, "Those jobs are gone, and they ain't never comin' back."

Fuckin' Corporate Scum have sold us down the river.

[rodeodance]

2. Lou has had several good poll questions lately--

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. I think everyone in America

man, woman and child, should come up with five things made in China from our houses and mail them separately to the White House.

What a mess that would be.

[adriennui]

6. great idea

it's easy enough to do.

[Armstead]

4. It really hit home to me the week after 9-11

A gas station down the street started selling little American flags, labeled Proud to be American.

But in letters almost as big was a tag "Made in China."

[Tin Man]

5. Dropping trade barriers willy-nilly is silly

opening our country to competition from countries paying slave wages is insane - we're driving down our national standard of living. Can we honestly expect American workfers to outcompete the exploited masses in China and India? I don't think so...

[otohara]

7. All That Holiday" Junk Sold Everywhere in Massive Quatities

Xmas ornaments, fake Xmas trees, bunnies & eggs for Easter, plastic Turkeys, Mardi Gras, on and on...

I don't think the right-wing Christians much care that all that stuff they fill their homes with on Christmas, and Easter, etc... comes from communist China.

[Harper_is_Bush]

8. The "ha ha ha" video was propaganda, hard to learn anything from that....

As for Lou Dobbs, he's on your side of the fence bashing Bush over trade and the ports deal, but he's a rightwing talking head through and through.
They're eating themselves at the moment, which is great to see.

And rolling back tax cuts for the rich isn't protectionism, it's just smart.

[Mnemosyne]

11. Walk around your house and pick up 5 random objects HiB.

How many are made in Canada or America? Take 20 objects, we'll make it better odds for you.

I am betting less than 3 out of the 20, most likely 1 or 2, unless you have many custom made possessions that you can specifically choose.

Am I right?:bounce: Or won't you look?

Propaganda? I think not.

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. You might be right about the objects in my house....but that

does not mean the "ha ha ha" video wastn't propaganda. Did you watch that vid?

Keep in mind propaganda can contain a few facts.

[Mnemosyne]

18. Propaganda or not, American manufacturing and industry

bit the big one awhile ago and our CEO government is responsible, that is the point. The exactness of their figures doesn't matter.

It hasn't quite hit hard enough, to many yet, exactly how sunk this country is without those jobs.

Ever worked at fast food, waited tables, pumped gas? That's what is left to try to survive and raise families. College degrees mean less and less all the time and cost more. Funding has been cut and is being cut again, leaving education a privilege for the rich.

What I find completely ironic is the fact that when no one has decent jobs there will be no one to buy cheap plastic crap, things will deteriorate further and it will affect even China.

Here in the small city I live in McD's used to hire all the time. Now it's lucky if they hire once or twice, maybe three times a year. That is very bad. People in their forties and fifties hold many of those jobs now. It used to be young people.

And to top it off the morons want to set a lower minimum wage for those jobs claiming only high school kids are doing them. Not anymore.

I wish it had happened overnight. This slow process has made it harder for many to see exactly what has happened.

They will.

I believe we are in the lull before the storm.

How long until the storm?

In hope of peace,
v

[RufusEarl]

9. Screw Lou!

I watched while two Repugs used Clinton's name and Lou just sat there and said nothing. This has all happened on Bush's watch, it really pisses me off when repugs try to connect Clinton.

Nothing is going to change, this will all be old news in 45 days. Same as it ever was!!Same as it ever was!!

[Mnemosyne]

12. Now I have to find myself, in another part of the world.

How did I get here?

I don't watch much television, but Dobbs sounds like a putz. I read this about him all the time, letting the Dems take hard hits and keeping his mouth shut. Is he on the fair and balanced channel? I watch cspan and yell at the House and Senate. Mute works well when repukes spew.

[liveoaktx]

15. Here's how I think- I don't ever watch Fox, it's crap... but sometimes

I'm willing to watch CNN in order to edit out just the parts I want. I don't always agree with Lou Dobbs, just as most of us here probably don't agree with each other about everything, but on this issue I am firm.

I can recall huge PR stunts for "Buy American" in the past, where there was a phobia about buying, say, automobiles that came from another country instead of Detroit. Even Walmart, before, touted the fact that they sold American goods-not true anymore.

[Mnemosyne]

19. I remember the "Buy American" campaign from Wally World

when they first stormed the scene. I thought it was so cool that they were promoting American products, until I shopped there and looked at the labels. Liars. There were more American made products then, but there were still a much higher percentage of foreign made. I think maybe Sam Walton wanted to try, it just never worked. Profits were too small to suit them.

I love what you do liveoaktx! I watch footage at your site all the time. Thank you so much for all you do! It matters! You watch all that shit so I don't have to and I really appreciate it more than I could ever tell you. :patriot: :applause:

I don't understand how others can stand to watch television all the time though. I'd have an ulcer and would be :puke:

It turns out they were right. Everyone should have bought American. Too bad American corporations became so greedy and priced their products out of the average citizens reach.

What a mess.

I still have hope though. It's about all that's left. After November we'll see if that is left.

In hope of peace,
v

[lovuian]

14. I have been watching Lou Dobbs for over the past 5 years and

he is a TRUE AMERICAN and has been on this Bush whitehouse selling all our assets and letting low wage immigrants take our middle class jobs

with the help of our own government!!!

These ilegal immigrants don't pay taxes here...

[New Government]

17. I have to agree

Do I agree with him on everything? No. But it would be a cold day in hell when anybody saw things the same way I do about everything. I appreciate what he's done the last 4 years or so. He's been an eye-opener for a lot of people on corporate and governmental corruption and so many other things. Lou's a good guy in my book.

[New Government]

16. You are SO wrong!

This is the post that finally has caused me to register here at DU and join the discussion rather than just read.

I am convinced: the GOVERNMENT is corrupt. Period. Yes, the Repubs are corrupt, but I am more and more certain that it is the GOVERNMENT that is corrupt - all of them.

In your post you said you were mad that Dobbs and some others were bringing Clinton into it and you say it really pisses you off. Well...read this:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/60414c4c-a95e-11da-a64b-0000779e2340.html

If you took the time to read the above, you would see that Clinton had phone discussions with UAE about the ports deal. You would also read that Bill was paid $300,000.00 for ONE speech to a UAE government meeting in 2002. Hillary? I don't know. UAE put over a quarter of a million dollars worth of food on her and Bill's kitchen table. Maybe her fight against this deal is all opportunity. Hell, I don't know who to trust anymore. But I know this - we are in dire need of a new government in Washington, DC. It is a culture of corruption all over. I don't know that party means a damn thing anymore. No matter the issue, Terrorism, Health Care, ....Hell, all of them.......they are all up for sale.

It's time to rid Washington of BUSH and maybe the whole lot of them! Just like the old Soviet Union, we may see a whole government crumble, right here in the USA, in our lifetime.

[Mnemosyne]

10. I know liveoaktx, while I pretty much buy almost nothing

that I absolutely do not have to anymore, I pick things up that I already have. Almost nothing comes from here.

I really like TallahasseeGrannie's idea of sending some of the crap to the WH, but maybe to our Senators and CCritters also. Maybe they would take a hint if we flood the morons. I know the USPS, UPS and FEDEX workers would suffer, but doesn't the mail have to be delivered? :evilgrin:

I sure don't know the answer. Does this country even have many textile mills anymore? Are most all the steel and iron foundries/forges gone? Do we have any way left here to process raw material to create what we need to start producing our own products again? Do we have the raw materials left or the means to acquire or grow them? :grr:

Almost went off on a rant there, sorry. You know what I'm asking liveoaktx. I wonder if anyone has the answers we are seeking.

Or is it just too late? I wish we at least had an answer to that. Then we would at least be sure which way to plan. When you are poor, it's hard to do more than simply survive, much less plan for disaster without end. :shrug:

Until we do have a definitive answer that says "too late", I guess we just keep doing what we do and hope it is enough. It matters that we are doing something, no matter how large or small, it is all enough for each one as our ability allows. We just have to hope that my enough and your enough and his and hers, will all add up to one big Enough!:applause:

In hope of peace,:hug:
v